Pornhub Traffic Dropped by 10% the Day Fallout 4 Came Out

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Pornhub Traffic Dropped by 10% the Day Fallout 4 Came Out



The world's largest porn site, Pornhub.com, reports a 10% drop in traffic the day Fallout 4 was released.

According to Pornhub, thousands of users left the porn site to play <a href="http://www.escapistmagazine.com/tag/view/fallout%204?os=fallout+4
">Fallout 4 for a day, leaving an empty, porn-apocalyptic wasteland in their wake.

Now, it's important to remember that correlation does not always imply causation. In this case, though, I think we can all let our rhetorical biases roam, just a little.

The free video site reported that traffic among gamers started to fall at 5 in the morning on November 10th, presumably once Bethesda's massive release had been downloaded and installed by all those going the digital route. The dip's nadir was 10%, day over day. Around 3 p.m., the numbers came back to normal; by dinner-time, gamers had once again left Pornhub's servers for the warm embrace of post-apocalyptic Boston.

Pornhub president, Corey Price, spoke to GamesBeat [http://venturebeat.com/2015/11/13/pornhubs-traffic-dipped-significantly-the-day-fallout-4-came-out/]: "We can't say we're too surprised with what happened to our traffic during peak gaming hours."

"Based on the data, it looks like a huge surge of people decided to indulge in some wasteland wandering by taking the day off of work and school to play, while the rest of the world had to wade through what we assume were the longest hours of work ever in anticipation of some alone time with their consoles."

You'd think the site is kicking itself over not adapting to a wrist-mounted, Pip-Boy interface, but you'd be wrong - they're pretty good sports about it. "As huge fans of the game, we can't say we blame anyone for swapping Pornhub time for some Pip-Boy surfing instead," says Price. "We would have done the same."

Can you blame gamers for choosing to play with their Codsworth and Dogmeat? Fallout 4 continues to be one of the most critically-praised [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/editorials/reviews/14910-Fallout-4-Review-Bethesda-s-Open-World-RPG-Apocalypse] and widely-played PC games ever. Steam has the concurrent user numbers topping at 400,000; Bethesday says they've sold at least 12 million copies already, and that number is bound to rise.

So far, neither Bethesda nor Pornhub have announced a partnership deal to produce a XXX parody of the game (Fallout Foreplay!), but I think we can safely assume one is in the works. Escapist readers: I need your hypothetical porn title puns!

Source: GamesBeat [http://venturebeat.com/2015/11/13/pornhubs-traffic-dipped-significantly-the-day-fallout-4-came-out/]


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RebornKusabi

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Alright I'll be the asshole and say it- we're all adults and we can talk like adults because it's just sex/porn and it isn't a big deal. As an AVID daily user of PornHub, I know I haven't been there since Fallout 4 released. I've been too busy shooting fools as Nora, the mother searching for her son unstuck in time and re-adjusting to her military past to survive in this new world.
 

NinjaDeathSlap

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Considering I've heard more than a few people proudly announce their intention to neglect their real-life sexual partners for the original plunge into Fallout 4, this is not in any way surprising. :D
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
Fallout: standing up too quickly after.

It might take a moment but you will say 'yuck.'
 

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Well, still haven't given enough of a damn too get back into a Fallout game just yet, but there was also Legacy of the Void on the same day to help contribute.
 

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Jadak said:
Worgen said:
Fallout: standing up too quickly after.

It might take a moment but you will say 'yuck.'
I don't get it, explain yourself.
If a woman stands too soon after the deed is done then things have a habit of dripping out of her.
 

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Worgen said:
Jadak said:
Worgen said:
Fallout: standing up too quickly after.

It might take a moment but you will say 'yuck.'
I don't get it, explain yourself.
If a woman stands too soon after the deed is done then things have a habit of dripping out of her.
Ah, gotcha. Too stuck in my male perspective for that to have made sense, makes very little difference on that end ;)

Although was also thinking in the context of masturbation, given the topic.
 

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I'd say I'm part of the statistic, butt I've done it since Fallout came out and I don't go to Pornhub. Cause you know, I like my videos to be longer than three minutes.
 

[Kira Must Die]

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Holy shit... I thought I was the only one not watching porn because of Fallout 4.

But it turns out a lot of people rather play Fallout than jerk off, unless they're jerking off while playing Fallout.
 

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Does this mean what I think it means? It does. Oh boy:
https://youtu.be/E0YAbuzyZMY?t=4m42s

Welp, now I have to buy it.
 

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[Kira Must Die said:
]But it turns out a lot of people rather play Fallout than jerk off, unless they're jerking off while playing Fallout.
Nah, the modders haven't had enough time to whip up a sex mod... yet!
 

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PatrickJS said:
Now, it's important to remember that correlation does not always imply causation.
This is the third time I've heard this in the past four days, and I'm starting to wonder if it's all some elaborate joke. Assuming it's not, let me state (not merely to Mister Sklar, but to everyone) unequivocally, now and forever, that correlation DOES imply causation, wholly and absolutely. If you touch the oven and burn your hand, that's a pretty strong implication that the oven is turned on. This might not be the case; the oven could be on fire, or it could have spontaneously turned into a portal to the furnace, or you could be suffering from unusually specific brain damage, but most likely, the oven's on, and the vastly higher likelihood of that first scenario relative to the other three means that the evidence pretty strongly points in that direction. What correlation does not is equal causation; burning your hand on the over does not prove that it is on, but it certainly does suggest it, which is all that "imply" really means.

For the sake of the future generations you do not wish to have travel back to today and kill you for your dictionary crimes, don't let "imply" become another "literally".

As to the news itself: does Fallout 4 not have a pause function?
 

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Recusant said:
unequivocally, now and forever, that correlation DOES imply causation, wholly and absolutely.
When they turned on the LHC, we started experience more earthquakes. That would suggest we can predict earthquakes, which we can't. Sorry, but you're wrong.
 
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Hochmeister said:
Nah, the modders haven't had enough time to whip up a sex mod... yet!
New Vegas didn't even need to rely on modders for that. Although, there was admittedly only the one pleasure bot
 

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Recusant said:
PatrickJS said:
Now, it's important to remember that correlation does not always imply causation.
This is the third time I've heard this in the past four days, and I'm starting to wonder if it's all some elaborate joke. Assuming it's not, let me state (not merely to Mister Sklar, but to everyone) unequivocally, now and forever, that correlation DOES imply causation, wholly and absolutely. If you touch the oven and burn your hand, that's a pretty strong implication that the oven is turned on. This might not be the case; the oven could be on fire, or it could have spontaneously turned into a portal to the furnace, or you could be suffering from unusually specific brain damage, but most likely, the oven's on, and the vastly higher likelihood of that first scenario relative to the other three means that the evidence pretty strongly points in that direction. What correlation does not is equal causation; burning your hand on the over does not prove that it is on, but it certainly does suggest it, which is all that "imply" really means.

For the sake of the future generations you do not wish to have travel back to today and kill you for your dictionary crimes, don't let "imply" become another "literally".

As to the news itself: does Fallout 4 not have a pause function?
The revenue from skiing facilities in USA and number of people who died from being tangled in bedsheets is 0.97 (perfect correlation would be 1.00). Are you saying one causes the other?

The word you're missing here is "always". Correlation is a good point to start when investigating a phenomenon, but it's far from the best. Alzheimer's disease is characterized by the accumulation of something called amyloid plaques in the brain and worse cases have shown a correlation with more plaque. Years of research (and probably billions) has gone into finding drugs that would reduce the amount of plaque. Recent discoveries indicate that amyloid plaque does not cause Alzheimer's disease and the drugs we've spent money and resources developing only treats a symptom. Correlation does not always imply causation. This is the danger of simplifying it to correlation = causation.

I can find countless of examples like this. If you want to correct someone, make sure that you're not far far far far FAR from being right.
 

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Worgen said:
Fallout: standing up too quickly after.

It might take a moment but you will say 'yuck.'
Actually, what I said was "brilliant."

infohippie said:
So... They're saying Fallout players are a bunch of wankers? :p
No, they WERE A bunch of wankers. That's what the article is about!
 

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Jokes on you, Pornhub! I was using the Hanster around that time, which made my wasteland a bit more snowy if I do say so myself...

Other than that, this does give a whole new context to the song "The Wanderer"... :p
 

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All I got out of this is that 90% of pornhubbers are not gamers. Or not dedicated, anyway.

Then, geezer that I am, had to figure out what pornhub was. Now back to Fallout 4.
 

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Yopaz said:
Recusant said:
PatrickJS said:
Now, it's important to remember that correlation does not always imply causation.
This is the third time I've heard this in the past four days, and I'm starting to wonder if it's all some elaborate joke. Assuming it's not, let me state (not merely to Mister Sklar, but to everyone) unequivocally, now and forever, that correlation DOES imply causation, wholly and absolutely. If you touch the oven and burn your hand, that's a pretty strong implication that the oven is turned on. This might not be the case; the oven could be on fire, or it could have spontaneously turned into a portal to the furnace, or you could be suffering from unusually specific brain damage, but most likely, the oven's on, and the vastly higher likelihood of that first scenario relative to the other three means that the evidence pretty strongly points in that direction. What correlation does not is equal causation; burning your hand on the over does not prove that it is on, but it certainly does suggest it, which is all that "imply" really means.

For the sake of the future generations you do not wish to have travel back to today and kill you for your dictionary crimes, don't let "imply" become another "literally".

As to the news itself: does Fallout 4 not have a pause function?
The revenue from skiing facilities in USA and number of people who died from being tangled in bedsheets is 0.97 (perfect correlation would be 1.00). Are you saying one causes the other?
Absolutely not. I'm saying that if you have two... aspects, let's call them aspects (as neither facility revenue nor number of bedsheet deaths can be called "events") that occur in rapid succession or bear the same results, this suggests (however tentatively and/or briefly) that there is a connection. It's not proof of one, it's not even evidence of one, but it is a suggestion.

Yopaz said:
The word you're missing here is "always". Correlation is a good point to start when investigating a phenomenon, but it's far from the best. Alzheimer's disease is characterized by the accumulation of something called amyloid plaques in the brain and worse cases have shown a correlation with more plaque. Years of research (and probably billions) has gone into finding drugs that would reduce the amount of plaque. Recent discoveries indicate that amyloid plaque does not cause Alzheimer's disease and the drugs we've spent money and resources developing only treats a symptom. Correlation does not always imply causation. This is the danger of simplifying it to correlation = causation.

I can find countless of examples like this. If you want to correct someone, make sure that you're not far far far far FAR from being right.
Likewise. Catch is, I'm completely right- though perhaps phrasing my point poorly. This is not a question (at least on my part) of the scientific method, or indeed of the fundamental nature of reality, but of semantics. "Equals" and "implies" are different words that mean different things. Moving from "correlation implies causation" to "correlation equals causation" is simplifying it ideologically, but not verbally; again, different words that mean different things. If you're looking for concrete proof of a link between two things and start from simple correlative grounds, the sheer number of seemingly random similarities will get you few positive results; I do not for an instant dispute this. Correlation does not equal causation. However, if you reverse the process and look for a correlation in aspects that cause other aspects, you will find a correlation rate of 100% (though not necessarily one that reveals itself with only a casual glance); aspects affect the things they effect. Or, to put it more succinctly, correlation implies causation.
 

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008Zulu said:
Recusant said:
unequivocally, now and forever, that correlation DOES imply causation, wholly and absolutely.
When they turned on the LHC, we started experience more earthquakes. That would suggest we can predict earthquakes, which we can't. Sorry, but you're wrong.
Turning on the LHC and experiencing more earthquakes wouldn't suggest that we could predict them; it would suggest that turning on the LHC causes them. Sorry, but I'm right.
 

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Recusant said:
Yopaz said:
Recusant said:
PatrickJS said:
Now, it's important to remember that correlation does not always imply causation.
This is the third time I've heard this in the past four days, and I'm starting to wonder if it's all some elaborate joke. Assuming it's not, let me state (not merely to Mister Sklar, but to everyone) unequivocally, now and forever, that correlation DOES imply causation, wholly and absolutely. If you touch the oven and burn your hand, that's a pretty strong implication that the oven is turned on. This might not be the case; the oven could be on fire, or it could have spontaneously turned into a portal to the furnace, or you could be suffering from unusually specific brain damage, but most likely, the oven's on, and the vastly higher likelihood of that first scenario relative to the other three means that the evidence pretty strongly points in that direction. What correlation does not is equal causation; burning your hand on the over does not prove that it is on, but it certainly does suggest it, which is all that "imply" really means.

For the sake of the future generations you do not wish to have travel back to today and kill you for your dictionary crimes, don't let "imply" become another "literally".

As to the news itself: does Fallout 4 not have a pause function?
The revenue from skiing facilities in USA and number of people who died from being tangled in bedsheets is 0.97 (perfect correlation would be 1.00). Are you saying one causes the other?
Absolutely not. I'm saying that if you have two... aspects, let's call them aspects (as neither facility revenue nor number of bedsheet deaths can be called "events") that occur in rapid succession or bear the same results, this suggests (however tentatively and/or briefly) that there is a connection. It's not proof of one, it's not even evidence of one, but it is a suggestion.

Yopaz said:
The word you're missing here is "always". Correlation is a good point to start when investigating a phenomenon, but it's far from the best. Alzheimer's disease is characterized by the accumulation of something called amyloid plaques in the brain and worse cases have shown a correlation with more plaque. Years of research (and probably billions) has gone into finding drugs that would reduce the amount of plaque. Recent discoveries indicate that amyloid plaque does not cause Alzheimer's disease and the drugs we've spent money and resources developing only treats a symptom. Correlation does not always imply causation. This is the danger of simplifying it to correlation = causation.

I can find countless of examples like this. If you want to correct someone, make sure that you're not far far far far FAR from being right.
Likewise. Catch is, I'm completely right- though perhaps phrasing my point poorly. This is not a question (at least on my part) of the scientific method, or indeed of the fundamental nature of reality, but of semantics. "Equals" and "implies" are different words that mean different things. Moving from "correlation implies causation" to "correlation equals causation" is simplifying it ideologically, but not verbally; again, different words that mean different things. If you're looking for concrete proof of a link between two things and start from simple correlative grounds, the sheer number of seemingly random similarities will get you few positive results; I do not for an instant dispute this. Correlation does not equal causation. However, if you reverse the process and look for a correlation in aspects that cause other aspects, you will find a correlation rate of 100% (though not necessarily one that reveals itself with only a casual glance); aspects affect the things they effect. Or, to put it more succinctly, correlation implies causation.
If you go back and read the part you quoted he said it doesn't ALWAYS imply causation. Revenue from skiing facilities and deaths by bedsheets... does it imply causation or does it seem completely random? If it does, explain how it implies causation because if you are right and the article is wrong it ALWAYS implies causation.

Edit: I also mentioned other things. There is a negative correlation between number of sea pirates and tsunamis. Does that imply causation in any way? It's fine to admit that you're wrong and be over with it rather than make yourself even more wrong. You are so clearly wrong. I have given you an example of things completely unconnected from each other that have a near perfect correlation. Only by stretching credulity can we start to imply causation. It doesn't imply causation if we have to make up a scenario after seeing a correlation.
 

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Just wait til some adult companies decide to combine the two together given to the amount of rule 34 of Fallout there is in general.

Guess it shows people would rather played a new game than to go to that site in general.
 

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Recusant said:
For the sake of the future generations you do not wish to have travel back to today and kill you for your dictionary crimes, don't let "imply" become another "literally".
Actually you have this slightly backwards. The phrase "correlation does not imply causation" is an old one grounded in statistics where the word "imply" has the meaning "to involve as a necessary circumstance" Removing that meaning of the word imply would be a corruption of language.
 

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Recusant said:
Turning on the LHC and experiencing more earthquakes wouldn't suggest that we could predict them; it would suggest that turning on the LHC causes them. Sorry, but I'm right.
You do know we experienced earthquakes before the LHC was turned on yeah?
 

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I'm guessing here but when there's a major sport event on tv the traffic on Pornhub will also drop or when the new Star Wars movies come out.
Honestly i dont know why someone even bothered to research this or why is it even "news" unless such thing only happens due to Fallout 4.
 

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Isn't this what dual monitors are for?

Elfgore said:
I'd say I'm part of the statistic, butt I've done it since Fallout came out and I don't go to Pornhub. Cause you know, I like my videos to be longer than three minutes.
Okay Mr. Four Minutes. No need to brag.
 
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Elfgore said:
I like my videos to be longer than three minutes.

...why? It's not you last that long anyways :D


OT: Not surprised, they probably just doubled up the next day on the fapping...

*not like I'd know or anything*
 

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Elfgore said:
I'd say I'm part of the statistic, butt I've done it since Fallout came out and I don't go to Pornhub. Cause you know, I like my videos to be longer than three minutes.
Back in my day all we had were dirty magazines. AND WE LIKED IT.!
 

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Lufia Erim said:
Elfgore said:
I'd say I'm part of the statistic, butt I've done it since Fallout came out and I don't go to Pornhub. Cause you know, I like my videos to be longer than three minutes.
Back in my dad all we had were dirty magazines. AND WE LIKED IT.!
Please tell me that was a typo.
 

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camazotz said:
Lufia Erim said:
Elfgore said:
I'd say I'm part of the statistic, butt I've done it since Fallout came out and I don't go to Pornhub. Cause you know, I like my videos to be longer than three minutes.

Back in my dad all we had were dirty magazines. AND WE LIKED IT.!
Please tell me that was a typo.
whoops. That's what i get for trying to write a post in betweem CoD matches.

EDIT: Man im full of fails today
 

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So what you're saying is...Fallout fans are chronic masterbaters?

Good to know!

I wonder what the numbers are on Pornhub traffic during, say, a Call of Duty release. Or maybe during the release of Halo 5, Mass Effect 3, or some other major release. Or even a major sporting event like the Super Bowl, the final of the World Cup, or a LoL/Dota tournament (keeping it gaming related). I'm curious what sort of events cause big swings in user traffic and which barely cause a stir.

Gatlank said:
Honestly i dont know why someone even bothered to research this
Because the laundry list of issues and game-breaking bugs continues to grow, so they're running out of reasons to praise the game.[footnote]Yes, I'm being a dick. No, I'm only partly being serious. ;D[/footnote]
 

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Recusant said:
Likewise. Catch is, I'm completely right- though perhaps phrasing my point poorly. This is not a question (at least on my part) of the scientific method, or indeed of the fundamental nature of reality, but of semantics. "Equals" and "implies" are different words that mean different things. Moving from "correlation implies causation" to "correlation equals causation" is simplifying it ideologically, but not verbally; again, different words that mean different things. If you're looking for concrete proof of a link between two things and start from simple correlative grounds, the sheer number of seemingly random similarities will get you few positive results; I do not for an instant dispute this. Correlation does not equal causation. However, if you reverse the process and look for a correlation in aspects that cause other aspects, you will find a correlation rate of 100% (though not necessarily one that reveals itself with only a casual glance); aspects affect the things they effect. Or, to put it more succinctly, correlation implies causation.
I think I see your confusion. You're using the English vernacular meaning of the word "implies" as a synonym of "suggests". But when people use the phrase "correlation doesn't imply causation", they're using the mathematical definition of the word. In math, if I say that A implies B, I mean that if A is true, then so is B.

So mathematically, saying that correlation implies causation is akin to saying that if two things are correlated, then they must share a causal relationship. This is clearly false, as other posters have demonstrated (remember, it only takes one counterexample to demonstrate something to be false). Since it is possible to be correlated without being causally related, mathematically, saying that correlation implies causation is simply wrong.
 

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wait, Pornhub is the largest porn site? how does one of the worst porn sites become the largest?

008Zulu said:
Recusant said:
Turning on the LHC and experiencing more earthquakes wouldn't suggest that we could predict them; it would suggest that turning on the LHC causes them. Sorry, but I'm right.
You do know we experienced earthquakes before the LHC was turned on yeah?
people were watching porn before Fallout 4 was released too....
 

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Pffffft...noobs and casuals, every one of them. Just get two monitors and masturbate while you play!

:3
 

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Kid's these days, just can't multitask. Though... with the appropriate mods I can't justifiably say that they were necessarily leaving porn behind while playing FO4...
 

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Could be linked of course to the fact that footage of the Fallout 4 Demo from QuakeCon was leaked on Pornhub.
 

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See India, you don't need to ban porn. You just need to make an awesome game.

Before anyone yells at me, it's a joke about when India tried to ban porn earlier this year
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
ArcaneGamer said:
Worgen said:
Jadak said:
Worgen said:
Fallout: standing up too quickly after.

It might take a moment but you will say 'yuck.'
I don't get it, explain yourself.
If a woman stands too soon after the deed is done then things have a habit of dripping out of her.
I've heard worse. MUCH worse. Try again.
Very well. How about Fallout: [censored][censored] game box[censored] dripping [censored] [censored] Episcopalian.
 

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RebornKusabi said:
Alright I'll be the asshole and say it- we're all adults and we can talk like adults because it's just sex/porn and it isn't a big deal. As an AVID daily user of PornHub, I know I haven't been there since Fallout 4 released. I've been too busy shooting fools as Nora, the mother searching for her son unstuck in time and re-adjusting to her military past to survive in this new world.
Just wanted to mention something. I'm pretty sure that only the husband had a military background. If you chose to be female, you were said to have a law degree.

Oh right, this was supposed to be about porn.
 

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Worgen said:
ArcaneGamer said:
Worgen said:
Jadak said:
Worgen said:
Fallout: standing up too quickly after.

It might take a moment but you will say 'yuck.'
I don't get it, explain yourself.
If a woman stands too soon after the deed is done then things have a habit of dripping out of her.
I've heard worse. MUCH worse. Try again.
Very well. How about Fallout: [censored][censored] game box[censored] [censored] [censored] sesquipedalian loquaciousness.
I have a different idea. People that play the PC version of Bethesda games are aware of the debug room, or treasure room, right? Also, they might have heard of the "giveitem" command on the "console" of it, right? Why not have someone attempt to hookup a keyboard to a console (like say, a PS4 or Xbox One), and try to access the "console" from there? Has it ever been attempted before? I'm curious.