Lictor Face said:
It looks good. But it kind of annoys me that a great deal of the old fanbase seems to be throwing in the towel for the series over the Les Miserables setting and new Garret voice actor ( lol )
And it seems a great deal of the new fanbase is only going "lol people are dumb for only ever not liking the new voice actor". Works both ways, you know.
Lictor Face said:
To have a remake of Thief should be every fan's dream
You're not serious, right?
Lictor Face said:
Its every fan's dream to have their favoured franchise rebooted.
Wait -
you are? Well, hello, I'm a fan of Thief and other things, and I'm here to deliver the following message: fuck reboots. Yeah. I really really dislike them, probably not all, but saying it's "my dream" for a work to be rebooted is so just damn wrong. No, I don't want reboots, if it was up to me, there wouldn't be any reboots ever, in my opinion, reboots are what break a series.
Lictor Face said:
If a Neverwinter Nights 3 was made, you'd bet that people around the world will be squealing.
Erm...why would that be a reboot again? "Sequel", you're thinking of "sequel" and somehow equated that to a reboot.
Lictor Face said:
The Madman said:
-No Hammerites
-No Pagans
We don't know for certain. And I am pretty sure none of the old Thief game trailers showed either faction to a great degree. Its probably is still in the air at the moment.
Or, as was show before, that's wrong. Also, the game is coming out in approximately half a year or so - you're telling me
they still don't know what's going to be in it?
Lictor Face said:
The Madman said:
Imo, the latest incarnation seems a lot more steam punk. The bow in particular, and the steam industry background setting. Like a industrial Les Miserables.
Nope, it's less. Thief was reeking of steampunk, especially Thief 2.
Lictor Face said:
The Madman said:
-Increased focus on 'realistic' setting
Is that so much of a bad thing? Not like the Les Miserables setting is commonly done anyway.
Yeah, if it's going to be called Thief, why...is it something different? Surely, if I want to play more Thief I'd want...surprise-
Thief! If I wanted to play something different, I wouldn't play Thief. The concept isn't that hard, I think, why you require the explanation is beyond me.
Lictor Face said:
The Madman said:
-Game rewards killing with points
Not sure why everyone is getting their jimmies in a twist. It will most likely work similar to how experience worked in Far Cry 3, and I don't recall anyone complaining about how it affected gameplay. Or it could be simply an alternative currency system that unlocks higher tiers of equipment or approaches ( Say, masquerading as a servant for a limited time, or sewer infiltration ). But then I don't know enough about it to be certain either.
The fact that you cannot comprehend why that is bad...speaks a lot. OK, something that's been hammerred time and time again in Thief games is that good thieves DON'T KILL. Play on the highest difficulty and YOU LOSE IF YOU KILL ANYBODY. Rewards are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of the very heart of the series. Also, at the core was exploration and doing what you can with the tools you can find. A bit like MacGyver.
Lictor Face said:
The Madman said:
-No jumping except in context sensitive areas
Honestly I have no idea how that is bad. Context sensitive areas makes jumping easier and less frustrating, I'm thinking assasin's creed style. Or mirror's edge.
Except these allow you to jump at any time? Also - exploration and stuff I mentioned above
Lictor Face said:
Oh and for the record.
Thief is a reboot. You must dismiss the notion that it, for some reason, must honor and hold dear all the principles of what LGS did. That's total (blankety blank blank).
Thief is not obligated in any way to cater to the small minority of Die-hard fans. Quite the contrary,. it is obligated to break from what is expected. It is expected and obligated to deviate from everything the first 3 games were about. It is expected and obligated to throw out the rule book.
Wait, so you're telling me that Thief was rebooted to NOT get the old fans back but...because reasons. no, really, how does it work? Surely, it's brand recognition they are going for, that's why they have the old stuff in, how exactly would it make sense to NOT go with the brand? Also, how is a supposed new entry in an old franchise
obliged to be different? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a
new franchise the one obliged to not be like the old one? I really need a good explanation how you think it works.