The twins weren't even in the movie I kind of forgot about them till just now, but that would have been an awesome sceneMorsePacific said:
Poll: Who's excited for the new Christopher Paolini book then? [Discussion may contain spoilers]
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That scene is actually why. They were so incredibly panned in the last movie that any mention of them was basically removed and when they couldn't fit that scene in it was like they never existed.artanis_neravar said:
Not quite.artanis_neravar said:
Roran is a clone of Perrin from WoT, the blue flaming sword and the silver mark on Eragon's palm are from the Belgariad, the bridge scene from the first book was ripped almost entirely word for word from the Elenium, and the system of magic directly from A Wizard of Earthsea.
And that's just for starters...
Admittedly, it's fun to read, but you have to realise that there is absolutely NO originality contained within that series.
Then I apologize, I haven't read any of those books, and I also have never heard anyone complain about him stealing from them, just Star Wars and LotRBobbity said:
OHMYGOD that might actually work. Seriously, if thats actually it, take a bow.littlealicewhite said:
Exactly why I think it will be Orik, they keep mentioning that there has never been a dwarf rider beforeAnchupom said:
FixedBobbity said:
Yeah, these books are epically ripped off of anything and everything. The first one was kind of cool for a book a kid wrote, but the rest have no excuse.
Liked "Eragon" but lost all interest halfway through "Eldest". Bought "Brisingr" but didn't get caught by it either
Omigod, excited doesn't even begin to cover it! When I visited B&N a couple weeks ago and saw a billboard thing of it standing out there, I pretty much flew over so I could get deets.
I am just ever so psyched!
I am just ever so psyched!
I used to really like the books. Then I disliked them a lot. And now I'm just meh.
He did the biggest no-no that a book series can do for me: Claim to be a trilogy then decide that there needs to be more so alter that and just call is a series.
I really dislike that as there are three implications:
1. A storyline the author had planned is now being bloated with nonsense because the author felt like it.
or
2. A story lacked something that it needed to begin with (a sign of a shit author, as he should have at least semi-planned it out, content for another book inside the planned trilogy isn't going to just appear out of thin air, if his outline for his story arch was weak enough to require more books he should have acknowledged that before planning a trilogy and announcing it as such).
or
3. More money, which would be fine if he had simply tacked on more books (adding more books to the end is like saying you just want more out of it, putting books in the middle is like saying, I want more money because I just do so instead of letting you know the story in 3 books here's a couple more so anyone who was remotely interested in the originally story is forced to by more books to get the entire original plot line), but instead he decided to bloat the story.
In any case, the reason why I'm meh about it now is that it tries a bit too hard to be epic fantasy for me (without trying to bring originality). It's very "This is what a fantasy is as defined by Tolkien, so here's more of the same!"
I wouldn't say he plagiarized but he definitely went beyond just being inspired by. He played to stereotypical races as if there's some magic code he must follow (including his bad guys, can't remember their name, he just renamed orcs/trolls/whatevers). It's not an interesting read to me when you offer more of the same in some other overly thought out and complicated fantasy world.
It's so strange to have to say this but it's the only thing I give Stephanie Meyer credit for. At least her vampires did something other than suck blood and hiss at people as they burned to death in sunlight (or some variation, like turning to ash). It may not be very interesting, but at least sparkling is somewhat more original than just sticking to conventions on fantasy characters.
Odd note: I'd suggest Monster Blood Tattoo for a series that defines what I dislike about what people think everyone expects from high fantasy. The author has wonderful ideas and interesting characters, but they tend to get lost behind his obsessive need to tell the reader about places that the main character never even goes (or won't go until another book). It's like high fantasy has become one massive world building trial genre. It's not high fantasy if you haven't drawn a map of every single corner of the continent (bonus points for entire world) and invented at least 3 languages (probably all based on elvish).
He did the biggest no-no that a book series can do for me: Claim to be a trilogy then decide that there needs to be more so alter that and just call is a series.
I really dislike that as there are three implications:
1. A storyline the author had planned is now being bloated with nonsense because the author felt like it.
or
2. A story lacked something that it needed to begin with (a sign of a shit author, as he should have at least semi-planned it out, content for another book inside the planned trilogy isn't going to just appear out of thin air, if his outline for his story arch was weak enough to require more books he should have acknowledged that before planning a trilogy and announcing it as such).
or
3. More money, which would be fine if he had simply tacked on more books (adding more books to the end is like saying you just want more out of it, putting books in the middle is like saying, I want more money because I just do so instead of letting you know the story in 3 books here's a couple more so anyone who was remotely interested in the originally story is forced to by more books to get the entire original plot line), but instead he decided to bloat the story.
In any case, the reason why I'm meh about it now is that it tries a bit too hard to be epic fantasy for me (without trying to bring originality). It's very "This is what a fantasy is as defined by Tolkien, so here's more of the same!"
I wouldn't say he plagiarized but he definitely went beyond just being inspired by. He played to stereotypical races as if there's some magic code he must follow (including his bad guys, can't remember their name, he just renamed orcs/trolls/whatevers). It's not an interesting read to me when you offer more of the same in some other overly thought out and complicated fantasy world.
It's so strange to have to say this but it's the only thing I give Stephanie Meyer credit for. At least her vampires did something other than suck blood and hiss at people as they burned to death in sunlight (or some variation, like turning to ash). It may not be very interesting, but at least sparkling is somewhat more original than just sticking to conventions on fantasy characters.
Odd note: I'd suggest Monster Blood Tattoo for a series that defines what I dislike about what people think everyone expects from high fantasy. The author has wonderful ideas and interesting characters, but they tend to get lost behind his obsessive need to tell the reader about places that the main character never even goes (or won't go until another book). It's like high fantasy has become one massive world building trial genre. It's not high fantasy if you haven't drawn a map of every single corner of the continent (bonus points for entire world) and invented at least 3 languages (probably all based on elvish).
Not to mention (in the Star Wars ripoff vain) he is the "last" of an ancient order of warriors who were destroyed by one of their own. Also, the plot and how it plays out, is almost exactly the same. Take the first part of the story, princess is attacked by bad guy, send away something for old wise master to retrieve, fresh faced farmboy finds it, finds old wise master, gets his family killed as a result, runs away to train with old master, finds rougeish man who helps them...Bobbity said:
Sure, these are all well known tropes and archetypes, however, in this case I found them too glaring to ignore.
I will not be buying this book, although I might read it at a library or something just so I have more to complain about
Also, go read A Game of Thrones, its a far better book.
You forgot to mention that the person who did all the killing of the riders was the king, not the kings minion, the kings minion died before the books started, the master is the boys father, the boys brother sets off on an adventure of revenge, the roguish man is the son of the kings minion and becomes evilGrimTuesday said:Not to mention (in the Star Wars ripoff vain) he is the "last" of an ancient order of warriors who were destroyed by one of their own. Also, the plot and how it plays out, is almost exactly the same. Take the first part of the story, princess is attacked by bad guy, send away something for old wise master to retrieve, fresh faced farmboy finds it, finds old wise master, gets his family killed as a result, runs away to train with old master, finds rougeish man who helps them...Bobbity said:
Sure, these are all well known tropes and archetypes, however, in this case I found them too glaring to ignore.
I will not be buying this book, although I might read it at a library or something just so I have more to complain about
Also, go read A Game of Thrones, its a far better book.