Progressives win control of Nevada Democrat party, centrists throw hissy fit

crimson5pheonix

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Nevada recently had party elections between the centrist machine set up by Harry Reid and an incoming progressive coalition and grassroots movement. The centrists spent this entire cycle screeching for unity and trying to make the progressives sound divisive.

Unsurprisingly the progressives won in a clean sweep, fully taking the party. That "fully" is pretty darn fully as the day after they won, the unity Dems all quit, taking severance pay after funneling as much money out of the party as they could to hobble the incoming progressives, because they're snakes.

So the progressives have scored yet another major victory in the political game, but centrists are once again showing they would burn down their own house if progressives had a voice in it.

For unity, I'm sure.
 

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Unity only counts when Corporate Democrats get to Unite with Republicans since they both want the same thing. There is no Unity when Corporate Democrats have to unite with people who might make Corporations and Rich People make a little less than all of the money...
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
I suppose we shall see if they can win.
 

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Was the $450k for severence? I thought they were just embezzling
They handed it to the national party. On the excuse that it's for their centrist candidate for their next reelection.

It is, however, definitely soft embezzlement. The severance checks are separate.
 
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Nevada recently had party elections between the centrist machine set up by Harry Reid and an incoming progressive coalition and grassroots movement. The centrists spent this entire cycle screeching for unity and trying to make the progressives sound divisive.

Unsurprisingly the progressives won in a clean sweep, fully taking the party. That "fully" is pretty darn fully as the day after they won, the unity Dems all quit, taking severance pay after funneling as much money out of the party as they could to hobble the incoming progressives, because they're snakes.

So the progressives have scored yet another major victory in the political game, but centrists are once again showing they would burn down their own house if progressives had a voice in it.

For unity, I'm sure.
This is a great way for progressives to make their voices heard. All I hope is that the new Nevada party leaders don't overestimate the popularity of progressive ideas in the general voter population compared to Democratic party members. This is the first state party, that I know about at least, that has had this type of "takeover", so it'll be used as a litmus (good or bad) going forward.
 

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This is a great way for progressives to make their voices heard. All I hope is that the new Nevada party leaders don't overestimate the popularity of progressive ideas in the general voter population compared to Democratic party members. This is the first state party, that I know about at least, that has had this type of "takeover", so it'll be used as a litmus (good or bad) going forward.
I hope all the expats don't take the money they took from the state party and use it to overfund some centrist who will go on to lose, then blame it on the progressives.
 

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I hope all the expats don't take the money they took from the state party and use it to overfund some centrist who will go on to lose, then blame it on the progressives.
That’s exactly what’s going to happen, given they do this even with more moderate state parties already if they wind up supporting a candidate that’s “too radical.”
 

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The centrist will find another way, maybe run as independents. Call me when NY, and CA fall.
 

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I hope all the expats don't take the money they took from the state party and use it to overfund some centrist who will go on to lose, then blame it on the progressives.
You might as well ask a fish to not swim or a bird to not fly or for Biden to make fundamental changes...

It's ALWAYS The Progressives fault. It's not that they're a bunch of shitlibs that don't do a thing to help people, it's those pesky Progressives and their mangy dog ruining their plans!!!
 

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It's ALWAYS The Progressives fault. It's not that they're a bunch of shitlibs that don't do a thing to help people, it's those pesky Progressives and their mangy dog ruining their plans!!!
I really hope you realize how this could easily be turned around for centrists too. There's progressives who would rather have a Republican senator (and therefore hand control of the senate back to McConnell and Co) than Joe Manchin. There's also accelerationist progressives who, if they don't get 100% of what their policy proposals immediately implemented, advocate for literally burning society to the ground out of the naive idea that a socialist utopia would magically and instantaneously spring up out of the ashes.

"It's ALWAYS The Establishment's fault. It's not that they're a bunch of radical fantasizers that believe in proposals not based in reality , it's those pesky centrists and their mangy dog ruining their plans!!!"

Now I'd hope we're all aware that the moderate Dems hold more blame here, but rhetoric that does nothing but make you feel righteous comes across a little hypocritical when it can easily be applied to right back at one's own group.
 
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I really hope you realize how this could easily be turned around for centrists too. There's progressives who would rather have a Republican senator (and therefore hand control of the senate back to McConnell and Co) than Joe Manchin. There's also accelerationist progressives who, if they don't get 100% of what their policy proposals immediately implemented, advocate for literally burning society to the ground out of the naive idea that a socialist utopia would magically and instantaneously spring up out of the ashes.

"It's ALWAYS The Establishment's fault. It's not that they're a bunch of radical fantasizers that believe in proposals not based in reality , it's those pesky centrists and their mangy dog ruining their plans!!!"

Now I'd hope we're all aware that the moderate Dems hold more blame here, but rhetoric that does nothing but make you feel righteous comes across a little hypocritical when it can easily be applied to right back at one's own group.
But that's the flip here. Quite literally the centrists ran a purity test on their own party, then picked up their ball and did their best to sabotage their own party. All that rhetoric that the rational center has tried to throw at progressives has just been painted by their own party leaders, instead of the no name voters who don't owe anybody anything.
 

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Now I'd hope we're all aware that the moderate Dems hold more blame here, but rhetoric that does nothing but make you feel righteous comes across a little hypocritical when it can easily be applied to right back at one's own group.
inaccurately.
 
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I really hope you realize how this could easily be turned around for centrists too. There's progressives who would rather have a Republican senator (and therefore hand control of the senate back to McConnell and Co) than Joe Manchin. There's also accelerationist progressives who, if they don't get 100% of what their policy proposals immediately implemented, advocate for literally burning society to the ground out of the naive idea that a socialist utopia would magically and instantaneously spring up out of the ashes.

"It's ALWAYS The Establishment's fault. It's not that they're a bunch of radical fantasizers that believe in proposals not based in reality , it's those pesky centrists and their mangy dog ruining their plans!!!"

Now I'd hope we're all aware that the moderate Dems hold more blame here, but rhetoric that does nothing but make you feel righteous comes across a little hypocritical when it can easily be applied to right back at one's own group.
On top of what Crimson and Sean have already stated, this is also nonsense because none of these Accelerist People are people in actual power who are actively finding ways to fuck everything up to get their way (unlike Moderate Democrats who stack the deck against anyone who even looks like they might possibly be a potential threat against The Rich or Corporations making slightly less than all of the money).

Once some of these people are in actual power actively fucking with people's lives instead of just being random unhappy voters, then maybe you'd have a point...
 

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According to AP, the loser of the Nevada vote was also a Bernie-supporting progressive. Albeit one must suspect, more tolerable to the centreists.
 

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But that's the flip here. Quite literally the centrists ran a purity test on their own party, then picked up their ball and did their best to sabotage their own party. All that rhetoric that the rational center has tried to throw at progressives has just been painted by their own party leaders, instead of the no name voters who don't owe anybody anything.
I mean it's literally what's happened every election cycle since George McGovern (AKA, the point the Democrats started consistently losing), but we can't have any disruption to the self-sustaining cliche that any time Democrats lose it's exclusively because of the left and the only answer is to move further right, now can we.