Poll: Which squickier loli/shota or guro?

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Oh dear god Guro. ugh. I remember reading one that
involved Black Widow (Marvel), A hand drill, and brains.
It was not pretty. I didn't get very far. I feel like puking just thinking about it. I don't see how anyone can get their rocks off on that type of thing, but if they do, I'm glad they're keeping it to the pages of a book.

Thanks for reminding me that guro is a thing, OP.
 

DementedSheep

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WinterWyvern said:
I love guro.
Not once have I considered myself not "normal" because of that.

You guys should chill out and enjoy your fetishes. Don't refuse the darkest part of your brain, because it's the people who don't come to term with their dark side that usually turn into killers and madmen.
Don't refuse the darkest part of your brain? please, you might get off on guro but that doesn't mean everyone else is harbouring fucked up fetishes and just won't admit it.
 

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WinterWyvern said:
DementedSheep said:
WinterWyvern said:
I love guro.
Not once have I considered myself not "normal" because of that.

You guys should chill out and enjoy your fetishes. Don't refuse the darkest part of your brain, because it's the people who don't come to term with their dark side that usually turn into killers and madmen.
Don't refuse the darkest part of your brain? please, you might get off on guro but that doesn't mean everyone else is harbouring fucked up fetishes and just won't admit it.

Really?

Then why is GTA5 one of the best selling games ever?
Why is Mortal Kombat loved because of its gruesome fatalities?
Why is the latest Steam fad a game about babies trying to get themselves killed?

Everyone, yes, EVERYONE is harbouring fucked up fetishes. This is a normal thing of our brain. This is why I've seen 13 years old students who absolutely love to play GTA and run over pedestrians and shoot people. This is why when I was a little kid me and my friends giggled and laughed at the fatalities we pulled out in the first Mortal Kombat games.

People who refuse to accept that yes, we do get a thrill on fictional violence, are the most dangerous people in my opinion. Because they end up repressing that part of their mind, instead of exorcizing their natural fears of death and violence.
How is that evidence that everyone is harboring "fucked up fetishes", as opposed to only the people who actually play those games? GTA has been controversial from the beginning, as has Mortal Kombat and it's absurd, over the top violence. And that baby game has been seen as repulsive by plenty of people. They're far from universally enjoyed.
I'm not sure which argument I disagree with more; the argument that because some subset of the population enjoy violent media then everyone does, or the argument that people who claim not to enjoy violence are dangerous because they are "repressing" that desire, as opposed to, you know, not having the desire in the first place.
 

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WinterWyvern said:
FirstNameLastName said:
WinterWyvern said:
DementedSheep said:
WinterWyvern said:
I love guro.
Not once have I considered myself not "normal" because of that.

You guys should chill out and enjoy your fetishes. Don't refuse the darkest part of your brain, because it's the people who don't come to term with their dark side that usually turn into killers and madmen.
Don't refuse the darkest part of your brain? please, you might get off on guro but that doesn't mean everyone else is harbouring fucked up fetishes and just won't admit it.

Really?

Then why is GTA5 one of the best selling games ever?
Why is Mortal Kombat loved because of its gruesome fatalities?
Why is the latest Steam fad a game about babies trying to get themselves killed?

Everyone, yes, EVERYONE is harbouring fucked up fetishes. This is a normal thing of our brain. This is why I've seen 13 years old students who absolutely love to play GTA and run over pedestrians and shoot people. This is why when I was a little kid me and my friends giggled and laughed at the fatalities we pulled out in the first Mortal Kombat games.

People who refuse to accept that yes, we do get a thrill on fictional violence, are the most dangerous people in my opinion. Because they end up repressing that part of their mind, instead of exorcizing their natural fears of death and violence.
How is that evidence that everyone is harboring "fucked up fetishes", as opposed to only the people who actually play those games? GTA has been controversial from the beginning, as has Mortal Kombat and it's absurd, over the top violence. And that baby game has been seen as repulsive by plenty of people. They're far from universally enjoyed.
I'm not sure which argument I disagree with more; the argument that because some subset of the population enjoy violent media then everyone does, or the argument that people who claim not to enjoy violence are dangerous because they are "repressing" that desire, as opposed to, you know, not having the desire in the first place.

GTA5 alone has sold over 54 million copies. Let me repeat again: fiftyfive million copies. And I'm not even included in that list since I don't like GTA.

Look around and realize the truth is that 90% of the videogames are about killing - humans or other creatures. Realize that violence is a BIG part of our animal brain.

Who are you: the only special snowflake who abhors every form of violence ever and who only plays entirely violence-free videogames where nobody gets hurt?
What exactly makes you think I'm excluding myself from this? I'm not claiming to abhor violence, merely pointing out that there are many others who do. As for 90% of videogames being about killing, again, this has hardily slipped under the radar without plenty of objection.
 

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WinterWyvern said:
DementedSheep said:
WinterWyvern said:
I love guro.
Not once have I considered myself not "normal" because of that.

You guys should chill out and enjoy your fetishes. Don't refuse the darkest part of your brain, because it's the people who don't come to term with their dark side that usually turn into killers and madmen.
Don't refuse the darkest part of your brain? please, you might get off on guro but that doesn't mean everyone else is harbouring fucked up fetishes and just won't admit it.

Really?

Then why is GTA5 one of the best selling games ever?
Why is Mortal Kombat loved because of its gruesome fatalities?
Why is the latest Steam fad a game about babies trying to get themselves killed?

Everyone, yes, EVERYONE is harbouring fucked up fetishes. This is a normal thing of our brain. This is why I've seen 13 years old students who absolutely love to play GTA and run over pedestrians and shoot people. This is why when I was a little kid me and my friends giggled and laughed at the fatalities we pulled out in the first Mortal Kombat games.

People who refuse to accept that yes, we do get a thrill on fictional violence, are the most dangerous people in my opinion. Because they end up repressing that part of their mind, instead of exorcizing their natural fears of death and violence.
I don't really see how the two are comparable. If I play something like GTA (bad example as I'm not really a fan) I'm doing it for the challenge, exploration or experimentation, finding what I can do. Not because I love killing prostitutes or get off on their despair like one of the posters in this thread. I also think it's important to note that there is a difference between enjoying something on it's own, and attaching that enjoyment to sexual gratification. Not a psychologist, but it's my understanding that people tend to get more and more involved in certain fetishes the more they attach their sexuality to it, to the point that they can no longer get off to anything but that fetish. Could well be talking out of my arse though. I'm good at that.
 

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WinterWyvern said:
FirstNameLastName said:
What exactly makes you think I'm excluding myself from this? I'm not claiming to abhor violence, merely pointing out that there are many others who do. As for 90% of videogames being about killing, again, this has hardily slipped under the radar without plenty of objection.

Now let's get all phylosophical here: you too, obviously, don't excluse yourself from enjoying a media featuring violence for entertainment (wether it's Call Of Duty type of shooter or an horror movie or a death metal band).
I think no sane person in the world would ever claim "I hate all forms of violent media!" because hello, even little kids enjoy them in the form of fairytales and similar. We're born with a thrill for violence.

The difference being of course, that for example a gore drawing that does not impress me might creep out someone else. It doesn't mean that I enjoy violence more than the other guy; it just means we have different sensibilities. Pretty sure there's many things out there that creep me out and many others find normal (Spongebob, for example... it's visually unsettling and disturbing for me yet lotsa people love it).

I am of the idea that violence is a very big part of nature, and therefore, no matter how evolved we are, it still occupies a very big part in our brains. This doesn't mean that we love violence, it just means that it catches our attention, and that often we want to see it in a fictional version as if to exorcize it.

Now I love gore art, as a lot of people apparently do if you go visit porn fanarts. Real life gore horrifies me, however. Maybe I am so thrilled by fictional gore because it scares me while not scaring me, the same kind of experience of people who love being freaked out by an horror film because they know they're not in danger.
As to why do I get off to it? Because fear is a powerful emotional response, and a study somewhere said a powerful fear response can get mixed up with an erotic response.
I don't disagree with the idea that violence is ingrained in our society, but I feel the topic of this discussion has shifted from "everyone has fucked up fetishes" to "everyone enjoys violence to some extent." After all, "violence" itself is a rather broad and vague term that can mean anything from someone being flayed alive while being gang raped with barbed-wire dildos, to someone throwing a single, comical punch.
Again, just like with the violence I'm not excluding myself from the fetishes either, and have no problem standing under the "has fucked up fetishes" banner. But, I disagree with the idea that everyone else does as well.
 

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WinterWyvern said:
This reminds of someone else who claimed violence was inherent in the system to justify his own perceived deviancies. He too claimed, to much controversy, that everyone secretly wanted to cut loose.

 

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Chairman Miaow said:
Grayjack said:
Guro. Although I'm not really sickened by it, it's not something that I look at and think "omg so hot."
You look at loli and go Omg so hot?
Not really, but I find it less disturbing than guro.
 

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Both and neither.

I find both repugnant but I'm also not one who embraces the notion of "thought crime".
 

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I find it hard to understand why people feel the need to police what gets other people off. So long as you're not doing anything non-consensual in real life, what business is it of anyone else what you find appealing?