Prima Game Guides. DLC specifically AND WHY THERE ISNT ANY :(

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shinatomaster

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hello fellow escapists. im a serious kind of gamer, especially when it comes to my Elder Scrolls and Fallout titles. and as such i have the official Prima guides. completion yo ;) anyway, i understand that there is a game of the year version of the fallout 3 prima guide, but not for new vegas. i havent got the FO3 game of the year guide because i got the hardcover collectors edition when it first came out, but i was seriously gunning for the new vegas ultimate edition guide. and there will be none according to prima. this makes me pretty mad. bro. my question is FUCKING WHY. they could just release a DLC addendum, i would pay $25 for another smaller book with just the DLC content in it, but they love to squeeze more money out of people by making you rebuy the entire guide again like with the fallout 3 one, but they havent even done that this time. i think its half assed and kinda insulting. fuck you prima, give me my DLC guide :(
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DoPo

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Buzz Killington said:
I think the bigger question here is why you're using Prima guides when the Internet exists.
The best question, really. I was going to ask another - who uses the overpriced Prima guides but I realised OP does, so...yeah. Why? Aren't they...erm, overpriced? Seeing as you can get the same knowledge for free also, it could be quite more extensive and more up to date, not to mention at least as convenient as the guide itself, it certainly seems so.
 

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Mr.Tea said:
In a world where Wikia and GameFAQs exist, your complaint sounds unnecessary at best and downright stupid at worst. Those printed game guides are a relic from a time when we didn't have instant access to millions of other players' knowledge of the games they've played, rendering them 100% obsolete and a total waste of any sum of money.

Speaking of money, you'd pay TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS (when FO:NV Ultimate edition is 40$) for a game guide??
No.
You are going to click on the following link right now and arrive in 2012: On this site [http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Fallout:_New_Vegas] you will find pages for every character, every area, every quest, every item, every creature and every game mechanic for every single fallout game and DLC content released to date. You are welcome.
*clicks links *

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It's just not the same :(

OT: That's a good idea . The only problem is with patches that come out prior to dlc and the dlc guide .
 

shinatomaster

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well, i grab the prima guides because i have a room in my house dedicated to gaming, on the shelves i have collections of gaming memorabelia and other things, anyway, right behind my fallout collectors edition with the lunchbox and art book, is the hardcover game guide. also, if i enjoy something a lot i like to show my appreciation by actually spending some of my money, its also good having a book on your lap with everything in it, with a special map, not to mention the fact that i can lend it to my friends. also, alt tabbing out of a heavily modded game repeatedly so you can check a website on the exact location of that skill book or unique wep, isnt too great of an idea, because of stability. anyway moving along from that, why i would spend $25 on a DLC guide? here in australia to buy a new game from the shelf in gamestop is $120...... so $25 on one of my favourite games isnt too much of a ball buster.
 

Tom_green_day

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I can understand why you'd want a hard copy. Anything relating to the game IRL is great if you like the game.
I just think that DLC packs are usually insubstantial to have a whole book off of. Fallout New Vegas is an exception as Old World Blues and Honest Hearts are fairly large, but the other two are much smaller. For most games though the DLC just doesn't add a whole amount to the game, like Fallout 3 (save Broken Steel) and the current Skyrim DLCs.
Also, it isn't a F:NV book unless it crashes. Which books don't do.
 

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I get the wanting the hard copy as memorabilia/collectables stance...

But I then dont get why you need the updated one with the extra bits. I mean you've paid for one, it looks great on your shelf, you can flick through it. Now just use the internet for those extra bits.
 

Little Gray

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Mr.Tea said:
In a world where Wikia and GameFAQs exist, your complaint sounds unnecessary at best and downright stupid at worst. Those printed game guides are a relic from a time when we didn't have instant access to millions of other players' knowledge of the games they've played, rendering them 100% obsolete and a total waste of any sum of money.

Speaking of money, you'd pay TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS (when FO:NV Ultimate edition is 40$) for a game guide??
No.
You are going to click on the following link right now and arrive in 2012: On this site [http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Fallout:_New_Vegas] you will find pages for every character, every area, every quest, every item, every creature and every game mechanic for every single fallout game and DLC content released to date. You are welcome.
I would rather pay twenty five dollars to be able to flip through a book when I want to look up something rather then having to get up go into a different room and turn on my computer to look something up. Its really an irrelevant amount of money and having the book is extremely convenient.
 

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Alright, the only reason why I have those guides is because I work at GS and we get them for free once they get pennied out. Yeah, we also get the collector's edition guides pennied out at some point.

The reason? No one buys them anymore! Fallout, The Old Republic, Zelda, and so on. They all had some pretty good hardcover guides, some with really good artwork (If you're into that, like me) and yet no one buys them. It's a pity but...at the same time, I understand why no one does that. We got the internet, we don't need to spend $20 for a guide when you can get the same basic information online for free. And yeah, having your book next to you as you play in convenient but hey, who doesn't have access to the internet nowadays, especially when gaming?

Some people are still into that but, like I said, I can see why most people just don't buy guides anymore.
 

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Oh, I love buying guides. I have the Skyrim guide, both Batman guides, Final Fantasy VII, VIII, X, X-2, XIII, XIII-2, some Resident Evil guides, Kingdoms of Alumar: Reckoning, and Alan Wake just to name a few. I think they all look very nice on my shelf.
Also, I like the feeling of having something in my hand, flipping through the pages. It's also easier for me to find stuff in the guide than to search the internet because a lot of the time people on the internet don't give me the details I want.
Also, my consoles are in my bedroom and my computer is in my den. It's rather annoying to pause the game, get up, walk down the hall, turn on the computer, wait for it to boot up, go to google, search for whatever I want, remember the exact steps/locations, walk back and un-pause the game. So much easier to just flip a book open.
 

Doom972

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There's a very small consumer base for those guides, and I guess it's not profitable to produce them. With sites like GameFAQs, Game Banshee and Wikia (Steam just launched a user-made guide service BTW), I don't see any need for them other than as collectors' items.

Little Gray said:
I would rather pay twenty five dollars to be able to flip through a book when I want to look up something rather then having to get up go into a different room and turn on my computer to look something up. Its really an irrelevant amount of money and having the book is extremely convenient.
When gaming on a PC you can always use Alt+Tab to minimize the game and look for help online, and on Steam you can use the Steam UI from within the game.
If you can't/won't do that or you are using a console, there's always the option of using a smartphone, tablet or a laptop.
If you have none of those options, you can do what I did back when using the internet was slow and expensive: find the guide on GameFAQs (which are always printer friendly, since they use simple text), and print it.

You don't have to do any of that, but that's what most gamers would do, and that's why I doubt we'll see those guides making a come-back. Personally, I never liked the idea of paying extra money to be able to get everything the game has to offer.
 

shinatomaster

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up until recently games in EB and JB were that expensive, id say there has been a price REDUCTION in the last year, especially on PC titles, because retailers are finally having to respond to digital distribution, on launch, in EB, farcry 3 was $110 for the consoles and 90 or 100 for the PC. i bought FO:NV on launch for my Xbox with the collectors edition canteen yada yada for $120 maybe 130, was a while ago, i dont remember, i got NV in the 2011 quakecon pack on steam, evened out to like $4 with the other 70 games i got in it. point is im used to paying a lot so the pricepoint doesnt matter, im used to gaming being a luxury, and now i dont even buy console games unless its an exclusive, cause i have a great PC while loving the fact that i can pay for the humble bundles and sales on steam, now that i have my own credit card. it IS for the collections sake, but its also just for the principal, prima markets itself as the best guide business, and yet they have responded to requests for a DLC guide or ultimate guide (as they have done with previous titles) with a confirmation that they just will not. poor form?
 

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Doom972 said:
When gaming on a PC you can always use Alt+Tab to minimize the game and look for help online, and on Steam you can use the Steam UI from within the game.
If you can't/won't do that or you are using a console, there's always the option of using a smartphone, tablet or a laptop.
If you have none of those options, you can do what I did back when using the internet was slow and expensive: find the guide on GameFAQs (which are always printer friendly, since they use simple text), and print it.

You don't have to do any of that, but that's what most gamers would do, and that's why I doubt we'll see those guides making a come-back. Personally, I never liked the idea of paying extra money to be able to get everything the game has to offer.
Why bother quote me if you are not going to say anything useful?
 

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Little Gray said:
Doom972 said:
When gaming on a PC you can always use Alt+Tab to minimize the game and look for help online, and on Steam you can use the Steam UI from within the game.
If you can't/won't do that or you are using a console, there's always the option of using a smartphone, tablet or a laptop.
If you have none of those options, you can do what I did back when using the internet was slow and expensive: find the guide on GameFAQs (which are always printer friendly, since they use simple text), and print it.

You don't have to do any of that, but that's what most gamers would do, and that's why I doubt we'll see those guides making a come-back. Personally, I never liked the idea of paying extra money to be able to get everything the game has to offer.
Why bother quote me if you are not going to say anything useful?
You said that you can't access an online game guide without leaving the room in which you are playing, so I suggested ways in which it could be accomplish. If you don't find that useful, too bad for you. Also, your reply to my reply didn't contribute much to the thread, and is just insulting.