Let's see, We are far more intelligent, we have far longer lifespans, if a pet dies, you just buy a new one, and being a stupid animal that it is, will love you just the same. You can't exactly buy a new mother or dad, or daughter etc. How is this even a question? You can try and justify it by saying you are selfish and do not give a fuck about morality. I'd rightfully call you a shitty human being, and further expand on this by saying not a single fuck would be given if you were to drop dead right now. The world needs less selfish assholes.jordanredd said:You did not answer my question.NotALiberal said:Because it's a human. That is the only rationale you need. Humans are intrinsically worth more. It's that fucking simple.
I realized that the poll question is poorly worded for the conclusions the OP is supposedly drawing from it. He seems to think those that answered "pet" would value a generic animal's life over a generic human's, but that's not what the results show. A better question to ask would be: "Would you save a strange dog's life or a strange human's life?"In Search of Username said:Because that would defeat the point of the thread? It's a hypothetical situation, not real life.imahobbit4062 said:Why can't I save both exactly? I have the swimming skills and the physically to save both if need be it. I can't save them at the same time? Why not?
Oh definitely. The person i was responding too said they would actively kill a person to save their pet outside this hypothetical scenario though, so i was responding to that. Failure to assist is definitely not direct murder.RhombusHatesYou said:Failure to render assistance is rarely considered murder. In most places you'd get manslaughter or causing-death-through-criminal-negligence (which is pretty much manslaughter again) at best (or worst, depending on your POV).
lolXartyve2 said:Depends on the race of the person.
No I'm totally joking. I'd save the stranger.
Please explain where I said I was a conservative. I hate them and their self righteousness too.GunsmithKitten said:SNIP
this, gotta take care of my own firstBathorysGraveland said:Well I can't swim, so I guess I'd yell for someone to help. My first instinct though if I COULD swim, would be to save my pet. I'm sorry, but people/things I care about come before things I don't.
Never mind, I'll wait for a response from someone who's a little less of a prick.NotALiberal said:Let's see, We are far more intelligent, we have far longer lifespans, if a pet dies, you just buy a new one, and being a stupid animal that it is, will love you just the same. You can't exactly buy a new mother or dad, or daughter etc. How is this even a question? You can try and justify it by saying you are selfish and do not give a fuck about morality. I'd rightfully call you a shitty human being, and further expand on this by saying not a single fuck would be given if you were to drop dead right now. The world needs less selfish assholes.
I'd like to think of my self as someone who uses logic as opposed to some arbitrary "left" and "right" standard. I'm what could be considered a "lefty" on some issues (like Gay Marriage), but more "moderate/conservative" on issues like gun control and abortion.GunsmithKitten said:*points at your name*NotALiberal said:Please explain where I said I was a conservative. I hate them and their self righteousness too.GunsmithKitten said:SNIP
Yes, I'm presuming, but I'm willing to hear a correction of this presumption if you have one.
The truth hurts doesn't it.jordanredd said:Never mind, I'll wait for a response from someone who's a little less of a prick.NotALiberal said:Let's see, We are far more intelligent, we have far longer lifespans, if a pet dies, you just buy a new one, and being a stupid animal that it is, will love you just the same. You can't exactly buy a new mother or dad, or daughter etc. How is this even a question? You can try and justify it by saying you are selfish and do not give a fuck about morality. I'd rightfully call you a shitty human being, and further expand on this by saying not a single fuck would be given if you were to drop dead right now. The world needs less selfish assholes.
Maybe you killed the previous owner of the magic button machine and are peforming a covert field test for potential buyers.BiscuitTrouser said:Those billions are being given out to people in 10 dollar clumps for shits and giggles. Maybe im the sociopath if im abusing technology like this...RhombusHatesYou said:Preference is bias... and that's not a hypotheticalBiscuitTrouser said:A binary solution to a hypthetical does more than confirm bias Red or blue? Whats your favourite colour out of those? It shows preference in a case of two options.
Yes you should, so I wouldn't recommend any field experiments until you get that sorted out.
Funny thing, though, is even people who put a moderate value on human life may very well perfom the exact same actions because the material worth of the magic button machine would probably be in the billions at the lowest.
Yeah but they're still confirming my biases to map data points. I did say that confirming biases was useless per se... Hell, it's only getting into shoddy territory when used for confirming the biases of the person(s) putting forward the hypothetical because it runs the very real risk of shaping information to fit pre-established conclusions. Which is why you should never trust polls and opinions.Anyway, lets say you win a contest and have to choose between these two cars, which one would you take and why?:
http://www.180sx.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/contributer-2/japshow-16.jpg
http://costablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/lamborghini_murcielago_1.jpg
That hypothetical told me a little about your taste in cars as did your explanation for why you picked one.
Hey, you asked for my opinion, I merely gave it. Truth be told, not a single tear would be shed over anyone who picked their stupid slobbering instinct driven beast, as opposed to a rational, sentient human being.jordanredd said:Never mind, I'll wait for a response from someone who's a little less of a prick.NotALiberal said:Let's see, We are far more intelligent, we have far longer lifespans, if a pet dies, you just buy a new one, and being a stupid animal that it is, will love you just the same. You can't exactly buy a new mother or dad, or daughter etc. How is this even a question? You can try and justify it by saying you are selfish and do not give a fuck about morality. I'd rightfully call you a shitty human being, and further expand on this by saying not a single fuck would be given if you were to drop dead right now. The world needs less selfish assholes.