Poll: what's worse,beating up a girl, or getting beat up by a girl?
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Haven't you heard that "Not every woman is a lady"? A "lady" would never attack someone. Hell, in the time these codes existed it was considered improper for police to investigate spousal and child abuse. How chivalrous were these people? I also really don't get the distinction people are making between "subduing" and punching people.icyneesan said:
Shouldn't self defense and reasonable retaliation be the sort of the treatment everyone gets?
Beating up a girl, if one tries to start shit, you should be more than strong enough to hold her away and restrain her instead of "beating her".
Ok..I am the first to admit that I have a temper. I once punched a guy out because he had the audacity to hit my best friend in front of me...wasn't standing for it. Any guy lays hands on me will feel it...I fight dirty.
True story: went away for the weekend with friends. The cabins we stayed at weren't what we had reserved. After seeing the godawful arrangements, we decided to go and ask for our money back...we were leaving. Of the four of us, I was the shortest, but I was pissed. When asked why one of the guys didn't step up, J stated that when I'm riled, he was scared of me. The man is 6'5 to my 5'4 and he's built like a linebacker. Go figure.
Like people have said...it all depends on context.
True story: went away for the weekend with friends. The cabins we stayed at weren't what we had reserved. After seeing the godawful arrangements, we decided to go and ask for our money back...we were leaving. Of the four of us, I was the shortest, but I was pissed. When asked why one of the guys didn't step up, J stated that when I'm riled, he was scared of me. The man is 6'5 to my 5'4 and he's built like a linebacker. Go figure.
Like people have said...it all depends on context.
Do you honestly not understand, or just WISH you didn't, and not "relate", so to speak.Mimssy said:I don't understand people who are just looking to get into a fight. The only time I hit someone first is when they threw out a gay slur to my friend and threatened to rape her (because, you know, if she was with a "real man" she wouldn't be a lesbian anymore).Badger Kyre said:...sounds to me like his problem was he was a pussy who couldn't find anyone ELSE to throw his weight around,
and didn't realize you were THIN ICE.
I bet he drives a big SUV and has monster truck posters up now
I joked, but, not completely joking. there's a running point I was making about Ares vs Athena
( Ares is NOT technically the god of war, per se - but the debate is academic) -
the truth that is the grain of sand in the oyster of THAT jest is simple-
There is, in some, the need for POWER... domination.
I'll be sexist and say that urge is exaggerated in men. The extent is debatable, of course.
There are baser instincts in ALL of us, of course - good and evil.
What is important is which we CHOOSE.
Another base instinct , the one you mentioned just now, is that of intolerance, which could be said to be the natural "us/them" instinct of the tribe...
People get threatened and see you as a "them" if you threaten their world-view too much, especially if it's something personal like their masculinity ( you goddam dykes)
or a favorite example, walking with a lover of a different race.
If you strike a woman, no matter what, you have no honor. If she strikes you, you may restrain her, as long as you do not harm her intentionally. Well, that is how I see it.
My ex, before we dated, came out of a club to find her boyfriend's band getting the snot kicked out of them by the skinheads ( just because you're in a band, doesn't mean ya GOt to run your mouth, does it...?)newfiegirl 110 said:
She charged in, KNOCKED OUT one with a single insane punch, and stood toe-to-toe with another while her friends jumped in.
What do all these stories illustrate? Lotsa things, of course.
But the "core" of this thread is still pointing at the remaining stigma of the chivalrous/sexist expectations and gender roles.
You, or Xtine, or the other poster, Mimmssy, are still the exception, rather than the rule - but it does people like me good in our black little hearts to know that such "thin ice" exists for those assholes who want to throw their weight round when they think it's safe.
Beating up a girl unprovoked < Letting yourself get beat up by a girl < Getting beat up by a girl < Beating up a girl in self defence
The first makes you a gutless coward.
The second is just stupid and old fashioned.
The third is kinda lame, unless she's clearly stronger than you, or has some form of martial arts training.
There's nothing wrong with the fourth one. Women are supposed to be treated equally, just like all races, sexualities and so on. If a woman is attacking you, you have every right to defend yourself by whatever means necessary.
The first makes you a gutless coward.
The second is just stupid and old fashioned.
The third is kinda lame, unless she's clearly stronger than you, or has some form of martial arts training.
There's nothing wrong with the fourth one. Women are supposed to be treated equally, just like all races, sexualities and so on. If a woman is attacking you, you have every right to defend yourself by whatever means necessary.
Beating up anyone is a dick move so the answer should be obvious.
As for being beat up by a girl. God, if you're that worried about how other people see you then just say you didn't fight back because it was a girl. It's win-win.
As for being beat up by a girl. God, if you're that worried about how other people see you then just say you didn't fight back because it was a girl. It's win-win.
I am in no way a sexist. I merely said that is how I see it. If my girlfriend were to hit me, I would not hit back, I would merely restrain and attempt to calm her. It's an honor thing for me, because hitting a girl is a horrible act in my opinion, and everyone is entitled to an opinion.Terminalchaos said:
True, but then the alternative happens and you get beat up.Terminalchaos said:
You know forget I said anything... I need no reasoning!
You are an idiot! So abuse is ok if it's girl on guy. I hope you get the living shit beat out of you by an abusive girl and is put in the hospital. You probably will not be able to defend yourself legality and you won't defend yourself physical. Because if you try, you most likely get sued.saintchristopher said:
The domestic abuse laws are screwed up in the worst fucked up ways you you only make it worst. The only way to show you the truth is if your victimize or your close friend/family member suffers from it.
Am I the only one somewhat offended by this? I didn't spend half my life learning how to defend myself to be reduced to nothing more than a manipulator of biology.Serge A. Storms said:
From what I've seen, the general consensus here is that, providing the woman in question is either acting with the intention of causing serious bodily injury, or genuinely deserves it, all events that occur afterwards are fair game. This is something I agree with. If a woman decides to enter a physical fight with a person and that person is male, she is not doing so without the knowledge that, biologically, men are stronger on average. There is no more shame in either beating or being beaten by a man or a woman.
That being said, a study of martial arts has taught me that size matters even less than people might think. I've seen many a 6', 180 lb athlete get their asses kicked by people a little over half of that, and it was due to transfer of kinetic energy, accuracy, speed, and reaction time.
Having made this point, I'd like to point out that, though I would gladly accept a beating provided that I had legitimately been bested in physical competition, and I would do so as quickly as I would defend myself to the best of my ability if the situation demanded, senselessly assaulting anyone is nothing to be proud of, regardless of gender.