PS3 "Jailbreak" Tool Proves So Popular It Sells Out

[RicoADF]

So, why don't Sony just sue the company? Especially since they haven't exactly hidden their name.

It's legal to use jailbreak to copy a legit game you own to the harddrive to play, its illegal to do so if you don't own the game. It's what the user does that determines weather its legal or not, just like a car can be used in a legal or illegal manner.

 

[moxpearl]

If you download games you never paid for its no different than walking into a store and stealing a TV.

If you can't understand that I pity your upbringing.

But you won't get caught - no FBI agents will come kicking in your door. So go nuts. It just proves that ones true character comes out when no one is watching.

In the end it will do nothing but hurt what games come out.


Next gen = digital distribution gaming systems. IE - you HAVE to pay for it - and you will also enjoy neat things like - never owning anything - having to accept any game changes - terms the software makers give you - possible monthly charges because the software makers are having to keep servers up for your game system to check into.

There is no way past it. Next gen or for sure or the one after it - You won't own anything. Hell I can see Sony or MS on their next gen doing a monthly fee service - you won't actually own any games or even the console. MS or Sony will. You are just renting it from them. IMO - its the only way to go for them at this point. In the end the gamers who pirate are the ones causing it.

You fail hard if you believe that copyright infringement and theft is the same thing.. they are NOT.. and the law clearly defines this.

So I pity YOUR upbringing.

 

[Pendragon9]

Even though it's technically legal, it'll be funny when Sony bans anyone who uses one of these.

I am personally not a fan of pirating myself.

 

[Gladion]

[quote="ionveau" post="7.227681.7851719"Anyway, most gamers are kids so how should a kid get money? get a job? ok sure

get a job->Unable to study for school->Get bad marks->fail->get bad job->have kid->kid cant buy games->kid gets job->


God bless you, God bless you i hope everyone is as well behaved as you are[/quote]
GOOD LORD are you serious?

Sorry, but this "games not being free is ruining our lives"-argument is ridiculous.

 

[theultimateend]

Oh wow. I guess a they're having lots of fun doing this. So much money for a dongle.

Calumon: Dingle Dangle Dongle Tingle!

It has a timing thing in it to inject at the right...well time.

Still expensive.

I just wish Sony would release a function where I could play my games off the hard drive without keeping the disc in the system.

Why?

Well convenience. I don't care if 90k people quote me and say "You mean piracy." The reality for >me< is that on the Wii I have it cracked and every single game I own is on an external drive. Most of my favorite titles are there own channels. It is so simple that my fiance can get into her favorite titles like Wii Sports Resort in a matter of seconds.

I realize that folks do this to pirate. But it is really damn convenient for those of us that don't.

Companies should make some sort of holographic print for there cases, or unique CD Keys, so that I can register my games like I do on steam or impulse and can then play from my PS3 without needing the disc in all the time.

I'd be hard pressed to believe that it would load slower on the drive too.

If you download games you never paid for its no different than walking into a store and stealing a TV.

If you can't understand that I pity your upbringing.

No it isn't. Go to school.

I'm not a fan and I don't support it but that's almost as uninformed as the "reefer madness" nonsense that...actually didn't that come from Texas too?

If televisions could be replicated instantly from materials you have in your own home, then yes it would be the same thing.

But they can't be. If you steal a television that television can never be sold. It is literally lost revenue.

The very misinformed view that each pirated game is a sale lost is going to get you nowhere because you are just knocking down straw men.

However this discussion has been made ad nauseum on this website and if folks are still that ignorant about it then it's not something that is worth discussing further (beyond my next very simple point).

If piracy was the same as theft then defeating piracy would have the same return financially as defeating theft.

It doesn't, ergo they aren't the same.

"No Different" or "The Same" is an extremely powerful statement. Make it only after you've actually researched the topic at hand.

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I feel if a game isn't worth my money, it is also not worth my time. Anyone who feels like pirating games should really examine books, you can read a good book for the fraction of the cost of a shitty game.

 

[saber152]

Oh wow. I guess a they're having lots of fun doing this. So much money for a dongle.

Calumon: Dingle Dangle Dongle Tingle!

It has a timing thing in it to inject at the right...well time.

Still expensive.

I just wish Sony would release a function where I could play my games off the hard drive without keeping the disc in the system.

Why?

Well convenience. I don't care if 90k people quote me and say "You mean piracy." The reality for >me< is that on the Wii I have it cracked and every single game I own is on an external drive. Most of my favorite titles are there own channels. It is so simple that my fiance can get into her favorite titles like Wii Sports Resort in a matter of seconds.

I realize that folks do this to pirate. But it is really damn convenient for those of us that don't.

Companies should make some sort of holographic print for there cases, or unique CD Keys, so that I can register my games like I do on steam or impulse and can then play from my PS3 without needing the disc in all the time.

I'd be hard pressed to believe that it would load slower on the drive too.

If you download games you never paid for its no different than walking into a store and stealing a TV.

If you can't understand that I pity your upbringing.

No it isn't. Go to school.

I'm not a fan and I don't support it but that's almost as uninformed as the "reefer madness" nonsense that...actually didn't that come from Texas too?

If televisions could be replicated instantly from materials you have in your own home, then yes it would be the same thing.

But they can't be. If you steal a television that television can never be sold. It is literally lost revenue.

The very misinformed view that each pirated game is a sale lost is going to get you nowhere because you are just knocking down straw men.

However this discussion has been made ad nauseum on this website and if folks are still that ignorant about it then it's not something that is worth discussing further (beyond my next very simple point).

If piracy was the same as theft then defeating piracy would have the same return financially as defeating theft.

It doesn't, ergo they aren't the same.

"No Different" or "The Same" is an extremely powerful statement. Make it only after you've actually researched the topic at hand.

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I feel if a game isn't worth my money, it is also not worth my time. Anyone who feels like pirating games should really examine books, you can read a good book for the fraction of the cost of a shitty game.

damn dude u blew my mind with this post, honesty i never really looked into the whole piracy topic, yet since i'm a PC gamer i hear about it a lot and the 2 sides of the argument one saying it's illegal and the other saying it isn't. i personally prefer paying for my games and if i don't like the game sell it to a friend for more the i would probably get from gamestop, hell even Ebay has deals on perfectly fine games, as crazy as it sounds buying your games off of ebay can save you a bit of money, plus you can find some older games that most game retail stores don't sell (like the old Castlevania games).

 

[RDubayoo]

Oh, yes, brilliant idea, pirate-tards! Don't play your games online, and you can avoid the banhammer! Oh, wait... new Call of Duty came out? Oh, dear, you won't be able to play that online like everyone else, will you? Wah wah waahhhh. Looks like pirates lose after all--and that's the way it should be.

As for the guys selling this, I hope Sony finds a way to sue them anyway. If it isn't illegal to sell piracy-aids like this then it should be.

 

[OceanRunner]

I hope Sony makes a decent effort to combat this, no reason why they wouldn't afterall. I'm just worried that someone will ruin it for the rest of us.

I like my pirate free PS3 ^_^

Eh, the thing seems kind of pointless. Risk being banned from PSN for using it and you can't patch the games you run on it, seems like a waste of money.

They wouldn't be 50gb. Probably anything between 2-15gb.
That's just judging by how big PC games usually are though, biggest i've ever seen is 15gb and that was an mmo!

It all depends on how cutscene heavy the game is and how much content has been packed in. FFXIII on Blu-ray is massive:

"According to the site - which has posted screenshots as proof - disc one weighs in at 5.9GB, while the second and third discs install at 5.8GB and 6.6GB respectively. This combined 18.3GB compares with a total of 39.4GB for the Japanese PS3 version, making the 360 game less than half the size of the PlayStation 3 release."


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ffxiii-360-less-than-half-the-size-of-ps3-game-blog-entry

Personaly I'm happy to support the gaming industry by buying what I want/can afford.
PS:Alpha1089, who's the character acting as your avatar?

 

[RDubayoo]

If piracy was the same as theft then defeating piracy would have the same return financially as defeating theft.

It doesn't, ergo they aren't the same.

"No Different" or "The Same" is an extremely powerful statement. Make it only after you've actually researched the topic at hand.

Your entire argument is nothing more or less than someone thinking too hard about a very simple issue. Of course stealing software isn't EXACTLY the same as ripping a TV out of a store, but what does it matter? You're still taking something that doesn't belong to you, namely, intellectual property. It still costs the company sales, because many pirates who steal games do so because they don't want to pay for them, and that includes the ones that claim they weren't going to. I say this we've already established pirates are engaged in a form of dishonest behavior--stealing--so why exactly shouldn't we believe they aren't willing to lie, either? So, yeah, most of those "I wasn't going to buy it anyway" pirates? Lying through their teeth. Ultimately, then, if attempts to stop digital piracy are successful, that means that these deadbeats will be forced to buy the game they want to play, meaning revenue has been recovered.

Oh, and that argument that piracy isn't that common anyway? Pretty much busted by this very news article.

You don't appear to be arguing FOR piracy, but on the other hand, you're spinning up a huge and unnecessary web of rationalizations and misinterpretations in regards to intellectual property, when the real issue is so simple that even a child should be capable of understanding it. Piracy is theft, and theft, except under extreme cases, is illegal. It's that simple, and the law does not care how clever you are for arguing otherwise. Nor should it.

 

[gl1koz3]

Great device there. I'm in disgust of all the limitations enforced on people.

 

[rokkolpo]

gamesharks offspring i suppose.

i didn't think they'd manage the same with the PS3 though.

 

[Kingsman]

I consider it their own fault for actively trying to destroy the second-hand market of video games.

 

[Saxm13]

Yay, homebrew!

Although i kinda enjoyed the PS3 being "unhackable".

And it's interesting how Sony can't sue them cause its not using any copyright technology. It's just a spiffy exploit.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Arrrr, the pirates be buying up ships to steal their gaming booty! Arrr!

Actually this is going to wind up bad for the pirates. What's to keep a PS3 rep from buying one figuring out how it works and disabling the thing?

 

[mastiffchild]

The greed and short sighted nature of those who supposedly enjoy games never ceases to depress me. I actually nearly had a fight about this kind of thing last year when I turned down a guy in the local pub(he'd just been banned, or his console had, by MS)trying to sell me his modded 360 with 60 pirated games on it's two HDDs-he only wanted about £50. I said that piracy is killing my PC gaming and people like him would ensure the same crap on consoles too.

I'm no apologist for the industry, in fact I think it's partly their fault for not offering us much value to begin with(if they did more people would be more vehemently against the piracy) but while they try to keep all the savings from digital downloads etc, put ddaft DRM in place and sell us DLC expansions as full priced games it's hard to say they aren't almost as bad at times and easy for pirates to justify it by saying how greedy the industry is. They could also stop their daft war on secxond hand saes which, again, is shortsighted in the extreme. Peple will buy new games and keep new games on console if the games are good enough and warrant pla after play so make the games better and fewer will trade. Also most used sales are to those with too little cash to buy new releases anyway-kids mainly. I know most of my games were used when I was a kid and the thing is if I hadn't been able to do that i wouldn't have been ABKLE to buy games and would certainly have drifted into other pursuits never to return. Kifds are tomorrows big spenders but take away a route into gaming and there will be far fewer of them.

No, the industry needs to win hearts and minds by being fair themselves and then people couldn't justify crap like this to themselves. Piracy ISN'T justified , mind, and as this is a two way street doesn't encourage companies to treat gamers an better either. Still, I despise piracy for what it's done to PC gaming(see the DA2 thing last week? No special, properly developed PC, full featured version almost solely because the PC version of the first game wasn't profitable enough-due to piracy and nothing else at all. It was the best platform to [lay it on yet the sequel is dumbed down and we ony have piracy to thank and this shows the effects don't have to be long term-you can see the damage in a matter of months)and despise it on handheds and consoles too. I'm a musician and don't mind ANYONE reselling a CD i'm on but just pirating? Eff off, go on you selfish shits. You wouldn't just take bread or whatever from the shops so why nick off me and gaming? My kids don't deserve food but the bakers do? I guess they'll only be happy when all we have are Popcap games with no depth or budget, yes? Idiots, selfish idiots.