Shock and Awe said:
I_am_a_Spoon said:
Shock and Awe said:
I personally think that Halo's Spartans are the superior Super Soldier. They may not be quite as tough as space marines, have the huge arsenal of Starship Troopers, or be as expendable as Stormtroopers, but they are much better rounded than any other. They are crazy deadly with or without suits, are easily smarter than any of the others, and can use just about any weapon without much trouble.
I actually think that Imperial Stormtroopers (Warhammer 40k, not Star Wars) would probably be an even match for Spartan IIs, and definitely able to hold their own against Spartan IIIs.
My brother and I had an hour-long discussion about it, and eventually agreed that the outcome would depend on the situational context.
Maybe, they are very similar, both in origin and purpose. Despite that I think the Genetic Mods and Armor of a Spartan III(even the armor used by most of them, not the Noble variants) push them ahead. Though without the armor it would definitely be an interesting fight. Probably just depending on who gets the drop on who.
Well, my brother and I figured that:
- Stormtrooper < Spartan
Though Stormtroopers have access to an extra 38000 years of training development and advances, Spartans are both physically and intellectually superior, able to utilise a level of resourcefulness and adaptability uncommon within the Imperium of Man. Both are probably similarly skilled when it comes to combat.
- Hellguns/Hot-Shot Lasguns > Assault Rifle/Battle Rifle
Aside from their logistical advantages, las-weapons have incredible accuracy (near-perfect ballistic properties and no recoil), equal (if not better) stopping power, and better penetrative ability (Hot-Shots can penetrate power armour, for example). Most Halo weapons are outdated even by modern standards.
- Carapace Armour = Mark VI MJOLNIR
Carapace is thicker and more resistant to damage, but MJOLNIR allows for greater agility/mobility, and provides both a basic energy shield and a sealed environment (though Stormtroopers can do the same).
Rems said:
Very situational.
If they were stripped of all equipment and forced to fight in a cage match then the Astartes (Space Marine) would win- he's far physically superior than the rest. 8 foot tall, 2 hearts, three lungs, self clotting wounds, immune to concussions, can crush a man's skull with his bare hands, strengthen bones and can spit acid.
Don't forget conscious control of pain receptors, can spend weeks without sleep, bulletproof fused ribcage, near-immunity to poisons, and can learn memories by eating a victim's brain. Not to mention all the wargear and support they have access to.