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Don Savik said:
We all like boobs. Its science. But as much as we like boobs, gamers are far too stingy and jaded to play a bad game just because boobs. We critique the ever loving shit out of video games that we like and don't like, and to think you can fool us with a pair of tits is just silly. If we know its a bad game, good tits aren't going to do anything. But the thing is, if its a good game, good tits aren't going to do anything either! Games aren't good because of tits, games are good....and maybe have tits. See what I'm getting at?

Confusing myself here.....lol
This is absolutely correct. I'm not a fan of sports games or fighting games, so DOA and jiggle physics aren't going to make me buy it. I like what I like. Now I like boobs as much as the next heterosexual male, but when I want to play a game I want a fun challenge, not cheap titillation. If I want boobs I will go find boobs. I have a wife and the internet. Boobs are not hard to find. Good games on the other hand take a bit of work.

Moonlight Butterfly said:
I'm female so it just makes me roll my eyes. Imagine loving a hobby where everything was geared towards gay men and you will understand how uncomfortable women can be made to feel sometimes.

The worst thing is when awesome characters like Lara Croft are reduced to a pair of boobs by the media. It's kind of tragic.

There's a difference between looking attractive and looking like an underwear model. Personally I love female character designs of Diablo 3. The female barbarian is even muscular!
The gaming industry and gamers often wonder why there aren't more, and more outspoken, female gamers. Your second sentence would be a wonderful starting point for marketing and design teams to think about.

I understand the idea that sex is supposed to sell, but--as has been said over and over--when marketing goes straight for the "WE HAVE TITS IN OUR GAME" it makes me wonder if they have any actual fun in their game. And really when I look across the media landscape and see all the women in the same butt out, twisted spine to show boobs pose I groan... and not in a sexually frustrated way. I'm bored of this pose. http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/04/hey-everyone-stop-taking-this-picture-no-i-mean-it

Yes, girls are pretty, but they are also more than that. Show me a strong female character and I will find that more enticing than a woman whose obviously being posed by a guy trying to sell something to another guy.
 

Exius Xavarus

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DustyDrB said:
It's more of a deterrent for me. I assume your game sucks if you have to use sex to sell it. I'm not really so certain [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmQqpPwxfoA&t=55] about "sex sells" for most things. Maybe for...lingerie or cologne or things like that, where the intent is to be attractive. But for games? It just comes across as desperate and pathetic. When I see some Beauty from the Uncanny Valley, it's actually very unsexy. And it also makes me a bit angry that they think they'll bring me in with that type of marketing.

Sex in general actually just makes me uncomfortable in games, like if I walked into my room and an animatronic band was going at it.

Why is there an animatronic band in my room? I dunno...

But that marketing didn't work on me when I was younger because my parents bought my games, and I didn't want mom to have to buy Boobs McGee's Backyard Wrestling '98. It doesn't work on me now because it's just too obviously pandering.
This essentially sums up my thoughts on the matter. If your game is good, you shouldn't need to glorify a pair of boobs or an ass in order to sell it. Like Dusty here, it's hard not to feel like the game sucks if sex is what they need in order to sell it.

Now honestly, I can't say that sex in games bothers me, though. If it's a part of the game, then it's a part of the game. If handled well and handled maturely, I think sex can help make a game better. I don't think it should be a selling point, however. Even as a teen, I bought games based upon how much fun I thought I'd have, rather than how many ridiculously proportioned women in skimpy clothes were on the cover/in the game.
 

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LilithSlave said:
viranimus said:
thousands of years of evolution and genetic hard wiring is incredibly unrealistic.
[citation needed]

I mean come on. I know our brains are big, but just how much room for sexual instinct do you think they have?
Freud would have us believe quite a lot, actually. :p
 

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I recall reading a study on this once (don't remember where though, sorry,) and it found sex doesn't really sell all that well. The problem is that it distracts from the product. You might remember the woman or man, but you likely won't remember the product. This might not be the case for box art though, since you could be making your decision right then and there and don't have time to forget, so all it might really has to do is get your attention.
 

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archvile93 said:
I recall reading a study on this once (don't remember where though, sorry,) and it found sex doesn't really sell all that well. The problem is that it distracts from the product. You might remember the woman or man, but you likely won't remember the product. This might not be the case for box art though, since you could be making your decision right then and there and don't have time to forget, so all it might really has to do is get your attention.
And really in hindsight I should have put that as one of the poll options..."No, but it can definitely grab my attention." as that seems to be the majority of the response that people have been talking about. I'll go ahead and edit it in, but I think it might be too late at this point. :p
 

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I don't need boobs on a box when I have my own. There's nothing wrong with showing off boobs, but in the context that they're used in a lot of games gets pretty lame.
 

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To be honest, I grew to like her so much that other similar artwork doesn't really bother me anymore.
 

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Nasrin said:

To be honest, I grew to like her so much that other similar artwork doesn't really bother me anymore.
Great, now I'm pining for EQ again.

WTB SOW PLZ.
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
Nasrin said:

To be honest, I grew to like her so much that other similar artwork doesn't really bother me anymore.
Great, now I'm pining for EQ again.

WTB SOW PLZ.
Okay, that'll be 10gp.

I DON'T WORK FOR FREE!
 

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viranimus said:
Look, like it or not, sex sells.
I really hate this argument. Just because sex sells doesn't mean other things won't. Having enough options to attract a diverse group of people is what sells. Give us some super slutty outfits. Give us some realistic badass outfits. Give us some cool and elegant outfits.

I'm still waiting to play a muscle bound man that wears a golden codpiece, pink high heels and beats monsters to death with a giant purple phallus (ie sword).
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
Nasrin said:

To be honest, I grew to like her so much that other similar artwork doesn't really bother me anymore.
Great, now I'm pining for EQ again.

WTB SOW PLZ.
Are you going to be scratching the back of your neck and twitching all over with the return of your EverCrack withdrawal? ;3
 

BloatedGuppy

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Nasrin said:
Okay, that'll be 10gp.

I DON'T WORK FOR FREE!
10gp is a bargain! I remember paying platinum for SOW at times. It got so bad I gave up my Monk for a Druid.

Well, that and the time the boat to Kunark clipped over me and dragged me back to the Butcherblock mountains, costing me a 30 minute round trip.

RJ 17 said:
Are you going to be scratching the back of your neck and twitching all over with the return of your EverCrack withdrawal? ;3
I can't get enough of that sweet, sweet skinner box. I'd totally play classic EQ again, just for the nostalgia. Then I'd sit down for 20 minutes staring into my spellbook to regain mana, come to my senses, and swiftly uninstall it and throw the disc in the bin.
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
RJ 17 said:
Are you going to be scratching the back of your neck and twitching all over with the return of your EverCrack withdrawal? ;3
I can't get enough of that sweet, sweet skinner box. I'd totally play classic EQ again, just for the nostalgia. Then I'd sit down for 20 minutes staring into my spellbook to regain mana, come to my senses, and swiftly uninstall it and throw the disc in the bin.
Pfffft, yeah, and then two day's later you'd get a wild look in your eyes and go dumpster-diving to get that sweet, sweet nectar back again. :p
 

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RJ 17 said:
Pfffft, yeah, and then two day's later you'd get a wild look in your eyes and go dumpster-diving to get that sweet, sweet nectar back again. :p
Maybe. I admit nothing.
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
Nasrin said:
Okay, that'll be 10gp.

I DON'T WORK FOR FREE!
10gp is a bargain! I remember paying platinum for SOW at times. It got so bad I gave up my Monk for a Druid.

Well, that and the time the boat to Kunark clipped over me and dragged me back to the Butcherblock mountains, costing me a 30 minute round trip.

RJ 17 said:
Are you going to be scratching the back of your neck and twitching all over with the return of your EverCrack withdrawal? ;3
I can't get enough of that sweet, sweet skinner box. I'd totally play classic EQ again, just for the nostalgia. Then I'd sit down for 20 minutes staring into my spellbook to regain mana, come to my senses, and swiftly uninstall it and throw the disc in the bin.
I realized my PC was shit when Kunark came out. It would take so long for me to zone into the ocean that the boat would depart and i would pop in the middle of the water. That was fun...

I was really excited when they introduced the teleporters, but at the same time it ended up making the world feel so small.
 

Zipa

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It makes me instantly think well this game is likely going to be shit since they are having to use tits to try to sell it.
 

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Zipa said:
It makes me instantly think well this game is likely going to be shit since they are having to use tits to try to sell it.
Which is really too bad. I did my first instance yesterday and had a blast. I haven't had that much fun in a group since early WoW.
 

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Nasrin said:
I realized my PC was shit when Kunark came out. It would take so long for me to zone into the ocean that the boat would depart and i would pop in the middle of the water. That was fun...

I was really excited when they introduced the teleporters, but at the same time it ended up making the world feel so small.
Yeah...it's always such a fine line to walk between exorcizing the tedium of travel and keeping the world feeling large and mysterious. No world has ever felt as enormous and threatening as EQ...not even close. But then, I'd NEVER want to go back to spending half an hour on a boat, either.
 

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ExiusXavarus said:
Now honestly, I can't say that sex in games bothers me, though. If it's a part of the game, then it's a part of the game. If handled well and handled maturely, I think sex can help make a game better. I don't think it should be a selling point, however. Even as a teen, I bought games based upon how much fun I thought I'd have, rather than how many ridiculously proportioned women in skimpy clothes were on the cover/in the game.
Oh, I'm not saying sex shouldn't be in the game because it just has no place in the medium. I'm just saying it bothers me because it just looks so awkward. The animations are always terrible.