Zhukov said:
The show finally got to that bit, eh?
I'm just thankful I won't have to listen to the illiterate screen beans prattling on about, "OMG, Joffrey is soooo evil, #roastjoffrey lololol!"
Lord and master, teach me how to read tomes of arcane lettering, so that I may rise from the rank of screen bean and read a book series that before the TV show was reasonably obscure!
Furthermore, screen bean, is that even vaguely offensive to anyone? Help me out here folks, I'm not even sure what the fuck a screen bean is.
Asclepion said:
A_suspicious_cabbage said:
Dueling Joffrey again would be a culmination of both of their arcs up to this point. We get a much more direct narrative link- Joffrey suffers for his cruelty by the blade of someone he fought years ago and lashed out against. He would be just as responsible, but we would also see how his opponent has changed. It would be a parallel battle, the stakes far more dire.
Joffrey being poisoned may certainly be a catalyst, but it comes so suddenly that we are left without buildup and dramatic tension that him meeting Arya again would have given us.
I havent read the books, but it would feel far to cliche, and GoT doesn't seem to be into that, it pulls the rug out from under you then strangles you with it.
Furthermore, the idea of a mirror duel usually has the purpose of showing how much the protagonist has grown or improved, the rematch by necessity would be because the Hero lost the first time.
Arya already mopped the floor with Joffrey once, who is afterall, a massive coward, almost completely incapable of fighting in military campaigns or single combat, as demonstrated by the Battle of the Blackwater; where he shit his pants and ran off to his mother, or single combat, where he had his arse kicked by an 11 year old girl. At this point, Arya has already killed several people, has improved her swordplay somewhat, has great big swinging bollocks compared to Joffrey and would've effortlessly cut Joffrey down without breaking a sweat, were they to meet again. Arya stabbing that dude through the throat last episode thematically served the same purpose a duel with Joffrey would've done.
It's not like Luke and Vader, where Vader clearly had the upper hand in the first fight, heck vader still had a bit of an upper hand in the second fight. But either way they where still epic battles, with both combatants being highly skilled. You wouldn't get that with Arya vs Joffrey, she would've just effortlessly dodged some feeble attempt at sword play and stabbed him in the throat, jobs a goodun and they all went home for tea and crumpets.
I felt the tension between Tyrion and Joffrey was absoloutely palpable myself, I was even expecting Sansa to snap and randomly stab him at the wedding. And like someone else said, it's thematically apt that he die of poison in such...a gruesome fashion, for being such a venomous person.
OT: The only thing is, is the new villians are clearly supposed to be the Boltons, but y'know what? I fucking like Ramsay Bolton, he's fucking insane, but he pulls his evil off with such a comical, gleeful deliciousness that I enjoy every scene he's in. "Oh no, Pork Sausage, you think I'm some sort of savage?" Maybe him and The Joker could team up in some sort of mayhem rampage tag team duo. I'm glad Simon from Misfits got some more work, he could do well from this.