Poll: Would you take a pill that makes you bisexual?

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CrimsonBlaze said:
I say no because I love women and I have never been attracted to men or have ever thought about being involved with a man.

I would only ask why anyone would need a pill to be with who they want to be with?

There are plenty of people from one sexual orientation or another that have sexual partners with people that they're sexual orientation would dictate that they would not be attracted to or have relations with. I feel that regardless of your sexual orientation, if you want to pursue a relationship or sexual act with anyone of any sexual orientation, go for it.

Nothing or nobody has the right to dictate how you live your life or who you choose to share it with.
Human sexuality does not work like this.

they're sexual orientation would dictate that they would not be attracted to or have relations with
What an utterly nonsensical statement. If you're sexually attracted to 2 genders then you're bi.

A straight man cannot be attracted to men because if hes attracted to men he's not straight.

if you want to pursue a relationship or sexual act with anyone of any sexual orientation, go for it.
Think of all the gay people with immense pressure and incentive to love women instead of men. I'm sure most of them liked their wives immensely, and in the context of the times were they believed doing what they wanted would result in hell would have wanted very much to be straight.

They didn't succeed, because human sexuality cannot be forced like that. It's not a matter of "Wanting" to do anything, you get what you get.

Nothing or nobody has the right to dictate how you live your life or who you choose to share it with.
Your body or your mind aren't concerned with your rights, or your permission.
 
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chiefohara said:
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One of the most bizarre questions i've ever seen.

Short Answer, No.

Long Answer, why would i take a pill like that? Seriously if your GF found out you were taking a pill to make you bisexual she wouldn't exactly be happy about the long term state of your relationship. If your boyfriend who you met through using the pill found out that you'd need to pop a pill every day the rest of your life to stay in love with him, i doubt he'd be happy either.

You are what you are, why mess with it?
23% of poll answers at the moment are yes.

Are you actually saying something almost a quarter of people would want to do is one of the most bizarre questions you've ever seen?

Seriously if your GF found out you were taking a pill to make you bisexual she wouldn't exactly be happy about the long term state of your relationship. If your boyfriend who you met through using the pill found out that you'd need to pop a pill every day the rest of your life to stay in love with him, i doubt he'd be happy either.
The pill is permanent. I didn't say temporarily bisexual, this was fairly freaking obvious.

You are what you are, why mess with it?
Why NOT mess with it? This is a complete knee-jerk reaction, if you perceive a part of yourself as negative and would like to change it then as long as the thought process behind your reasons doesn't contradict with reality how is this anything except a rational decision?

If someone made you asexual while you were in a relationship you'd take the pill in heartbeat, because the benefits of taking the pill would outweigh the negative aspects of taking the pill.

And once we've established that there are perfectly valid reasons for taking it, any positive consequence is a valid reason for taking it, and it just becomes a cost-benefit analysis.

I'm not asking you to commit an atrocious act of self mutilation, I'm asking you to make a cost-benefit analysis. The human mind is not an untouchable bastion that never changes, you change yourself and the way you look at the world practically everyday.

Stop acting so bewildered.
 
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Why take a pill? If you want to have sex with someone of the same sex then you are already Bi-sexual therefore anyone who takes the pill is already Bi-sexual before taking it. If you don't but want to want to have sex with someone of the same sex then why? There has to be some alternative reason to want to desire something you don't desire, or you are insane...
Uh no. That's as ridiculous as saying that if a pill makes asparagus taste good and I decide to take it then asparagus must have tasted good to me before. I'd hope people are able to think ahead and tell that while they might dislike something now if they take the pill they might enjoy it later and decide based off of this.
How about a pill that makes feces taste good then, or putrid animal carcass? Would you take a pill that makes you enjoy stabbing yourself in the face with a fork? How about a pill that makes it OK to kill people? you might like it later.

A chemically induced sexual experiment would require you already be curious unless the pill was forced on you.
Not at all. All those things have other downsides to them. Would it be so hard to be honest and not pick examples that have ethical downsides and health concerns?
You don't see an ethical downside with tampering with someones brain chemistry to induce a selected behavior? I would like to hear some ethical benefits to this Bi-sexual pill. Something better than "har har more sex for me lolz".
You do know the difference between ethical downside and lack of ethical benefit, yes? There does not need to be an ethical benefit to it. There is no ethical downside because someone is altering their own brain chemistry towards a specific purpose that is not harmful. Nowhere did I say there was an ethical benefit, I said there were ethical downsides to some of the things you made up.
So is there any benefit to this pill?
That depends on your point of view and what you want. If you want more possible sexual partners, yes.
Bi-sexuality does not inherently mean more possible sexual partners, you do realize that right? It would only make YOU interested in a wider range of sexual partners while probably shutting you off from other possibilities at the same time.

Now if it were a pill to swap your sex for 24 hours that might be more interesting.
Bi-sexuality does not inherently mean more possible sexual partners,
Yes it very obviously does. I can't comprehend the thought process behind that statement.

On top of what you previously had you have every bi and gay member of your own gender.

If you were gay your sexual partners go up by more than 900%
 
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Fairly simple question here, in the hypothetical situation that someone came up with something like this. Explain your reasons.
Hell no, Im happy with who I am and it is a little saddening to think that someone would think its a good idea to take any kind of medication, fictional or not, to try and change your sexual orientation - regardless if it is Dr Kellogg trying to cure homosexuality or some pill trying to change whatever other sexuality is in play.
If someone made you asexual while you were in a loving marriage would you take the pill?
 

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No, I would not. Call me arbitrary and limited, but I'm happy with the things I like, why would I take a pill that's even more arbitrary than the thing you claim it would treat?

If we use the term treat in the loosest possible way ¬_______¬
Ummm, treat?

What?

If you've somehow actually managed to interpret this into thinking that I have a problem with any sexuality that people may or may not have then... Wow? I really don't? Were did you get that?
I wasn't really claiming that.

However, if you didn't want people to confuse your intentions, you probably shouldn't use the term 'pill' i.e., medication, i.e., something used to treat something.
A pill =/= medication. Unless you think roofies and most types of drugs are medication.

That's an extremely strenuous chain of logic.
You mean the drug designed to treat insomniacs?

Yes, medication.

Pills are designed to 'fix' something.

Barring that pill made with gold leaf to give your bowel movements some bling.....although technically i suppose that is fixing the lack of bling >.>

OT: why would anyone or even why SHOULD anyone want to take a pill to change their preference. If you were going to be bisexual it would happen same as all other sexual preferences. Fall in love or bone whoever the hell you fancy just be comfortable in who you are.
 

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Eh, I find it hard to imagine I'd ever be happy with a guy, even if I were attracted to him. I'm gonna have to say no, as I imagine it would only increase my potential for ending up with another incompatible partner.

blackrave said:
Wait a minute.
You talk about ecstasy, right?
Because I have suspicions that ecstasy is supposed to work like that.
[disclaimer: never tried ecstasy so my understanding about its effect is limited]
No, ecstasy does not make you bisexual. A large number of guys can't even get it up while on ecstasy.

Funny though, with a name like blackrave I would have thought you'd be very familiar with the effects of ecstasy.
 

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I find our personalities are defined as much by what we dislike as by what we like, so I don't see a reason why I would want to take a pill that changed my personality.
 

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Yeah, why not? It just might give me a greater chance of getting laid, and I?d be able to watch gay porn and not think, ?This is boring as hell?. I?m kind of bicurious anyway.

However, the disadvantage could be that I?d become even more sexually frustrated, if I?m not getting any from either gender.
 

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I don't get the "I like my sexuality" comments.

As far as i understand his premise you would still like your sexuality afterwards, it just makes you attracted to both instead of one gender.
So since the premise states no negative side-effects from the pill the only rational action would be taking the pill.

It nearly doubles the amount of people to have a sexy-time with.

Not taking the pill under his premise would be irrational.
1) "I like my sexuality" does not mean "I like girls" or "I like boys." It means "I like liking girls but not boys" and "I like liking boys but not girls."

2) The people who don't want the pill perceive becoming bisexual to BE a negative side effect.

3) No, it doesn't. You can have sex with anyone you can convice (or force, but that's rape so don't do that) to have sex with you. All this changes is whether you'll want/enjoy it.

4) It's not irrational because there's nothing rational about having sex with a more diverse group. It's arguably irrational, because widening your pool from which you take sexual partners widens the pool from which you take STDs.
 

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Why take a pill? If you want to have sex with someone of the same sex then you are already Bi-sexual therefore anyone who takes the pill is already Bi-sexual before taking it. If you don't but want to want to have sex with someone of the same sex then why? There has to be some alternative reason to want to desire something you don't desire, or you are insane...
Uh no. That's as ridiculous as saying that if a pill makes asparagus taste good and I decide to take it then asparagus must have tasted good to me before. I'd hope people are able to think ahead and tell that while they might dislike something now if they take the pill they might enjoy it later and decide based off of this.
How about a pill that makes feces taste good then, or putrid animal carcass? Would you take a pill that makes you enjoy stabbing yourself in the face with a fork? How about a pill that makes it OK to kill people? you might like it later.

A chemically induced sexual experiment would require you already be curious unless the pill was forced on you.
Not at all. All those things have other downsides to them. Would it be so hard to be honest and not pick examples that have ethical downsides and health concerns?
You don't see an ethical downside with tampering with someones brain chemistry to induce a selected behavior? I would like to hear some ethical benefits to this Bi-sexual pill. Something better than "har har more sex for me lolz".
You do know the difference between ethical downside and lack of ethical benefit, yes? There does not need to be an ethical benefit to it. There is no ethical downside because someone is altering their own brain chemistry towards a specific purpose that is not harmful. Nowhere did I say there was an ethical benefit, I said there were ethical downsides to some of the things you made up.
So is there any benefit to this pill?
That depends on your point of view and what you want. If you want more possible sexual partners, yes.
Bi-sexuality does not inherently mean more possible sexual partners, you do realize that right? It would only make YOU interested in a wider range of sexual partners while probably shutting you off from other possibilities at the same time.

Now if it were a pill to swap your sex for 24 hours that might be more interesting.
Bi-sexuality does not inherently mean more possible sexual partners,
Yes it very obviously does. I can't comprehend the thought process behind that statement.

On top of what you previously had you have every bi and gay member of your own gender.

If you were gay your sexual partners go up by more than 900%
I cant comprehend your idea that Bi-sexual means that EVERYONE might sleep with you

And you would be excluding many strait people of the opposite sex who wouldn't want to sleep with a Bi-sexual, don't forget the Bi and gay population is not nearly as large as the hetero population. You would be gaining at most 3.5% and loosing how much of the 48%? You seem to be counting hetero people of the same sex which unless everyone took the pill you can't.
 

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Why take a pill? If you want to have sex with someone of the same sex then you are already Bi-sexual therefore anyone who takes the pill is already Bi-sexual before taking it. If you don't but want to want to have sex with someone of the same sex then why? There has to be some alternative reason to want to desire something you don't desire, or you are insane...
Uh no. That's as ridiculous as saying that if a pill makes asparagus taste good and I decide to take it then asparagus must have tasted good to me before. I'd hope people are able to think ahead and tell that while they might dislike something now if they take the pill they might enjoy it later and decide based off of this.
How about a pill that makes feces taste good then, or putrid animal carcass? Would you take a pill that makes you enjoy stabbing yourself in the face with a fork? How about a pill that makes it OK to kill people? you might like it later.

A chemically induced sexual experiment would require you already be curious unless the pill was forced on you.
Not at all. All those things have other downsides to them. Would it be so hard to be honest and not pick examples that have ethical downsides and health concerns?
You don't see an ethical downside with tampering with someones brain chemistry to induce a selected behavior? I would like to hear some ethical benefits to this Bi-sexual pill. Something better than "har har more sex for me lolz".
You do know the difference between ethical downside and lack of ethical benefit, yes? There does not need to be an ethical benefit to it. There is no ethical downside because someone is altering their own brain chemistry towards a specific purpose that is not harmful. Nowhere did I say there was an ethical benefit, I said there were ethical downsides to some of the things you made up.
So is there any benefit to this pill?
That depends on your point of view and what you want. If you want more possible sexual partners, yes.
Bi-sexuality does not inherently mean more possible sexual partners, you do realize that right? It would only make YOU interested in a wider range of sexual partners while probably shutting you off from other possibilities at the same time.

Now if it were a pill to swap your sex for 24 hours that might be more interesting.
Yes, it does mean more possible sexual partners because now there are more people you'd be willing to have sex with. Thus 'possible'. And it doesn't shut off possibilities to find more people attractive.
Increases it by less than 3.5% unless you count strait people of the same sex which you cant because its irrational to think that every person would possibly sleep with you just because YOU are Bi-sexual.
 

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Wow. A lot of negativity here!
I would, absolutely. What if there's a guy out there who's perfect for me, but I'm not attracted to him, so it's hopeless? If I was bisexual, I'd double my chances of finding my perfect partner.
 
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Why take a pill? If you want to have sex with someone of the same sex then you are already Bi-sexual therefore anyone who takes the pill is already Bi-sexual before taking it. If you don't but want to want to have sex with someone of the same sex then why? There has to be some alternative reason to want to desire something you don't desire, or you are insane...
Uh no. That's as ridiculous as saying that if a pill makes asparagus taste good and I decide to take it then asparagus must have tasted good to me before. I'd hope people are able to think ahead and tell that while they might dislike something now if they take the pill they might enjoy it later and decide based off of this.
How about a pill that makes feces taste good then, or putrid animal carcass? Would you take a pill that makes you enjoy stabbing yourself in the face with a fork? How about a pill that makes it OK to kill people? you might like it later.

A chemically induced sexual experiment would require you already be curious unless the pill was forced on you.
Not at all. All those things have other downsides to them. Would it be so hard to be honest and not pick examples that have ethical downsides and health concerns?
You don't see an ethical downside with tampering with someones brain chemistry to induce a selected behavior? I would like to hear some ethical benefits to this Bi-sexual pill. Something better than "har har more sex for me lolz".
You do know the difference between ethical downside and lack of ethical benefit, yes? There does not need to be an ethical benefit to it. There is no ethical downside because someone is altering their own brain chemistry towards a specific purpose that is not harmful. Nowhere did I say there was an ethical benefit, I said there were ethical downsides to some of the things you made up.
So is there any benefit to this pill?
That depends on your point of view and what you want. If you want more possible sexual partners, yes.
Bi-sexuality does not inherently mean more possible sexual partners, you do realize that right? It would only make YOU interested in a wider range of sexual partners while probably shutting you off from other possibilities at the same time.

Now if it were a pill to swap your sex for 24 hours that might be more interesting.
Bi-sexuality does not inherently mean more possible sexual partners,
Yes it very obviously does. I can't comprehend the thought process behind that statement.

On top of what you previously had you have every bi and gay member of your own gender.

If you were gay your sexual partners go up by more than 900%
I cant comprehend your idea that Bi-sexual means that EVERYONE might sleep with you

And you would be excluding many strait people of the opposite sex who wouldn't want to sleep with a Bi-sexual, don't forget the Bi and gay population is not nearly as large as the hetero population. You would be gaining at most 3.5% and loosing how much of the 48%? You seem to be counting hetero people of the same sex which unless everyone took the pill you can't.
Why would you announce to some random hook up that you also like men?

And can you provide any actual statistics on people who will refuse to sleep with Bi-sexuals?

And if you mean relationships, I wouldn't date anyone homophobic, and I hope most of the people on this site wouldn't either so I'm not losing anything.

And my point about gay people still stands.
 
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Adeptus Aspartem said:
I don't get the "I like my sexuality" comments.

As far as i understand his premise you would still like your sexuality afterwards, it just makes you attracted to both instead of one gender.
So since the premise states no negative side-effects from the pill the only rational action would be taking the pill.

It nearly doubles the amount of people to have a sexy-time with.

Not taking the pill under his premise would be irrational.
1) "I like my sexuality" does not mean "I like girls" or "I like boys." It means "I like liking girls but not boys" and "I like liking boys but not girls."

2) The people who don't want the pill perceive becoming bisexual to BE a negative side effect.

3) No, it doesn't. You can have sex with anyone you can convice (or force, but that's rape so don't do that) to have sex with you. All this changes is whether you'll want/enjoy it.

4) It's not irrational because there's nothing rational about having sex with a more diverse group. It's arguably irrational, because widening your pool from which you take sexual partners widens the pool from which you take STDs.
4: It doesn't actually increase your probability of getting an STD assuming you actually use protection so that's largely irrelevant.

I don't think it's irrational to take the pill or not take the pill, it's basically a cost-benefit analysis and if you personally value the negative consequences of bisexuality as outweighing the benefits then it's rational not to do it.

I think people should stop throwing the word "irrational" around until they acquire a better understanding of rationality.

There are rational reasons to want to be Bi and rational reasons to not want be bi, any opinion unopposed by reality is correct and rational.
 

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Use_Imagination_here said:
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One of the most bizarre questions i've ever seen.

Short Answer, No.

Long Answer, why would i take a pill like that? Seriously if your GF found out you were taking a pill to make you bisexual she wouldn't exactly be happy about the long term state of your relationship. If your boyfriend who you met through using the pill found out that you'd need to pop a pill every day the rest of your life to stay in love with him, i doubt he'd be happy either.

You are what you are, why mess with it?
23% of poll answers at the moment are yes.

Are you actually saying something almost a quarter of people would want to do is one of the most bizarre questions you've ever seen?

Seriously if your GF found out you were taking a pill to make you bisexual she wouldn't exactly be happy about the long term state of your relationship. If your boyfriend who you met through using the pill found out that you'd need to pop a pill every day the rest of your life to stay in love with him, i doubt he'd be happy either.
The pill is permanent. I didn't say temporarily bisexual, this was fairly freaking obvious.

You are what you are, why mess with it?
Why NOT mess with it? This is a complete knee-jerk reaction, if you perceive a part of yourself as negative and would like to change it then as long as the thought process behind your reasons doesn't contradict with reality how is this anything except a rational decision?

If someone made you asexual while you were in a relationship you'd take the pill in heartbeat, because the benefits of taking the pill would outweigh the negative aspects of taking the pill.

And once we've established that there are perfectly valid reasons for taking it, any positive consequence is a valid reason for taking it, and it just becomes a cost-benefit analysis.

I'm not asking you to commit an atrocious act of self mutilation, I'm asking you to make a cost-benefit analysis. The human mind is not an untouchable bastion that never changes, you change yourself and the way you look at the world practically everyday.

Stop acting so bewildered.
22% is actually pretty low.

The only knee jerk reaction here is yours.

I gave an honest answer and you seem kinda butt hurt about it. Relax. I also have no idea where the self mutilation accusation is coming from, im guessing you feel under siege a little from all the other comments on the thread so your blood is up. Chill, im not out to get you.

Whats negative about being hetrosexual? Whats Negative about being Gay? Whats more positive about being bisexual? If you take this pill choose to be bisexual, fine thats your business but if you are looking for a potential life partner they may perceive you taking a life altering pill prior to or wanting to take the pill whilst in a relationship with them as an intention to cheat or a symptom of being a sex addict, or they may not. Thats the risk you take with people.

Im happy being a hetrosexual, other people are happy being gay, others again are happy being bisexual. A large part of the LGBT movement was allowing people to accept themselves for what they are, fantasizing about a bisexual pill for everyone seems a step backwards to that to me because its promoting artificial change instead of natural acceptance.
 

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No.

Maybe if you asked me when i was 14 and I really hated being atracted to my own gender because the kids at school made my life hell because of it. Being bi would mean I could be atracted to boys just like all the other girls in my class; I would have given anything to be "normal" then. Now I'm older and much more comfortable with who I am, and I live in a reasonably accepting part of the world so I don't feel any need to change that part of me.

Yeah I did say 14, not 10... I guess I was a late bloomer or something, but I wasn't even sexually curious at the age of 10, having sex or masturbating hadn't even crossed my mind... I had no idea that I was gay before 13-14 years of age...
 

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2012 Wont Happen said:
No because I live in Texas.

Use_Imagination_here said:
The problem is, EXPERIENCE is not a valid reason for denying it. If you know that after doing something, the consequences would be positive more then negative, then you SHOULD do that thing. What you feel now is irrelevant, OF COURSE you don't like basketball, you're not CAPABLE of liking basketball.

Why would anyone perceive that as a good thing?
I think you edited this in because I don't remember reading it when the thread was first up. Maybe it would be more positive than negative to someone else but what is at stake is your personal boundaries and values. I know I would instantly pass up on it because not only have I never had any interest in intimacy with a man, I wouldn't be very good at it even if this "opened my mind" to it. So net result is two pools of the populace that don't want to do the nasty with me and twice the desire. I'm in my prime right now and my body wants me to get to it. I don't need that to be multiplied to the point where I have to label it as another distraction I have to deal with while trying to get where I want to be in life. I can manage my current yearnings.

So yes. I've decided I'm incapable of having a sexual relationship with a man. That is a choice I've made and I'm thankful I live in a country where we are allowed to make choices like that. In my case it was easy because heterosexuality has been the socially accepted norm forever.

I see your logic. I just don't find it a valid reason for trying it.
 

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mrblakemiller said:
2) The people who don't want the pill perceive becoming bisexual to BE a negative side effect.
Point of order. As someone who voted 'no' I feel obliged to point out that I don't 'perceive becoming bisexual to BE a negative side effect'. I simply don't see it as an intrinsic gain. Realistically I'd be hard pressed to run out of potential mates with my current sexuality. Becoming bisexual may increase the size of my potential dating pool, but that's not a terribly big draw when my potential dating pool was already beyond my capacity to drain.

On the other side of the issue we have a simple question: Why should I even care about being attracted to more people? So I don't miss a 'Mr. Right' when I'm perfectly capable of finding a 'Ms. Right'? That logic simply doesn't fly with me and comes off as special pleading when used to justify a specific change for general purposes. "This guy would be perfect for you if you were into men" holds just as much water as "This woman would be perfect for you if you were into bondage". Ultimately, I'm not into those things so those people aren't right for me. That's not an issue of good trait/bad trait, it's simply a fact of life. And unless I actually trying to match a specific person (Say, hypothetically, I wanted to start a relationship with my best friend but was repulsed from the idea for one reason or another, under those circumstances taking a pill to better match them has some rationale behind it), changing myself in such a way is ultimately an exercise in futility because there are always going to people who would be 'right for me' if , and there are already people who are right for me with my existing preferences. Artificially changing myself to better match a hypothetical person just strikes me as stupid, especially when I can practically guarantee existing matches. Put simply: You make choices off of what is, not 'what ifs'.