Slayer_2 said:
How can you identify as female when our society's ideas of what is feminine changes so rapidly (compared to the speed evolution moves at)? You think female brains are wired from birth to love high heels, gossip, makeup, skirts, and all that crap? Of course not, they are targeted from a young age post-birth to think of these things as feminine. As a male, YOU are not the target, instead you are told to love guns, cars, fighting/violent sports, whatever. You want me to seriously believe you come out of the womb thinking "Oh, I can't wait to go shoe shopping"? That makes no sense, the newborn doesn't understand money, fashion, whatever. You're born with instincts (such as sexuality, basic needs, etc). These develop, and the rest springs up according to your lifestyle and the impression society makes on you. The difference between homosexuals and transsexuals is so vast it's like comparing apples to stones. One is born that way and is happy with their body. The other is born and comes to the conclusion they are another gender, then (usually) tries to change this. Unfortunately, the best they can do is a half-ass kind of thing.
Wow... this is so ignorant and transphobic, I don't know where to start. I mean, I know accusations of bigotry are thrown around a lot when discussing race, sexuality and gender, but some people really merit these accussations. I'm surprised more people don't see it.
Seriously, if you think the only part of belonging to a gender is these broad stereotypes, you are VERY mistaken. You also said earlier that you wouldn't mind waking up in a female body. Well, I don't think you've thought that all the way through. What about when everyone starts treating you as female and you are expected to conform to the thousands of tiny social constraints that females have to? Again, your first instinct will likely be to think of the broad gender roles, the kinda sexist crap you hear about, but I assure you that there are many you probably wouldn't even be able to conceive of.
Also, your argument for why gender isn't this innate thing could easily be compared to people's arguments that sexuality isn't an innate thing. "What, you think people just come out the womb craving cock or pussy?", "How can one identify as gay or lesbian, when society's perception of gay or lesbian is always changing?", "You are born with the most basic instincts; sexuality and lifestyle choice are effected by how you're raised". It's so stupid, comes from such a "common sense" approach, trying to simplify things down, not letting those annoying things called facts get in the way.
Also, the nature vs. nurture thing is kinda pointless as, either way, the gender they identify as doesn't match their physical sex. I mean, if race or sexuality were governed by nurture, would that make racism and homophobia acceptable? Or, come to think of it, are you trying to imply that transpeople are simply deluded? In that case, don't you think those that conduct the psychological evaluation needed before transpeople can transition would notice? Don't you think dealing with it would be a lot simpler if it wasn't a very deep, very fundamenal thing?
You, again, seem to make out that transpeople identify as the opposite gender to the sex they're born into is some kinda whim, some kinda conscious decision. It's no more a choice than being gay is, or being straight is, or being cisgendered is. You come across as staggeringly ignorant of everything about sex and gender, like the kind of person that has views on this stuff, but has not looked into it much. Once again, these views and conclusions seem based on the rather lazy "common sense" approach.
So I ask you, how should transpeople go about the difference between their gender and sex? I'm curious to know what you think they should do. Should they suck it up and not try to live as their gender, live as their birth sex instead? How should we treat transpeople if not how they wish to be treated? Seriously, I've got no idea what you're getting at here.