Ah but define harm? Obviously physically harming someone, or taking something away that belongs to them could be counted as harm. By the logic above this means walking up to someone and screaming expletive insults at their face isn't 'harm'. Yes, many people are mature enough to not be offended by this and good on you to those people. BUT there are many people who might become quite distressed at verbal taunts and insults and even emotionally harmed.duncants said:the line is drawn at the point of causing harm to others.(it is not right now but I think it should be) If someone murdered my kid, I had a child before and not so much now, so i have been done harm. Someone calls me a dirty ****** (which has happened before) I shrug it of and walk away, no harm done.Jewrean said:Yeah it is an opinion. But some people honestly think that murdering children and cannibalizing their brains is a good thing and think that anyone against that is just voicing 'an opinion'. Where is the line drawn?InfiniteSingularity said:New laws are giving Victorian police in Australia to give people $240 on the spot for swearing. What do you think of this?
Personally I think it's a violation of free speech - we should be allowed to say what we want to say. There are laws prohibiting offensive language, but I don't think swearing is offensive. It's not directed at a particular ethnic or religious or any division of humanity, it is only universally offensive. I personally think that if people find something offensive, like swearing, it's their own business, and the law shouldn't intervene.
"Swearing is bad" is an opinion. And I know this is true because I disagree with it; hence, it is an opinion and not fact. You cannot make and enforce a law which is based on an OPINION - that is bias. That is unbalanced, and that is unjust.
Is it so hard to believe that some people find swear words offensive? I mean some obnoxious people walk up to others and remind them they shouldn't be smoking (yes this is retarded I agree).
If you get right down to it, people who aren't offended by these things and claim it is their right to be a total ass in public are often only thinking of themselves. It's the same kind of mentality that denounces others for when they claim too much violence and sex is on TV. What about the children? Are you fine with your child standing right next to some idiot in the street screaming F*** at the top of his lungs? Then you get home and your kid says it. Sure the kid is going to hear the word eventually but as a parent you might want to put what this person is doing into context or you might believe that limiting exposure to the word might lessen its use.
My mates a cop and he wanders the streets of Melbourne (Victoria). No doubt he will be informed of this new law (according to an above comment it isn't new, which means he should already know). But guess what? Like many Australian cops (who swear just like everybody else) most will take a laid-back approach. It is only in extreme cases like the one listed above that you would probably ever hear of this law being enforced.
IMO this thread only has a legitimate reason to exist IF someone stubs their toe and says "Ouch shit that hurt" and gets fined hundreds of dollars.