Poll: Should we boycott EA Products?

[JKain]

I've been doing a personal boycott for a while now. I'm not exactly advertizing it, but I don't intend to buy anything from them for a long, long time. No worries, though, since I'm not really interested in most of their current games anyway.

Same here. EA-free since 2006
And they keep on doing things that make feel good about not supporting them with my money.
OT:and Dr.Pepper happens to be my favorite. Things in common FTW, i guess

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Origin's EULA reads like every other EULA ever. I have no idea why people are taking offense now. You're much, much too late. If you wanted to change anything, you should have protested ToS agreements when they were first introduced.

That's pretty much what I think on the whole matter.

And honestly, boycott? If you don't like it then don't get it, and boycotting this is not gonna do much of anything. It's far too late for it to make much of a difference now, so all we can do now is suck it up and deal with it.

Also, captcha: htsirit her.....you are a dirty dirty captcha.

Its not like every other one out there. :/
You dont give them the right to access EVERY bit of data on your computer.
They can literally sit there, and watch every site you go to. Every message you send. Every picture you have stored.

Every program you access, and every piece of information it stores is all free game for them to monitor. "you agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware."

Congrats. They now know everything on your computer, and what you do with it. Your right, boycotting wont do anything. :/ We have to take this straight to the company.

For me, I doing a 'wait and see' approach to Origins. I'm not gonna use it until I know everything about and it has been around for a good while. Maybe EA will get rid of the part where Origins looks at everything in your computer and I do think that's really stupid for them to have that part anyways.

I still think it's too little, too late. It appears EA is not gonna get rid of Origins any time soon, and unless some miracle happens and EA ditches it I think it will be around for a while.

However, I think going straight to the company and voice outrage is a lot more productive then boycotting. What I think is going to happen is people will use it anyways when they want to play Battlefield 3, find out what happens, and EA gets enough bad press for this and drop that part of the ToS.

Thats the thing. 90% of the people who use it aren't actually going to read the ToS, and will never learn about it.
We have to stop this before it gets to that stage.
if we let months go by, thats an uncountable amount of information being collected from anyone using the service.

And that's incredibly unfortunate, which is why going directly to EA is more effective, in my humble opinion, than just not buying something since we have to wait until those come out and voice our opinion. Do it now and save the trouble of fighting them later when there might not be a chance to do so.

However, I wonder how many people will not care or bother to listen and do it anyways, I'm not being pessimistic, I'm just wondering if people are going to listen and care enough to actually do something about it.

 

[kouriichi]

Origin's EULA reads like every other EULA ever. I have no idea why people are taking offense now. You're much, much too late. If you wanted to change anything, you should have protested ToS agreements when they were first introduced.

That's pretty much what I think on the whole matter.

And honestly, boycott? If you don't like it then don't get it, and boycotting this is not gonna do much of anything. It's far too late for it to make much of a difference now, so all we can do now is suck it up and deal with it.

Also, captcha: htsirit her.....you are a dirty dirty captcha.

Its not like every other one out there. :/
You dont give them the right to access EVERY bit of data on your computer.
They can literally sit there, and watch every site you go to. Every message you send. Every picture you have stored.

Every program you access, and every piece of information it stores is all free game for them to monitor. "you agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware."

Congrats. They now know everything on your computer, and what you do with it. Your right, boycotting wont do anything. :/ We have to take this straight to the company.

For me, I doing a 'wait and see' approach to Origins. I'm not gonna use it until I know everything about and it has been around for a good while. Maybe EA will get rid of the part where Origins looks at everything in your computer and I do think that's really stupid for them to have that part anyways.

I still think it's too little, too late. It appears EA is not gonna get rid of Origins any time soon, and unless some miracle happens and EA ditches it I think it will be around for a while.

However, I think going straight to the company and voice outrage is a lot more productive then boycotting. What I think is going to happen is people will use it anyways when they want to play Battlefield 3, find out what happens, and EA gets enough bad press for this and drop that part of the ToS.

Thats the thing. 90% of the people who use it aren't actually going to read the ToS, and will never learn about it.
We have to stop this before it gets to that stage.
if we let months go by, thats an uncountable amount of information being collected from anyone using the service.

And that's incredibly unfortunate, which is why going directly to EA is more effective, in my humble opinion, than just not buying something since we have to wait until those come out and voice our opinion. Do it now and save the trouble of fighting them later when there might not be a chance to do so.

However, I wonder how many people will not care or bother to listen and do it anyways, I'm not being pessimistic, I'm just wondering if people are going to listen and care enough to actually do something about it.

Its the, "If its not on the news, its not important", syndrome.
People dont listen unless someone yells it at them over the TV.
We need to take it not to EA, but to the news. Taking it to EA wont solve the problem. They might quietly remove it, and it will be like it never happened.

We have to take it to the News networks. We have to show that things like this are not ok. Why do you think no one has done it before? Because its something that can break a company in two if people ever notice.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

For me, I doing a 'wait and see' approach to Origins. I'm not gonna use it until I know everything about and it has been around for a good while. Maybe EA will get rid of the part where Origins looks at everything in your computer and I do think that's really stupid for them to have that part anyways.

I still think it's too little, too late. It appears EA is not gonna get rid of Origins any time soon, and unless some miracle happens and EA ditches it I think it will be around for a while.

However, I think going straight to the company and voice outrage is a lot more productive then boycotting. What I think is going to happen is people will use it anyways when they want to play Battlefield 3, find out what happens, and EA gets enough bad press for this and drop that part of the ToS.

it wont take a miracle, itl take a year (maybe two)'s worth of sales data to realise the money they are spending on it isnt giving them a worthwhile return, even with exclusives like bf3 and tor, its only going to be the people wanting just those, whereas valves big bucks come from its stature as a good reseller.

Probably, but then again no one has seen what Origins can do when it's finally out in the wild, I remember Steam being a pile of shit before it is what it is today-I'm playing devil's advocate here so don't think I'm supporting them.

They've invested a lot of time and effort to build that so they will probably keep adding features and making it closer to what Steam is with it BEING Steam, but I'm hoping that they realize it's all a lost cause and they just drop it all together, that would be nice.

 

[GraveeKing]

I'll boycott them anytime, I remember a thread saying by boycotting we should just download and seed their games over pirate-torrent sites, the few games I have or want from EA I already got - so SURE. Easy as pie.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Origin's EULA reads like every other EULA ever. I have no idea why people are taking offense now. You're much, much too late. If you wanted to change anything, you should have protested ToS agreements when they were first introduced.

That's pretty much what I think on the whole matter.

And honestly, boycott? If you don't like it then don't get it, and boycotting this is not gonna do much of anything. It's far too late for it to make much of a difference now, so all we can do now is suck it up and deal with it.

Also, captcha: htsirit her.....you are a dirty dirty captcha.

Its not like every other one out there. :/
You dont give them the right to access EVERY bit of data on your computer.
They can literally sit there, and watch every site you go to. Every message you send. Every picture you have stored.

Every program you access, and every piece of information it stores is all free game for them to monitor. "you agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware."

Congrats. They now know everything on your computer, and what you do with it. Your right, boycotting wont do anything. :/ We have to take this straight to the company.

For me, I doing a 'wait and see' approach to Origins. I'm not gonna use it until I know everything about and it has been around for a good while. Maybe EA will get rid of the part where Origins looks at everything in your computer and I do think that's really stupid for them to have that part anyways.

I still think it's too little, too late. It appears EA is not gonna get rid of Origins any time soon, and unless some miracle happens and EA ditches it I think it will be around for a while.

However, I think going straight to the company and voice outrage is a lot more productive then boycotting. What I think is going to happen is people will use it anyways when they want to play Battlefield 3, find out what happens, and EA gets enough bad press for this and drop that part of the ToS.

Thats the thing. 90% of the people who use it aren't actually going to read the ToS, and will never learn about it.
We have to stop this before it gets to that stage.
if we let months go by, thats an uncountable amount of information being collected from anyone using the service.

And that's incredibly unfortunate, which is why going directly to EA is more effective, in my humble opinion, than just not buying something since we have to wait until those come out and voice our opinion. Do it now and save the trouble of fighting them later when there might not be a chance to do so.

However, I wonder how many people will not care or bother to listen and do it anyways, I'm not being pessimistic, I'm just wondering if people are going to listen and care enough to actually do something about it.

Its the, "If its not on the news, its not important", syndrome.
People dont listen unless someone yells it at them over the TV.
We need to take it not to EA, but to the news. Taking it to EA wont solve the problem. They might quietly remove it, and it will be like it never happened.

We have to take it to the News networks. We have to show that things like this are not ok. Why do you think no one has done it before? Because its something that can break a company in two if people ever notice.

Well, I was thinking if that didn't then just go straight to the news seeing as news stations love hearing about invasions of privacy when it involves the internet. Bad press is bad press and if we do that then we force EA's hand and possibly make them drop it all together-which I doubt since they've probably invested a lot of time and money on it- or just drop that part of it.

Maybe those people will listen and broadcast this further than just gaming sites.

 

[kouriichi]

Origin's EULA reads like every other EULA ever. I have no idea why people are taking offense now. You're much, much too late. If you wanted to change anything, you should have protested ToS agreements when they were first introduced.

That's pretty much what I think on the whole matter.

And honestly, boycott? If you don't like it then don't get it, and boycotting this is not gonna do much of anything. It's far too late for it to make much of a difference now, so all we can do now is suck it up and deal with it.

Also, captcha: htsirit her.....you are a dirty dirty captcha.

Its not like every other one out there. :/
You dont give them the right to access EVERY bit of data on your computer.
They can literally sit there, and watch every site you go to. Every message you send. Every picture you have stored.

Every program you access, and every piece of information it stores is all free game for them to monitor. "you agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware."

Congrats. They now know everything on your computer, and what you do with it. Your right, boycotting wont do anything. :/ We have to take this straight to the company.

For me, I doing a 'wait and see' approach to Origins. I'm not gonna use it until I know everything about and it has been around for a good while. Maybe EA will get rid of the part where Origins looks at everything in your computer and I do think that's really stupid for them to have that part anyways.

I still think it's too little, too late. It appears EA is not gonna get rid of Origins any time soon, and unless some miracle happens and EA ditches it I think it will be around for a while.

However, I think going straight to the company and voice outrage is a lot more productive then boycotting. What I think is going to happen is people will use it anyways when they want to play Battlefield 3, find out what happens, and EA gets enough bad press for this and drop that part of the ToS.

Thats the thing. 90% of the people who use it aren't actually going to read the ToS, and will never learn about it.
We have to stop this before it gets to that stage.
if we let months go by, thats an uncountable amount of information being collected from anyone using the service.

And that's incredibly unfortunate, which is why going directly to EA is more effective, in my humble opinion, than just not buying something since we have to wait until those come out and voice our opinion. Do it now and save the trouble of fighting them later when there might not be a chance to do so.

However, I wonder how many people will not care or bother to listen and do it anyways, I'm not being pessimistic, I'm just wondering if people are going to listen and care enough to actually do something about it.

Its the, "If its not on the news, its not important", syndrome.
People dont listen unless someone yells it at them over the TV.
We need to take it not to EA, but to the news. Taking it to EA wont solve the problem. They might quietly remove it, and it will be like it never happened.

We have to take it to the News networks. We have to show that things like this are not ok. Why do you think no one has done it before? Because its something that can break a company in two if people ever notice.

Well, I was thinking if that didn't then just go straight to the news seeing as news stations love hearing about invasions of privacy when it involves the internet. Bad press is bad press and if we do that then we force EA's hand and possibly make them drop it all together-which I doubt since they've probably invested a lot of time and money on it- or just drop that part of it.

Maybe those people will listen and broadcast this further than just gaming sites.

Thats the idea to it. We have to get companies to see that we arent going to sit by and let them dictate how things are.

While id hate to say it, and i never thought i would, Fox News would be doing something good for the American people. If the headline were, "EA can legally steal your private information", i can guarantee you EA would change the ToS before we could blink, and send a formal apology to everyone who signed up for Origin.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Origin's EULA reads like every other EULA ever. I have no idea why people are taking offense now. You're much, much too late. If you wanted to change anything, you should have protested ToS agreements when they were first introduced.

That's pretty much what I think on the whole matter.

And honestly, boycott? If you don't like it then don't get it, and boycotting this is not gonna do much of anything. It's far too late for it to make much of a difference now, so all we can do now is suck it up and deal with it.

Also, captcha: htsirit her.....you are a dirty dirty captcha.

Its not like every other one out there. :/
You dont give them the right to access EVERY bit of data on your computer.
They can literally sit there, and watch every site you go to. Every message you send. Every picture you have stored.

Every program you access, and every piece of information it stores is all free game for them to monitor. "you agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware."

Congrats. They now know everything on your computer, and what you do with it. Your right, boycotting wont do anything. :/ We have to take this straight to the company.

For me, I doing a 'wait and see' approach to Origins. I'm not gonna use it until I know everything about and it has been around for a good while. Maybe EA will get rid of the part where Origins looks at everything in your computer and I do think that's really stupid for them to have that part anyways.

I still think it's too little, too late. It appears EA is not gonna get rid of Origins any time soon, and unless some miracle happens and EA ditches it I think it will be around for a while.

However, I think going straight to the company and voice outrage is a lot more productive then boycotting. What I think is going to happen is people will use it anyways when they want to play Battlefield 3, find out what happens, and EA gets enough bad press for this and drop that part of the ToS.

Thats the thing. 90% of the people who use it aren't actually going to read the ToS, and will never learn about it.
We have to stop this before it gets to that stage.
if we let months go by, thats an uncountable amount of information being collected from anyone using the service.

And that's incredibly unfortunate, which is why going directly to EA is more effective, in my humble opinion, than just not buying something since we have to wait until those come out and voice our opinion. Do it now and save the trouble of fighting them later when there might not be a chance to do so.

However, I wonder how many people will not care or bother to listen and do it anyways, I'm not being pessimistic, I'm just wondering if people are going to listen and care enough to actually do something about it.

Its the, "If its not on the news, its not important", syndrome.
People dont listen unless someone yells it at them over the TV.
We need to take it not to EA, but to the news. Taking it to EA wont solve the problem. They might quietly remove it, and it will be like it never happened.

We have to take it to the News networks. We have to show that things like this are not ok. Why do you think no one has done it before? Because its something that can break a company in two if people ever notice.

Well, I was thinking if that didn't then just go straight to the news seeing as news stations love hearing about invasions of privacy when it involves the internet. Bad press is bad press and if we do that then we force EA's hand and possibly make them drop it all together-which I doubt since they've probably invested a lot of time and money on it- or just drop that part of it.

Maybe those people will listen and broadcast this further than just gaming sites.

Thats the idea to it. We have to get companies to see that we arent going to sit by and let them dictate how things are.

While id hate to say it, and i never thought i would, Fox News would be doing something good for the American people. If the headline were, "EA can legally steal your private information", i can guarantee you EA would change the ToS before we could blink, and send a formal apology to everyone who signed up for Origin.

I was gonna suggest them but I didn't want to say the 'F' word around these parts, very dangerous that is.

Oh I can just imagine the massive shit storm EA would go through if someone like Fox got a hold of them and they would go after them too, maybe that's what we have to do. That would be interesting.

 

[Nimcha]

Sorry. I just find it hilarious that people with Facebook accounts, writing on internet forums and who knows where else suddenly feel like their privacy is being threatened because one more company will have access to data other companies already have.

Valve has your info, FB has your info, Escapist has some of your info, plenty research companies that scan the posts on forums have your info... You don't really have any privacy to start with any more to have it really breached.

No, you dont get it. They have your open info.

"Congrats, they know my name and where i live".
Thats not what EA is doing. By signing up, you give them the right to monitor your computer. Every program you have on it. Every site you visit. Nearly EVERY piece of info ON YOUR COMPUTER is there's to access.

This isnt, "oh, your phone number, and your middle name, and your area code". This is literally EVERYTHING. "operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware". This includes the information stored for said software, because its part of it. Do you watch anything dirty on the internet? Congrats, EA now knows your every kink, and they have the right to distribute it as they like.

Its not like FB or The Escapist. Your giving them full reign on your private information. Laugh as they monitor everything you do from here on out. Its one step away from having a man standing over your shoulder while you FAP to rule 34.

And even if that were true, what's the problem? It's not like they can actually do anything with that information.

Yes they can. Did you even read it? xD
You literally give them the right to distribute it AS THEY PLEASE.
They can do whatever they want as long as you click "i agree", because you give them the right to.

No not really. They aren't allowed to sell it or use it to send me spam. Or anything like that. A simple TOS doesn't override federal laws.

"EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you"

They can basically give away everything but your name. This includes usernames and E-mail addresses.

Federal laws prohibit doing it WITHOUT a persons consent. By clicking "I agree", your literally handing over your consent to EA. As i said before, "You literally give them the right to distribute it AS THEY PLEASE".

As they please within restrictions, yes. And not personally identifying me. They'll just show ads tailored to what they gathered from me in stead of just random ads. That's all they can do, and again, not identifying me by person.

So, big fuss over nothing.

 

[kouriichi]

Sorry. I just find it hilarious that people with Facebook accounts, writing on internet forums and who knows where else suddenly feel like their privacy is being threatened because one more company will have access to data other companies already have.

Valve has your info, FB has your info, Escapist has some of your info, plenty research companies that scan the posts on forums have your info... You don't really have any privacy to start with any more to have it really breached.

No, you dont get it. They have your open info.

"Congrats, they know my name and where i live".
Thats not what EA is doing. By signing up, you give them the right to monitor your computer. Every program you have on it. Every site you visit. Nearly EVERY piece of info ON YOUR COMPUTER is there's to access.

This isnt, "oh, your phone number, and your middle name, and your area code". This is literally EVERYTHING. "operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware". This includes the information stored for said software, because its part of it. Do you watch anything dirty on the internet? Congrats, EA now knows your every kink, and they have the right to distribute it as they like.

Its not like FB or The Escapist. Your giving them full reign on your private information. Laugh as they monitor everything you do from here on out. Its one step away from having a man standing over your shoulder while you FAP to rule 34.

And even if that were true, what's the problem? It's not like they can actually do anything with that information.

Yes they can. Did you even read it? xD
You literally give them the right to distribute it AS THEY PLEASE.
They can do whatever they want as long as you click "i agree", because you give them the right to.

No not really. They aren't allowed to sell it or use it to send me spam. Or anything like that. A simple TOS doesn't override federal laws.

"EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you"

They can basically give away everything but your name. This includes usernames and E-mail addresses.

Federal laws prohibit doing it WITHOUT a persons consent. By clicking "I agree", your literally handing over your consent to EA. As i said before, "You literally give them the right to distribute it AS THEY PLEASE".

As they please within restrictions, yes. And not personally identifying me. They'll just show ads tailored to what they gathered from me in stead of just random ads. That's all they can do, and again, not identifying me by person.

So, big fuss over nothing.

They can give someone your E-mail address, usernames, phone numbers, and home address, along with any sites youve been on, any programs you use, and the username of anyone on your friends list.

Just because they arnt saying, "Heres John Doe", doesnt mean the spam companies they give your info to cant find it out on their own.
But spam isnt the reason this is bad. They are LEGALLY looking at all of your private information. Its the same as having someone stand over your shoulder, and right down everything you do.
Congratulations! EA knows what you Fap to, and when you fap to it!

Its the fact that they CAN violate our privacy, without 90% of their users ever knowing.

 

[Farther than stars]

EA's never actually given me any trouble personally, so I don't see why I shouldn't return that favour. It's a really simple choice actually, if you don't want Origin, don't get it. If you want to play Battlefield 3, you're going to have to put up with it. If I would be boycotting EA, it would be for different reasons that this. Moreover, I wouldn't want to risk a delay of Mass Effect 3, which I'd kind of like to see here as soon as possible, you know?
Don't get me wrong, you can have your gripes as much as you like; I have no problem with that, but there's one final thing. I challenge your statement that most console gamers are underage. I'd say most of them are adults already. What, especially with the average gamer being in his/her 30s and with more people over 50 playing games than kids under 18.

 

[Farther than stars]

Because we gamers are hyprocrites. I don't have a problem with Origins ( YET ), because i'm a Console gamer. But i do expect this shit to come to consoles in the futur , and when that day comes, i will rest on my old gaming library ( about 200 console games , I'm prepared for the gaming apocalypse ) ). But most gamers just like to complain , but then they will still get the games EA produce because, well , they like the series. So even thought they voice against it , they won't deprive themselves of games they like out of principle.

I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, what's all the fuss about anyway? So what if Origin does monitor all your programs? They're only going to use that info to try to make your gaming experience as good as possible. It's not like they're trying to affect you personally by going after all of your super-secret CIA business. >.> I feel people are just making too much of a fuss about this on principle, because they're too sensitive about their privacy. (And you especially cannot compare it to dictatorial oppression [that's just insensitive].)

 

[DustyDrB]

Though I won't personally be participating in this boycott, I support people who wish to make a statement with their wallets. I don't understand people who get so mad at those who do this though.

"But what about [company X] who had similar policies?": People have to draw the line somewhere. It happens all the time in life. Even if this turns out to not be a big deal, people have a point where they say, "No. I will not support this". And that's completely their call to make.

"But you'll buy it anyway!": Oh, so you're clairvoyant? Seriously, how is this statement helpful at all? You just make an ass of yourself. Yeah, we've all seen that image of the Modern Warfare 2 boycott group on Steam. But that example doesn't foreshadow this one. That boycott was trivial, plain and simple. I think most people who "participated" realized that. This one involves a company asking you to forfeit too much privacy in order to play games. Also, the major upcoming games associated with this boycott will have some serious competition. So what if you miss out on Battlefield 3 when you have six other great games coming out over that month-long period? The presence of alternatives is a major game-changer.

 

[LordRoyal]

I don't boycott shit games simply because they serve no interest in me. The only game that I am remotely interested in from EA right now is Mass Effect 3

Uh, it's up to you. The TOA specifically says that if you dont want your stuff to be monitored, don't install Origin.

You know that limits the consumer significantly. "Hmm should I install this program that is essentially Spyware, but I can my game that I legally purchased on it... Hmm"

Doesn't matter. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. Your choices are to get Origin to get the game(s) or get it on a console. If neither of those sounds good to you, then you don't get to play the game. It's really not that complicated.

OT: Origin's EULA reads like every other EULA ever. I have no idea why people are taking offense now. You're much, much too late. If you wanted to change anything, you should have protested ToS agreements when they were first introduced.

Now you know why people choose Steam, at least they dont sell your information without your consent.

I don't boycott shit games simply because they serve no interest in me. The only game that I am remotely interested in from EA right now is Mass Effect 3

Uh, it's up to you. The TOA specifically says that if you dont want your stuff to be monitored, don't install Origin.

You know that limits the consumer significantly. "Hmm should I install this program that is essentially Spyware, but I can my game that I legally purchased on it... Hmm"

You know steam has a very similar clause, and so does apple, and so does blizzard if you want to be eligible to enter into their betas. Unless you want to be a dirty stinking hypocrite you best start boycotting all of those.

Steam asks you before you want to submit any information, usually in place of a survey or a specific Steam beta.

EA specifically doesn't give you a choice with what you wish to do. Even if you legally purchased a product off Origin if you don't want some spyware on your computer you can't do anything about it.

 

[LordRoyal]

Double post, damn

 

[mental_looney]

I don't buy pc games while I say fine fine for people who want to make a stand, these kind of boycotts may never have as big an influence as they hope. Steam sucked at the start maybe it will just take them some time to get it sorted.

I'm going to keep buying the games I want anyway.

 

[I'mANinja]

Sure, as soon as DICE and Bioware find new publishers... I will not boycott a Publisher if the Developer did a good job!

 

[Mxrz]

brb, giving EA money.

I think at some point people started over estimating their own particular influence as a consumer.

 

[DementedSheep]

Well it certainly makes me far less likely to buy any of their products tho i'm not really boycotting them. I don?t want their fucking spyware on my computer and if that means I miss out on a few games I want, so be it.

 

[headbanger97]

of course we should not buy any of their products, they have never released a single game that I would consider worth buying, so I would just continue to do what I do normally