Poll: Why Teens Don't Respect Adults, and Visa Versa

Ramthundar

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Well, I was browsing some old posts of mine in other forums, and I came across this little essay I wrote. It was a response to a friend of the site that asked me why parents/teens had such a gap in respecting, otherwise known as ageism. I made the following answer. I just thought it be fun to see what you, The Escapist of various ages, think about it.
You agree? Disagree? Have your own theories/ideas? Please do share.
To be noted, this was written by me about a year or two ago, and some opinions have changed/been improved. It's always intersting to look back and think "why did I think like that?"

Why Adults Don't Respect Teens and Visa Versa

The ageism conflict probably started when news became for more available and sophisticated. Back in the good ole days of black and white tv and radio sitcoms, adults were portrayed as perfect, wise creatures that must be respected and listened too. A child would grow throughout his years believing that any adult he met would be someone he or she could trust (unless they were deemed otherwise by their parents).

But nowadays, anyone, including the young, just had to look at the news to know that adults are not all that wise. Every other news story is Teacher Bob touching his students, Mister Osama killing soldiers, or Uncle Jim getting stuck in a tree after a beer drinking binge. The age of the perfect adult was gone.
And as soon as the respect was gone, all heck broke out.

"If the average adults on the news aren't that great, then why should my neighbors be any different?" thought the young. "For that matter, what about my teacher? Or my friend's parents? Or even my parents?!" And thus it begun. And the thoughts just went further. "Why should I be so nice and respectful to just any stranger?" the Young think in suspicion. "For all I know, he could be a jerk, or even a pedophile! He probably deserved it!" And thus was the cycle by the teens complete.

But it continues. The new age of the 21st century brings new laws and regulations. The wide spread of child harmers have alarmed the people at Washington. "New laws must be made into place!" they cry. "Protect the children" became the new motto. If these laws were effective or not (pedophiles are still a big problem, so my answer, no), what they did for parents and other adults was worsen the already breaking moral of teens. Now, any form of effective discipline was considered "child abuse." The Young now had a weapon to use against the Adults. Before, any adult would of could at the very least give a good clout of the ear to any foul mouth child. But now, even a glare would be considered "child endangerment." The respect was finally broken.

But it would not soon be fixed, for now distrust has grown throughout the Adult community. It would be easy, even logical to assume that any child born in this new world of no restraint would automatically also be a "foulmouth" or "hooligan". Since no one was preventing this, any child would learn the vocab of swears and rude behavior, maybe without even fully realizing of what they were doing. Swear words became normal words, used as easily as normal adjectives.
So Adults would form a negative view of any Young they meet, and treat them with caution, even hostility. But any attempt at correction would be dubbed to the Teens as "corny," with no need for them to take any concern in the Adult's want for respect.

But the question then forms, What to do about this? How do we restore the Respect? Well, bad new: the Respect is not coming back. There will always be idiots and pervs around to ruin the Adults image. So the first step of building the bridge to the two ages is
1.) Don't set up the "Perfect Adult" image.
Just be honest to kids. "Hey, not all Adults are that great. In fact, many are idiote jerks. But that doesn't mean you need to be one, too."
Next is the issue of the Child Laws. Most kids won't feel pressured to straighten up because they have little to no punishment. So step 2 goes to several different people.
2.) Be tough but courteous.
meaning:
Parents, punish your kids for swearing or bad behavior if you're not already.
Bosses, don't be the "Friend" for your young employees (I?ve been noticing this trend)
Teachers, set up certain punishments for swearing or misbehaving
Any other Adults, just ignore the kids if they are being rude and praise those that aren?t
But kid also have to play a part in this, too. Even though most adults don't deserve much respect, that does not mean you need to be an ass. Swear words are to be used when they really matter. If used in replacement of "a" or "the", they soon lose their meaning, and you end up looking like an idiot.
So two rules for the Young:
3) Don't swear, it's stupid. EDIT: That is, don't use it constantly or with every other word.
and
4) Be somewhat respectful to a person until you get to know them.
For #4, that means you don't have to immediately praise the next adult you see, but give them some courteousy. Who knows, they might even turn into out to be a good person.
 

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I don't have more or less respect for someone based upon their age. I formulate my opinion on someone based upon how they act towards me.

So If a teen or adult doesn't respect me then I won't respect them. It has nothing to do with age in my book.
 

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Being a teen myself for another 1 and a bit years, this was a very interesting read for me. As you're the same age as me it was quite a surprise to read the opinions that you have.

I'm going to first skip to the end of your post, with the 4 suggestions posted. I agree very much with 1 and 2. 1 for obvious reasons, it doesn't create an impossible image that adaults can't stand up to. and 2 because, i think that most teens simply don't care about the punishments, as you stated, they're so small it's hardly a punishment anymore, and praise is the way to get there.

What i don't agree with are 3 and 4 (mostly technicalities); I don't swear much myself, but i don't believe swear words are offensive, only the context they're used in, and i don't believe respect is something to be handed out, but instead earnt by each individual. This is not to say to be rude to them, be polite, but there's no reason for me to respect people straight away.

What i do disagree with is the issue in the first place. A lot of adaults say that youths have no respect for them, but what they don't think of, is when they were that age them self, and they used to do things just as bad. My dad, for example (We get along well), was much worse in school than i ever was (though i had my fair share :p). I don't think the issue is with today's youth, but just a stage of human life that most people go through, where they rebel against the establishments that are there (teachers are a perfect target).
 

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Teens will not respect Adults because Adults do not respect us. We are extremely reactive in this way, and until we are viewed as capable of something other than serving food at a fast food restaurant and causing trouble this will continue.
 

Ramthundar

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Darkmaster127 said:
What i do disagree with is the issue in the first place. A lot of adaults say that youths have no respect for them, but what they don't think of, is when they were that age them self, and they used to do things just as bad. My dad, for example (We get along well), was much worse in school than i ever was (though i had my fair share :p). I don't think the issue is with today's youth, but just a stage of human life that most people go through, where they rebel against the establishments that are there (teachers are a perfect target).
Yeah, I agree with you there. I took some Psychology courses and learned some interesting facts about the "rebellion" stage. But I still think my old theory contributes just a bit.
 

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Ageism is a huge part of my job. I am a cashier so if I see someone who looks really old, I am supposed to assume they are weak and ask if I can assist them. I am also supposed to ask young kids if for ID if they try to buy beer or alcohol. I guess that makes me an ageist but it doesn't matter since there is no hate group based on age.
 

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Yes, I remember in my teenage years I was a metalhead, demin jacket covered in metal studs and spikes, hair halfway down my back etc, and yet, in my local area, I was known as that nice helpful boy by the little old ladies, and it must have looked quite funny to outsiders to see little grannies actively going up to this scary hairy freak to say hello.

I guess part of me wanting to look how I wanted to look, but I didn't see why that meant I had to be threatening or aggressive, so I went out of my way to be polite.

I did tend to attract a fair bit of police attention however, which is a shame, because if you know anything about teenage culture, you know you're more likely to find drugs on the clubby teens than the metal ones.

EDIT: Anyway, in short, I try to go by the rule, I'll treat everyone with respect until they prove to me that they're a fuckwit.
 

Antidamacus

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Teens and adults have two different value systems and ways of thinking. This is only partially due to society but mostly due to the fact adults and teens just have different bodies and minds.
 

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I can completely get along with others of different ages. It is just a matter of getting along with that person in general due to interest conflict or just not likeing each other.
 

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Delicious said:
Teens will not respect Adults because Adults do not respect us. We are extremely reactive in this way, and until we are viewed as capable of something other than serving food at a fast food restaurant and causing trouble this will continue.
Plenty of adults respect teenagers, if they act like civilized human beings. They do not respect teenagers who, like the OP stated, swear every 5 seconds and act like pompous bratty twits. I don't respect anyone who acts that way, but whether you choose to admit it or not, a lot of teenagers are spoiled. A lot have a sense of entitlement, think they can act however they want and god forbid if a parent or authority figure won't put up with it, said authority figure becomes an unfair asshole.

I've seen a lot of people my age (17) act this way and frankly it disgusts me. It has a lot to do with how you're raised; growing up I was taught to be respectful to everyone, hold open doors for people, to not swear, etc. But the fact that many teenagers act stupid then wonder why adults don't respect them is undeniable. Yes, adults who simply look down on teenagers exist. However, I've found that they're not the majority.
 

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I'll respect anyone who gives me cause to do so regardless of age, gender, colour, appearance or anything else. It's a problem I've noticed [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/18.87295] too, especially in the time I've been a political activist. Hellishly irritating to have people tell you to "Shut up" just because I can't put my mark on a ballot paper yet.
 

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I respect any adult who respects me, I don't mind being reprimanded by adults if they do it in an understanding way, for example when I practice parkour at my school, I hate the teachers that say "Oi! do you have any idea how stupid that is!? you could fall and break your neck and I'll be held responsible" that sort of crap, but if they ask what I'm doing and talk to me about it so they understand and then politely tell me to ease up a bit, then I'll respect them for it. The reason I behave is empathy for my parents, I know they sacrifice so much for me and my siblings, and because my older sister is a ***** when she doesn't get what she wants and I try my hardest to not be like her
 

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I treat everyone the same, Its not so much respect as it is, I don't know, disliking human interaction period so I act like a robot with only a few pre-programmed responses and none of them take into account age. For some reason I make babies smile though...
 

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I hate generalizations. Im a teen and I try to show everyone respect. But lately I don't think some adults have been giving me respect, I think they look down on me because of the way I dress and my age. Its not like 20 or 30 year olds that look down on me, it just seems like its people above 40. But still its very annoying when I'm at work and they give you a disapproving look. I know many kids in my age group go around and act immature and swear in public, but I don't. Its just like racial stereotyping, don't do it.
 

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Hexadecimal16 said:
Delicious said:
Teens will not respect Adults because Adults do not respect us. We are extremely reactive in this way, and until we are viewed as capable of something other than serving food at a fast food restaurant and causing trouble this will continue.
Plenty of adults respect teenagers, if they act like civilized human beings. They do not respect teenagers who, like the OP stated, swear every 5 seconds and act like pompous bratty twits. I don't respect anyone who acts that way, but whether you choose to admit it or not, a lot of teenagers are spoiled. A lot have a sense of entitlement, think they can act however they want and god forbid if a parent or authority figure won't put up with it, said authority figure becomes an unfair asshole.

I've seen a lot of people my age (17) act this way and frankly it disgusts me. It has a lot to do with how you're raised; growing up I was taught to be respectful to everyone, hold open doors for people, to not swear, etc. But the fact that many teenagers act stupid then wonder why adults don't respect them is undeniable. Yes, adults who simply look down on teenagers exist. However, I've found that they're not the majority.
If they act like civilized human beings? Because no civilized human being has ever swore or done something stupid right?

This is the kind of thinking that bothers me. It is the byproduct of a society that labels us as "teenager" - a term immedietly associated with reckless behavior, idiotic impulses and complete disgregard for authority. It is a self fulfilling stereotype - we are treated like wild animals, and often, in defiance, act like wild animals. For example, very few adults have ever treated me as an equal, often feigning "respect" so long as I did what they expected of me. The moment I challenge them on anything, they disregard me as just another hormonely distressed "teenager" using phrases such as "I know you are smart, but..." or "You'll understand later...", as if there is some magical transformation from the age of 17 to 18 that will suddenly mold me into yet another adult that understands anything and everything.

In fact, the only difference between me and the average adult is the different expectations placed upon us. The adult is expected to be an industrius and responsible member of society, balancing work, recreation and family flawlessly while the teenager is expected to experiment with various drugs, get arrested, and struggle in school. If we don't, we will at most get a nice, insignificant pat on the back while the adults around us start wondering exactly how long it will take us to screw something up.
 

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Well-mannered psychopath here. Treat people very nice, up to the point they treat me with even the slightest modicum of ill-will or disrespect. Then I hurt them.