Poll: The next fail in gaming

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"Next fail" is bit missleading when adding Nintendo to the poll. Wii U, in my opinion, did ALREADY fail, so people should look for the future and try to figure out, how Sony and Microsoft are going to fuck it up like they did with motion controller casualization.

 

[Pat8u]

Sony failed with their current console. As much as I hope their next one will be better, I don't wish for bad games no one does, but the only thing that even kept the PS3 afloat was the massive third party library of games, and the PS3 and PS4 simple doesn't/wont have that with current gen graphics and the like. I love their indie selection on PSN, but if I had to guess I would say I think the PS4 is going to fail.

waait how did sony fail with the ps3 the ps3 is a great machine
haters gonna hate

OT:
Microsoft needs to stop focusing on the kinect if they stop they will not fail but if they don't they will fail

 

[Pat8u]

Sony failed with their current console. As much as I hope their next one will be better, I don't wish for bad games no one does, but the only thing that even kept the PS3 afloat was the massive third party library of games, and the PS3 and PS4 simple doesn't/wont have that with current gen graphics and the like. I love their indie selection on PSN, but if I had to guess I would say I think the PS4 is going to fail.

waait how did sony fail with the ps3 the ps3 is a great machine
haters gonna hate

OT:
Microsoft needs to stop focusing on the kinect if they stop they will not fail but if they don't they will fail

Periods, mother fucker, do you use them!?

Great machine or not (by the way I love the object and factually supported argument there) the numbers don't lie. The PS3 is at the bottom of the poles because it lacked what carried the PS2: third party support. With current gen consoles the PS3 doesn't have the massive library the PS2 had because not all third party developers can afford current gen graphics, which is why most of them moved over to the Wii. The downsides of upping the graphics bar.

Since the PS4 is probably only going to get more convoluted, they are going to lose even more third party support, and I predict that is what's going to make them fail again. That and they made the Vita AT&T exclusive, which killed that system before he even got to the price point.

oh You meant ps2 when you said "that even kept the PS3 afloat was the massive third party library of games" your typo confused me

 

[DanielDeFig]

actually the next fail in gamin is going to be when apple decides to make a game console

Win.

But truly scary thought. Ipod Apps are apparently doing much better than any of the consoles. If they try to cash in on that by making a gaming-centric apple product that can handle more complex games, but still have the ease of creating and distributing games with the App Store. Who knows? They might be able to compete with "The Big Three".

 

[codisthebest]

Sony failed with their current console. As much as I hope their next one will be better, I don't wish for bad games no one does, but the only thing that even kept the PS3 afloat was the massive third party library of games, and the PS3 and PS4 simple doesn't/wont have that with current gen graphics and the like. I love their indie selection on PSN, but if I had to guess I would say I think the PS4 is going to fail.

waait how did sony fail with the ps3 the ps3 is a great machine
haters gonna hate

OT:
Microsoft needs to stop focusing on the kinect if they stop they will not fail but if they don't they will fail

Periods, mother fucker, do you use them!?

Great machine or not (by the way I love the object and factually supported argument there) the numbers don't lie. The PS3 is at the bottom of the poles because it lacked what carried the PS2: third party support. With current gen consoles the PS3 doesn't have the massive library the PS2 had because not all third party developers can afford current gen graphics, which is why most of them moved over to the Wii. The downsides of upping the graphics bar.

Since the PS4 is probably only going to get more convoluted, they are going to lose even more third party support, and I predict that is what's going to make them fail again. That and they made the Vita AT&T exclusive, which killed that system before he even got to the price point.

i hope you realise for the past 2 years the ps3 has outsold the xbox 360. and also the ps3 has better exlusives than the xbox 360 and wii. also what are you talking about the wii has no third party games

 

[Dexiro]

Sony failed with their current console. As much as I hope their next one will be better, I don't wish for bad games no one does, but the only thing that even kept the PS3 afloat was the massive third party library of games, and the PS3 and PS4 simple doesn't/wont have that with current gen graphics and the like. I love their indie selection on PSN, but if I had to guess I would say I think the PS4 is going to fail.

Huh? I'm not sure what counts as first/third party but Sony has drummed up tons of support and their system has tons of great games. I fail to see why they'd suddenly lose all of that support with the PS4.

Not to mention the Xbox relied on third party games even more than the PS3.

 

[Tourmeta]

I don't see any big fails in the horizon.

Sony and Microsoft might go to much Nintendo style and incorporate Move/Kinect into the core of their next consoles though, that would suck, i like it as an addition only.

 

[Krantos]

Waaayyyy too early to tell. Sony and Microsoft haven't even talked about new consoles yet.


...Then again, they're going to have to try really hard to have a worse name than Wii U.

Seriously, what does that even mean?

IDK, the whole thing seems backwards to me. Sony and Microsoft release motion controls way too late to make any significant challenge to the Wii; Nintendo rolls out an HD console years after Sony and Microsoft, so their pre-existing fanbase has already jumped ship.

I kind of the think the Move, Kinect, and Wii U (hee, hee) are a collective fail.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

Sony failed with their current console. As much as I hope their next one will be better, I don't wish for bad games no one does, but the only thing that even kept the PS3 afloat was the massive third party library of games, and the PS3 and PS4 simple doesn't/wont have that with current gen graphics and the like. I love their indie selection on PSN, but if I had to guess I would say I think the PS4 is going to fail.

The PS3 has more first party games than the 360 does. The ONLY 360 game that I want to play is Tales of Vesperia (it's on the PS3 in Japan though). Microsoft just has Halo, Gears, and Fable; and Gears and Fable could go multiplatform. Sony has Uncharted, Resistance, Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, Killzone, LittleBigPlanet, MLB The Show, The Last Guardian, inFamous, Wipeout, Warhawk/Starhawk, God of War, Gran Turismo, MotorStorm, and SOCOM. Sony owns all those licenses, none of those series are going to other consoles as Microsoft could easily lose Gears and Fable. I've probably missed a few Microsoft first party series but Microsoft nor Nintendo can compete with Sony in the number of quality first party games. Plus, in my opinion, Sony has the best online games this gen with Metal Gear Online (best online shooter), MAG (best online FPS), and Warhawk (easy to pick up and play while being extremely deep). Plus, there's some Sony games like Heavenly Sword (better than GoW3 IMO) and Heavy Rain that probably won't be a series but they are great games. Sony has some great third party exclusives as well with MGS4, Valkyria Chronicles, and Yakuza.

 

[BENZOOKA]

I don't believe Nintendo could win the next round as well.

 

[Ogargd]

Sony, because they PS and the PS2 were so good they were always due for 2 console fails in a row =P (I'm not including that motion thingy either, i've had a mind blank about it's name though.)

 

[Shio]

If any of these are so much failures, why are they THE BIG THREE? Seriously, all three are appreciated by many in the masses.

Failure doesn't necessarily mean low sales numbers.

Considering they are businesses, selling well and making money is the antithesis of failure.

 

[Arqus_Zed]

I don't know which console will fail, I just hope there will be a fail at all this time.

Yeah, you heard me, I want a console to fail. Why? Because when all consoles are almost equal, none of them are really great. For the first time in a console generation, I have all the available consoles - and I got a bone to pick with each one of them!

It used to be easy, you know, 4th gen? SNES, of course. 5th gen? PlayStation, a bit more debatable, but in the end, definitely PlayStation. 6th gen? PlayStation 2, big time. 7th gen? Euhm... Sony has forsaken its JRPG audience, Microsoft has forsaken its hardware and Nintendo has forsaken its soul.

So yeah, I don't know WHO will fail - my guess is nobody, actually - but I do hope SOMEONE will.

 

[TheLoneSeeker]

Depends whether we're talking financial fail or actual product fail.

As far as the actual products go, I suspect this next generation will actually be pretty good. There's been some pretty big missteps this generation (RROD, SD graphics/poor motion control Wii, fat PS3) and the manufacturers have had a long time to listen to consumer feedback. Hopefully that will mean more solid and reliable products in the next generation.

Financially I reckon Sony and Nintendo might be in trouble. Sony because they have a track record of high production costs, not to mention any long-term financial consequences of the PSN breach. This could result in either a high price-point or poor quality product.

Nintendo could be in pretty deep poop if they don't get consumers and investors excited by the Wii U. Putting the Wii brand on it was a mistake, because as soon as you mention the Wii to the average consumer now, they automatically think of Wii remotes, motion control and family gaming. It would have been a lot easier to get people excited and eager to hand over their money with a new branding, and maybe an aesthetic shift away from the clean white console/controller to set it apart from what they have now.

Just my thoughts.

 

[Raykuza]

Nintendo is the wrong answer. They have both the casual and hardcore markets on lock. The casual folks like silly gimmicks, and when that market dries up, they always have Zelda and friends in their back pocket. They can't lose at this point. Making games has been their only job since 1974. They do it pretty damn well.

 

[SpaceCop]

Depends how you define success. Profits? Market share? Innovation? Artistry? Versatility? Technical prowess? Happy customers? Flaxen hair and prodigious bosoms? Wait, what are we talking about?

The Wii U will be a cardboard box containing nothing but a skipping rope, a dozen trivial pursuit cards, and a bill for every Nintendo game you currently own. It will make more money than God and Oprah combined.

Buying the Playstation 4 will entail remortgaging your house, upgrading your movie collection to Bluray 2.0:Extreme!!!, and signing your children over to a life of menial labour in Kevin Butler's Epic-Awesome Slave Mines.

And Microsoft will... Uhhh... Shit. Quick, what's funny about Microsoft?!

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

MAG (best online FPS)

I agreed with everything you said except the bolded bit. You must be out of your damn mind, boy. xD

I played the MAG beta/demo for about a month and it was the best online FPS I've played this gen. I like my shooters old-school with a health bar, no 1 button nade tossing (you should have to cycle from you gun to a nade to throw it), no moving spawns, FPS leaning, teamwork, etc. The only thing MAG doesn't have is FPS leaning, and almost every FPS nowadays has the opposite of what I just listed and that is why MAG is my favorite online FPS. I never got around to buying MAG because I like Metal Gear Online better (and it has FPS leaning and it's a TPS) and I still play it weekly.

Exclusive games are great for gamers, but gamers are not longer the majority when it comes to sales. Video games are a business, and to survive companies need to cater to the causal crowd just as much as the hardcore gamers. Compare the sales of Uncharted 2 [http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/28733/uncharted-2-among-thieves/] vs the sales for Wii Play [http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/2666/wii-play/]. Uncharted had more in opening weeks, but Wii Play has more sales overall. Way more.

Video Games are a business, and money makes the business world go 'round.

I don't care if Wii Play sold more than Uncharted 2, I care that I want to play Uncharted 2 whereas I don't want to play Wii Play. Sony has more exclusives that I like, which is the number 1 reason I bought a PS3. Uncharted and other games sell well enough to have sequels so they are turning profits.

 

[Hatchet90]

PC gaming, oh wait... that's already happened.

 

[Srs bzns]

actually the next fail in gamin is going to be when apple decides to make a game console

Search "Apple Bandai Pippin".

 

[C95J]

I have never been a fan of Nintendo really. We have a Wii in the house, which I have maybe used once or twice, on the day we got it a few years ago. I also don't like the look of the new console they are bringing out, and I hope Microsoft and Sony don't steer their next consoles in that direction as well.