Some very good points but I would slightly disagree. I believe that gender has a lot to do with a well written character motivations, decision making, and general presentation. What I would like to see is a female character who's sexuality isn't the #1 focus. No Laura Croft saying "lets get out of these wet clothes."Shadowstar38 said:Well written characters are just well written characters. Gender is arbitrary.
You know how you can make the industry have more strong female protagonists?
1) Make a male character like you usually do, with all the strenghts and faults.
2) Keep their actions and how they are dressed exactly the same.
3) Draw boobs on them.
Strong female protagonist.
Not necessarily. Just because a good character is female doesn't make them a good female character. To paraphrase Extra Credits, a good female character is a character that female traits and explores how they interact with others and the setting. Case in point, Beyond Good and Evil. Jade is a good female character because female traits, primarily motherhood, are intrinsic to her character, motivations, and actions. If you wanted to make her character male, you would need to change the game around some to compensate for it,Shadowstar38 said:Well written characters are just well written characters. Gender is arbitrary.
You know how you can make the industry have more strong female protagonists?
1) Make a male character like you usually do, with all the strenghts and faults.
2) Keep their actions and how they are dressed exactly the same.
3) Draw boobs on them.
Strong female protagonist.
You'd have to go a bit further than having a female cyborg to be accused of outright plagiarizing Ghost in the Shell. You'd have to rip off specific plot points and dialog as well. Just because two characters share traits doesn't make it plagiarism. At the same time yes, I see similarities between Deus Ex and Ghost in the Shell, it's kind of hard not too.Gearhart said:I guess it would come too close to the Ghost in the Shell anime to avoid any calls of plagarism, there's nothing wrong with a female protagonist but a carbon copy of Jensen's personality in female form may feel a little to similar with Maj. Kusanagi in that series.
Both cyborgs, both reserved, both in their 30s, both with issues connecting or identifying with the rest of humanity...blah,blah,blah etc.
The main difference I suppose to OP's idea is that the creator of the series had little interest in drawing anything other than petite women in their early 20s as main characters. So a 30-40 year old female's brain inhabits a mechanical shell of the form of a 20 year old - whereas I never saw anything like that level of tech in Deus Ex.
Anyone else see the similarities between Deus Ex HR and GitS?
I always found it odd that those two cops in the precinct talked about every other movie in the genre EXCEPT this one.
Ohh your avatar fits so well with this thread xDAdam Jensen said:Why not?
Boob augmentation!
Kinda sorta. It opened with an attack that ended up with Jensen's quasi-/ex-girlfriend (I never could figure out the exact status of their relationship, I think they broke up because she was feeling guilty that she used his DNA to make a few clones that end up as the protags in the other DE games) being kidnapped, and you do end up finding and "rescuing" her, but the plot is more driven by "find out who attacked and why" instead of "go rescue the chick".Chemical Alia said:I don't see why not. Other than not really liking Deus Ex in the first place, and only playing about two hours of it, I mean. I would prefer some other plot device than "rescuing my boyfriend" as that sounds lame (was that actually the plot?), but whatevs.
No question. I'd easily play as a female. They'd need to rewrite the story a little (and maybe have the boyfriend be more of a character than Jensen's girlfriend was) but it could obviously work.Powerman88 said:I was just reading Shamus's latest experienced points and it really got me thinking; would a AAA action game work with a female character who is not a 21 year old bikini model with something to prove?
What if you had a game where 32 year old security expert Adriana Jensen lost her nerdy scientist boyfriend in a terrorist attack and needed to scour the globe unraveling a mysterious conspiracy and searching for her lost love? Would you play that?
I would. What do you think?