- Aug 10, 2009
Hmmm. . . Patton or Churchill. . . what to do, what to do. "Battle is an orgy of disorder" vs. "If you're going through hell, keep going".
I would rather have him in a dark alley.BlastedTheWorm said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA8Uav7EPlQQuaxar said:Plus help out the good Duce fucking up in the south.joemegson94 said:I tell you who it wasn't: Hitler.
I think I'll fight two major powers on opposite fronts, as well as France. That'll end well.
I mean the guy managed to fuck up his own invasion of already-surrendered France. Plus Greece. Plus he lost Lybia to a British army a third the size of his.
Though I feel compelled to vote for him for his <url=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Mussolini-ggbain.jpg>kickass hat.
No german soldier ever set foot on the Isles. Where are you getting your history from?oliveira8 said:
I think it was a combination of commanders, resources, and strategy, as well, but I also think that sheer determination on the part of the Allies (particularly the USA) made it hard to stop us. When we discovered that our way of life might just get obliterated, the whole moral obligation factor comes in to play.FFHAuthor said:In the end, I don't think you can really claim that the war was decided by Generals or by armies, once Japan brought America into the war in the Pacific, the war was decided, just as when Germany brought Russia into the war in Europe, it was decided. Industry and resources won the war for the Allies. There were many opportunities for the Germans to win the war in Europe with a negotiated peace (Invade England, or even easier, destroy the BEF at Dunkirk and force a a negotiated end by England.) And the opportunity for the United States to completely avoid a war in the Pacific. (The Japanese were willing to negotiate a withdraw from China after the Oil and Steel embargo so long as token face saving measures could be taken.)
Yay! I can't avoid halfwit inbred morons anywhere can I? Weeee....ninja51 said:Id say honestly America. I know I know, America is a pretty shit country,
Fine fine. They tried to Invade Britain. They failed, so they wen to Russia.Valkyr71 said:No german soldier ever set foot on the Isles. Where are you getting your history from?oliveira8 said:
I don't want to be a dick, but (sic) doesn't really seem to belong here. It means 'such', and means that an error is directly copied from the original source of a quotation rather than any fault of the writer. The more you know, and such.SckizoBoy said:(esteemed (sic))
The Japs were egocentric, who had problems underestimating their opponents, hence beginning the war with America in the first place. Only one of their admirals actually had an understanding of American capabilities. And prior to that, with the war against Russia, they would have easily lost had it not been for the fact that Russia essentially went "Fuck it" and called it off before the sleeping bear could get moving.SFMB said:The Japs had a good idea: a surprise attack, like blitzkrieg, but with planes and navy. Though, they should have taken Hawaii and kept it. It was a mock war, with the most noble and fearless soldier on the front. Don't know any of their comanders, but Japan, as a whole almost conquired China, whitch is a big deal.
On a side note: McArthur was a complete maniac. He wanted to bomb Vietnam into oblivion with nukes, although the yanks we're losing the war already, as in vengeance.
It's hindsight bias. I can guarantee you that at the time, knowing what the Germans knew, invading Russia was a necessity. The two were allied through a "treaty" but were both ready to dish up some serious revenge. There is enough documentation and proof out there that clearly shows Russia weren't going to be passive with Germany for very long, and they were planning on making a push towards Germany regardless. And vice versa. They hated each other and they wanted to fight.TheIronRuler said:Definetly Germany.
The mistake was Invading Russia.
Because Russia was going to attack them if they didn't. Russia were slowly but surely reequipping their military and were just about ready to strike. Germany had to act first. The problem wasn't invading Russia, the problem was bad leadership and logistics errorsA Mad Monk 2 said:and why on earth did he attack russia when he did? huge mistake