My cat doesn't spend it's time on internet forums telling a load of other cats that cats are superior to any other animal.Walter Sobchak said:I think the substance is made by the fact that we made the claim and we are the only ones who understand it personally I love my dog but as long as it can't write on a forum we are more superior
So you judge everyone's worth of survival based on their quality of life then?Walter Sobchak said:we are talking about quality of life at this point as much as I would like my friend if he can't think his quality of life is less than that of a man who can think
Personally I think that someone who thinks and acts just like a dog has the quality of life of a dog this isn't about species this is about humanity how something thinks and acts for example if you can find me a bear that can think as well as any human and can articulate his thoughts I will save him over the mentally disabled person/ may I speak with the bear afterMaze1125 said:Oh bollocks.will1182 said:If you died tomorrow, your cat would not even notice the difference if it still got its food.
That's exactly the sort of thing people like you say all the time and it is total bollocks.
I don't live with my old cat any more, only my mother does. My cat gets fed regularly by her, in fact when I did live with the cat, I was never the one to feed it.
And yet, somehow, whenever I go back to my old house to visit, the welcome I get from the cat, that I never once fed, is huge. In fact, it's greater than the welcome I often get from my own children. Although that's not a fair comparison, as I tend to only leave them for at most a couple of days at a time.
Still, the idea that pets don't care about humans beyond their next meal is just plain utter nonsense that anyone could see if they didn't purposely blind themselves to the way non-human animals behave.
Yep, I saved my disabled friend who has no parents and let someone with parents die. I'm a selfish bastard.If the person's parents are still alive, you have just killed their child.
I never said you did say that.Please point out where I said the relationship "transcends death".
And your example for that has how humans react when other humans die. Which, as I pointed out, is pretty damn similar to how people react when their pets die, just to differing degrees. The only exception being the parent-child relationship which is intrinsically biased due to evolution and so inappropriate for the example.I said that relationships between humans are deeper and more complex than relationships between humans and animals can ever hope to be.
Yes, I know you said that, because that is exactly the thing that I have a problem with.And like I said before, I don't care if you save your handicapped friend over another guy with family. It's your choice. You're still saving a human for another human, something I can support no matter the circumstances. It's only saving an animal over a human that I don't tolerate.
The only way this disabled person is different from a dog is that he is a human. He corresponds exactly with a dog in every single one of your arguments as to why humans are more worthy of life and yet you still attribute that same superiority to him even though he fails the very tests you give out yourself
yesMaze1125 said:My cat doesn't spend it's time on internet forums telling a load of other cats that cats are superior to any other animal.Walter Sobchak said:I think the substance is made by the fact that we made the claim and we are the only ones who understand it personally I love my dog but as long as it can't write on a forum we are more superior
That, quite frankly, seems like a point in favour of my cat.
So you judge everyone's worth of survival based on their quality of life then?Walter Sobchak said:we are talking about quality of life at this point as much as I would like my friend if he can't think his quality of life is less than that of a man who can think
So surely you'd save a happy cat over a manic depressive who cannot be cured then?Walter Sobchak said:yesMaze1125 said:So you judge everyone's worth of survival based on their quality of life then?
People are just as replaceable as pets.DesiPrinceX09 said:One can always get another pet no problem, but a person cannot be replaced.
no because a cat doesn't have a real thought process and the human does, quality of life means more than just happiness for example when the cat becomes obsesed with it's own mortality then we can talk, but you never anwsered my question would you rather kill your pet or murder a man walking by on the street which one will lead to more sleepless nights and if you choose the cat I think you need to look more heavily into the weight that your anwser holdsMaze1125 said:So surely you'd save a happy cat over a manic depressive who cannot be cured then?Walter Sobchak said:yesMaze1125 said:So you judge everyone's worth of survival based on their quality of life then?