Poll: what causes more fights

[DreamKing]

Militant Stupidity is the cause of most wars and conflicts.

 

[hiandhappy]

race has,does,and always will be one of the major points for fights.

 

[Mistah Kurtz]

You lefties need to stop acting as if religious people are the devil.

Meh not really the devil more like his minions or something. Part about the devil is actually pretty ironic since anti-religious people don't really believe in the devil

I didn't even notice I was using irony. Thank you for pointing it out to me and everyone else.

 

[imperialwar]

Fear.
Hate.
Desire.

Everything else is just a screen for these base emotions in regards to conflict and war.

 

[PurpleRain]

Here's another for religion. Not about today, but the Crusades, Inquisition, Witch Burnings, shat on a few people's days. But remove religion and we'd have other things to fight about.

We hit each other with clubs and rocks when we were first getting into the swing of things and we're not going to stop until we... well, stop.

 

[Copter400]

Im talking to you Darth Mobius

Wait, WHAT? What the hell does that even mean?

I think he was insulting your honour, good sir.

I don't know. I'm looking at the options there, and just when I've thought I've found the major one, another one pops up pointing out how it caused human suffering. Rather depressing.

Sexuality has caused the least wars by far, aside from that whole 'Helen of Troy' debacle.

 

[PurpleRain]

Im talking to you Darth Mobius

Wait, WHAT? What the hell does that even mean?

I think he was insulting your honour, good sir.

Ohh, someone made a threat against the President. As honerable president I say we fight him. And it's not even off topic to this thread.

 

[Copter400]

Im talking to you Darth Mobius

Wait, WHAT? What the hell does that even mean?

I think he was insulting your honour, good sir.

Ohh, someone made a threat against the President. As honerable president I say we fight him. And it's not even off topic to this thread.

Shit, your right. Quick, add 'Forum Squabbles' to the poll options!

 

[mrblackett]

The answer is resources. Religion is used as leverage to gain popular support amongst the citizens but the true motivation is always the same. The chap in power wants the other chap's stuff.

Simple, innit.

 

[Unknower]

I guess people here have mediocre knowledge of history. I blame their education system for it. What next, the reason WWI started was because one guy was shot? Haha, haha, ha... you didn't think that was the reason, right?

Money, resources and power, those are the reasons. Religion is just one tool for politicians to manipulate people. Hell, ever wondered why Martin Luther's teachings were so popular? Because people liked it? Hell no, kings just noticed a great opportunity to gain more power and money from the Catholic Church.

Crusades? Only the firstborn in the family inherited the father's property. This left the other sons with nothing. Then comes a chance to pillage and make a fortune in other land. Woohoo, answer to all your problems.

Inquisitions and witch trials were just by fanatics, which almost all groups have. Though I guess opportunists used it to get rid of their rivals.

 

[Dance The Revolution]

I think it's money that causes most war. As much as I hates me some theists, I can't allow myself to be so naive as to believe that people generally act on ideals rather than greed.

Think about it. What is the one thing we get out of wars? We get territory, power, and resources which pretty much translate directly into money. The Romans built their empire not through religious desires, but through ambition for power and wealth. The Mongols didn't have a priest exhorting them to rape and pillage, but they just wanted something to you know, rape and pillage. Why did the Spanish exterminate the Mesoamericans? Religion was only a front for that and they knew it. They just wanted gold.

The American Revolution and Civil War were ignited due to differing opinions on how money should be made and distributed. In the former, the colonists wanted economic independence and in the latter, the South wanted cheap labor.

While political differences do incite some wars (WWI for example), those ideologies are driven by the quest for power which in modern times is quantified in money. Why did Hitler want a new Reich? Because the German economy had been raped after WWI and war seemed like a great way to get the people pumped up. Sure there were some bits about the Jews and Commies but remember why he hated them, they were a threat to the people's wealth.

The United States didn't have to get involved in either World War, but I am of the opinion that the banking establishments were directly responsible for US involvement. Face it, there are plenty of chances for profiteering in war. For instance: The United States government is forced to borrow funding from the Federal Reserve. This is done at an interest rate, thus netting the semi-private bank a profit. In wars, greater and greater resources are required to fund military campaigns, therefore producing greater profit.

Now, take a look at the current conflict in Iraq. While they may or may not have possessed WMDs at the time of the invasion, it was a pre-emptive strike. This wasn't done for the idealistic reasons of "spreading democracy", no it was at best an attempt to prevent damage to US property and at worst just another excuse for war profiteering.

Don't get me wrong, I can't stand organized religion, but it is the will to power that motivates people's worst actions. Sure, there's some bearded man with a Koran plotting my death right now, but I think that you could placate him should you just thrust a pile of money in his direction.

I think this the first I agreed with you on a subject. Greed is the main cause of war.

 

[Dance The Revolution]

Why is money up there instead of greed?

 

[Lazzi]

I noticed that list doesnt have "people" or "xenophobia". I would say those are the cuases of msot fights/conflicts.

 

[Calobi]

I noticed that list doesnt have "people" or "xenophobia". I would say those are the cuases of msot fights/conflicts.

I believe that both of those would be covered by "Race."

 

[Fronken]

well, according to most responses to the threads it seems you were thinking of War, not Fights, there's a MAJOR difference.

When it comes to war i'd say Religion cause its the biggest reason for wars so far.

When it comes to fights i'd blame alcohol combined with women, like stated above, they do really turn us into cavemen, and if some other guy gets between us and a women, we usually beat them.

 

[Mr. Payne]

At least three of the choices are horribly intertwined as it stands. to separate them would practically dissolve all major conflicts, with a few logical exceptions.

 

[Nagamasa_Azai]

i think were all bandy-ing about with semantics, since religion is, and always has been, a method to give people happiness in the face of mortality, and all conflict from it superfluous and self defeating.

Besides, everyone knows that the greatest cause of conflict is a game of monopoly, the only known invention in the history of mankind that is 100% garunteed to cause a conflict whenever/wherever its implemented

But if i had to pick from the list provided, id say money, solely for the fact that it has rightly been deemed the root of all evil. That, and its the only thing everyone willuniversally fight over. Isnt the human condition great XD

 

[Lazzi]

I noticed that list doesnt have "people" or "xenophobia". I would say those are the cuases of msot fights/conflicts.

I believe that both of those would be covered by "Race."

Not really, Race and xenophobia are different things. Race is usally genetic xenophobia is the fear of out side peopel and or just ideas. A perfect example would be be taking a white city slicker and putting him in a red neck town.

and besides all of these "cuases" can all coexist and be fine, the issue is when you put xenophobia into the mix (with the exception of money and peopel you love). teh fact that peopel are different will mean that there will always be friction with in the human race.

 

[kinch]

Since the original topic is "fights" and not just "wars", I'm going to throw out the obvious example of stupidity. For a prime example, just look in a few threads around here... lots of 'fights' starting, because both sides (or arguers) are stupid.

Oh, and as above, greed, money, resources, politics, religion, they're all tied together in a nasty little bundle of human suffering. Go humankind!!!

 

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