well now that you have come off so nice about why you were doing what you were doing, I'll give in a bit. I suppose the media influenced me too.SirFlamingLoboOfDoom said:I wanted a really reason so I was asking you and you kept on saying the same thing about me trying to change your opinion like questioning your opinion is a bad thing. I am also stating my opinion on your opinion too because I can.Volf99 said:I guess you just like seeing the same response, because I'm not changing my stance on the subject. I find it gross, disgusting, off putting. You will no sooner convince my find men attractive (nothing against homosexuals), than you will get me to decide that incest is ok. You want to know why so badly that vI expressed my opinion? Because this is a forum and the OP asked us a question to answer. I'm stating my opinion for the same reason your stating your opinion, because YOU CAN.SirFlamingLoboOfDoom said:Seriously...please someone explain that you don't need to believe everything to be influenced.Volf99 said:As I have stated in previous post, I don't blindly follow everything so you can stop telling me that I just feel this way because my culture says to. If that was the case, then I would also not eat shrimp or do anything on Saturday.....but I DO eat shrimp and I AM active on Saturday. Hence YOUR idea that I only feel this way because my culture does, is.complete.bull.SHIT!SirFlamingLoboOfDoom said:Your blocking out the fact that there is no good reason to be disgusted by it. It doesn't "so happen" to be that way....illogical ideas like this are introduced not spontaneously created.Volf99 said:I am not blocking out anything. I find it disgusting and it so happens that my culture does too. Do NOT tell me what my opinion on the subject should be.SirFlamingLoboOfDoom said:JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE ABLE TO IGNORE SOME THINGS DOESN'T MEAN YOUR NOT IGNORANT.Volf99 said:Seriously, me not agreeing with you doesn't make me ignorant. Also just just stated I was "blind" and was "WILLFUL[LY] Ingoran[t]", so I provided counter examples to show that I don't accept everything I'm told. Thus, I am not "blind" nor am I "WILLFUL[LY] Ignoran[t]", because in order for me to be such, I would have to follow the rules against shellfish and about rest on Saturday.SirFlamingLoboOfDoom said:You think I don't call Christians ignorant because they pick and choose? Just because you abandon some things because you know it is bullshit doesn't mean you are not ignorant.Volf99 said:Thanks for showing your ignorance, because I never stated that I followed all my cultures beliefs. For example, I eat shrimp (I love it) and I'm physically active on Saturdays.SirFlamingLoboOfDoom said:BLINDLY following tradition culture religion makes you extremely ignorant. You fully well know there is no good reason to not be okay with it yet you are still appalled by it because of your culture. That is one of the worst kinds of ignorance....WILLFUL Ignorance.Volf99 said:Why do I care? Because I'm human and its natural for me to form an opinoin on something. As for judging people, again I'm human and WE all judge people. I judge you and you judge me. It's natural and I see no problem with it.garjian said:I didn't, I asked why you should care.Volf99 said:As for my culture, I LIKE MY CULTURE. Don't tell me how to view my culture. If you don't like my/your culture, fine. However don't tell ME what opinions to form on Jewish culture.
and if you choose to base your opinions on that, and be ignorant of all the arguments in front of you because of it, then don't dare judge and impose restrictions on others.
Again I never said I would prevent anybody from doing it (restrict them) so stop telling me what my opinion is.
Last thing, me following my culture doesn't make me ignorant.
You are willfully blocking out knowledge that would tell you there is nothing wrong with Consented sex in all forms.
I had no "incest is bad!" from my up bringing from my traditions religion and culture so when I first though about it I could go...No problem with incest whatsoever. You were exposed to your culture with "incest is disgusting" and you can't accept that there is no evidence that consented and protected sex is negative and thus that it is perfectly fine.
As for evidence, I never tried using science in any of my post, I just stated my opinion. As for incest being "perfectly fine", I disagree. You don't have to like my opinion, but you're not going to change it.
My opinion is based off my personal feelings on the matter, that is all.
Explain how some Christians ignore slavery and yet they are against homosexuality. Just because they apply their morals on one thing does not mean they truly think or wound have truly thought that homosexuality is wrong. Just like you apply common sense to shrimp yet you think incest is wrong. Please rebut this point or tell us the true origin of your disgust.
It is not science that something is wrong until proven right. I said why it is right tell us why it is wrong or admit you just think that way for no reason at all. (Is it okay to practice incest? is debatable so don't keep saying its your opinion without telling us why)
And where did your personal feelings come from? Thin air? One day you think about incest and you just think its wrong for no reason and you make it your "opinion"? I think its your culture so prove me wrong.
Idk where my personal feelings came from. Perhaps I'm just wired that way. The same wiring that told me to like Batman as opposed to any other character. (btw like my opinion on incest, nobody told whether or not to like batman).
This is what I was talking about. Too bad your answer is.....Um i dunno? I wanted to go somewhere because your opinion was the most interesting. I still feel you got influenced from somewhere because it would be impossible to create such a...strong opinion.
I guess It's finished now...nice talking with you. And no hard feelings? (Please forgive all the words I used because It was not to insult you but I felt they were accurate descriptors)
Just for someone who wants to have a conversation with someone he doesn't know on the internet and not look it up on Wikipedia (you caught me, I realised I could look it up, but hey I'm asking anyway), do you have any blood with this cousin?Deathleaper said:Lets say you have a distant cousin(3rd, 4th, or 5th) and the 2 of you find each other attractive, and both of you were close enough to actually have feelings for each other. You hang out, and the topic of it comes up, and your cousin is up to it. Would you do it if no one knew about it?
If she were my 3rd cousin, I may. 4th or 5th definitely, we're so distant it wouldn't even matter.
I'm asking because recently I was at a family gathering, and a lot of my relatives brought along some friends(ie, people not related to me), which wouldn't make it a "family gathering" anymore and just a party. I was sitting at a table and this girl I have never seen before sat next to me. I figured she was a friend of one of my relatives. Yadda yadda yadda, we flirt but then we find out we're related(3rd cousins). She still seems interested in me, and Vindictive God help me, I may go for it.
So what about you, Escapits?
This and what more than a few others have said. Hell, my ex-girlfriend and I even roleplayed that we were siblings once or twice, and after it ended she decided to become like a sister because we've remained so close despite it all.lithium.jelly said:Why the hell not? In most places outside of the USA, sex, romance and even marriage between 2nd cousins or more distant is considered quite acceptable and there's really nothing weird or wrong about it. American culture is full of the weirdest hangups.