It's not that clear cut, but I do agree the attack was not needed and excessive.Fulax said:Israel are occupying the Palestinian's land. Any military action they take is not, as they claim, self-defence, it is an act of oppression.
So no, it was certainly not justified.
And yet they bombed an Iraqi reactor to stop them getting them.Glefistus said:they have nukes(illegally, yet for some reason the U.S. doesn't think of them on the same level as bad Korea) and during the war of Yom Kippur proved they were willing to use them.
I don't think this compares very well.nekolux said:I do not believe the extreme way in which they forced their ways into gaza was justified. However the palestinians have been shelling isreali towns with mortars on a daily basis. Do you think that is justified? If you live in seattle, and your canadian neighbours started shelling you daily, i doubt the US would have waited as long as isreal did to retaliate
They only really threatened the use of nukes in yom kippur to force the US to support them though, I mean they managed to kick the ass of the arab forces but the soviet union was replenishing all the lost arab forces. Oh and isreals were basically allied with the US, if soviet union took over the US will have no influence in the area as the arab countries were pro soviet.Glefistus said:Well, you are after all FROM Israel, I would think you are biased.
And the poster some posts above is correct, Israel is the nation that never should have been, and I honestly think it;s a shame they weren't destroyed when they first came to be, because now when they are inevitably attacked, they have nukes(illegally, yet for some reason the U.S. doesn't think of them on the same level as bad Korea) and during the war of Yom Kippur proved they were willing to use them.
This is a serious thread, and I resent you dumbing it down.Rolling Thunder said:Duck and Cover, Duck and fucking Cover!
*Dives into a foxhole*
Its not that, people are not siding with Palestinian what they are doing is saying what Israel did was wrong, which is was. Does that make what Palestinian did correct? No, both sides are bad neather has the high ground.nyaman said:I simply don't understand why people ever side with the Palestinians on this one.
Ahhh details ;-) The fact still is that while a lot of things they did were inexcusable, you have to look at some of the other factors from the Isreali point of view.Specter_ said:I don't think this compares very well.nekolux said:I do not believe the extreme way in which they forced their ways into gaza was justified. However the palestinians have been shelling isreali towns with mortars on a daily basis. Do you think that is justified? If you live in seattle, and your canadian neighbours started shelling you daily, i doubt the US would have waited as long as isreal did to retaliate
More like "If you live in Seattle, the US government has annexed Canada and moved every Canadian to Vancouver or Montreal while occupying everything else and your canadian neighbours started shelling you daily, i doubt the US would have waited as long as isreal did to retaliate"
Which is why they probably will move against Iran if the US doesn't bring their program to a halt first.Glefistus said:Well, if you had the only nukes in a region you would go to lengths to ensure it remains that way.lostclause said:And yet they bombed an Iraqi reactor to stop them getting them.Glefistus said:they have nukes(illegally, yet for some reason the U.S. doesn't think of them on the same level as bad Korea) and during the war of Yom Kippur proved they were willing to use them.
Yes, because the Jews were never terrorists. The Stern gang, the Irgun, the Lehi, the assassination of Lord Myone (sp? British ambassador the eygpt). Learn some history, neither side is white in this case. Terrorist simply denotes who doesn't have an official army.nyaman said:Israel has attempted to live peacefully with the Palestinians, but with every attempt they make, they are just thwarted by another suicide bombing or terrorist attack.
And despite 2000 years of living in Palestine, the Jews don't recognise their right to call it home. Neither side is fair to the other.Despite at least 2 generations of living in Israel, the Palestinians still don't believe that they have a right to call it home. I simply don't understand why people ever side with the Palestinians on this one.