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aRealGuitarHero707

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hey i have a question for any ps3 owners out there
i'm looking into getting a ps3, but i want to have a wireless internet connection

do any of the current ps3 models come with built in wifi compatability or do i have to buy a seperate wireless router/reciever?
 

PedroSteckecilo

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My 80gig PS3 has wireless, it disconnects all the time though. It may be frustrating for you if you want it for something other than LBP levels and the like.
 

SinisterDeath

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Wifi on the PS3 does not ALWAYS disconnect all the time, its really just a router issue.
My Wifi is stable as hell on my ps3, but thats only after about 6 hours of tinkering around with it (on both ps3 and router) to get it set up correctly. ;)

Heres a hint.

When you first get a cable modem, one of the FIRST THIGNS THEY TELL YOU, is
1st Connect modem
2nd Connect Router to modem.
3rd Turn pcs on.
4th Connect to router.
5th Shut down all pcs.
Disconnect router from power.
Disconnect Modem from power.
Reconnect modem to power.
Reconnect router to power.
Boot up PCs.

You may have to do this about 30 or so times, but escentially your ISP (Cable company) needs to give your modem X number of IPs, So you need to turn on all devices that use an IP on, with the modem so the cable company can give you the IPs.
Otherwise, your router will be given say, 3 IPs, and 4 devices trying to connect.
And herse anotehr hint, the ps3 is 'aggressive' when it comes to IPs. So it tries to take the 'first' available. So with 3 IPs, and 4 devices, the ps3 and another device will constantly 'take it' from each other. ;)
 

cleverlymadeup

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yeah router disconnects are a router issue, i had that issue, swapped routers and it worked fine

i think only the 20 gig didn't come with wifi but i might be wrong. the rest do have wifi in it.

as for router recommendations, get at least a wireless g, but i'd suggestion wireless n router, stay away from linksys, lots of annoying issues with them (yes i'm aware they have 1 linux based router but that doesn't make up for the rest of the crap they have). i have a dlink and it works very well and is pretty stable and if it disconnects from the net it gets back online pretty quickly
 

semaj1337

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cleverlymadeup said:
i think only the 20 gig didn't come with wifi but i might be wrong. the rest do have wifi in it.
You are correct sir, the 20 doesn't have it, but the rest do, like my 40 GB model
 

Laughing Man

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Wifi on the PS3 does not ALWAYS disconnect all the time, its really just a router issue.
My Wifi is stable as hell on my ps3, but thats only after about 6 hours of tinkering around with it (on both ps3 and router) to get it set up correctly. ;)

Heres a hint.

When you first get a cable modem, one of the FIRST THIGNS THEY TELL YOU, is
1st Connect modem
2nd Connect Router to modem.
3rd Turn pcs on.
4th Connect to router.
5th Shut down all pcs.
Disconnect router from power.
Disconnect Modem from power.
Reconnect modem to power.
Reconnect router to power.
Boot up PCs.

You may have to do this about 30 or so times, but escentially your ISP (Cable company) needs to give your modem X number of IPs, So you need to turn on all devices that use an IP on, with the modem so the cable company can give you the IPs.
UH what? You'll have one and only one IP address no matter how many devices you have connected to the modem. THAT modem will have one IP that is unique to you and will never change no matter what device you connect to it. If you want to connect more than one device to that modem and use them at the same time then you need to buy a router and set up a home network. Within that network you will need to set up individual network IP address to each device. It's the job of the router to encode the data together and then send it on to your modem and likewise for decoding incoming data and ensuring it is sent back to the correct device. Your ISP won't know what device is connected since the only IP it will ever see is your modems one and not the individual devices connected to your network.

The PS3 will grab the first free IP it can find on your network, if you habve no deives turned on at that time then it will grab the first logical IP on your network irrespecitive of weather or not you have a PC or other device that shares that IP. It has nothing to do with being 'aggressive' ANY device will do that. So you can either chose to leave it as it is, change the PS3's IP address using the PS3 network set up option or change the IP address of any PCs or devices that may conflict by going in to network options in windows. The easiest option however is to turn on ALL devices that use the network and THEN turn on the PS3 and then run it's automatic network set up option, it will then grab the next free IP it can find, it will not just grab the first IP it can find and then set about booting what ever other device that shares that IP off the network.

I have no idea why you would ever want to connect, disconnect power up, power down or do any of the faffing about listed in the above quote, especially to set up network IP addresses. I have 5 computers, a PS3, a Wii and a DS all capable of using my network at the same time and I didn't have to do ANY of that pointless stuff listed above to get them set up when I first got my broadband installed. I assigned them their own IP address from within their own network set up options.

So with 3 IPs, and 4 devices, the ps3 and another device will constantly 'take it' from each other.
Uh no they won't. In general the first device to power on with an assigned IP will keep that IP. The second device will in general return an error saying that the assigned IP is already being used and will then just sit there waiting for you to give it a new IP.
 

Nimbus

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Wow. It took me all of 30 seconds to set up wireless for my PS3.
 

runtheplacered

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PedroSteckecilo said:
My 80gig PS3 has wireless, it disconnects all the time though.
That doesn't sound like a problem with the PS3. I suppose you could have a faulty adapter, but that's certainly not the first thing I'd try blaming. The PS3 wireless adapters generally work just fine.

Of course, if you can choose between gaming with a wired connection or a wireless one, you may as well choose the wired one. But yes, the wireless is usually not a big problem.
 

MikeTheElf

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Yes, ps3 has wireless. There are no problems with the ps3 connecting to the wifi, it is the router. I, also, spent much time tinkering with my ps3 to get the wireless working, until I found out my wireless phone frequency interfered with my router.

The basic answer is yes, there is wireless, and unless you're a hardcore technology freak with all sorts of wireless contraptions, the setup is quick and permanent.
 

SinisterDeath

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UH what? You'll have one and only one IP address no matter how many devices you have connected to the modem. THAT modem will have one IP that is unique to you and will never change no matter what device you connect to it. If you want to connect more than one device to that modem and use them at the same time then you need to buy a router and set up a home network. Within that network you will need to set up individual network IP address to each device. It's the job of the router to encode the data together and then send it on to your modem and likewise for decoding incoming data and ensuring it is sent back to the correct device. Your ISP won't know what device is connected since the only IP it will ever see is your modems one and not the individual devices connected to your network.
Oh, so thats why the cable companies advertise something along the lines of 'maximum of 3,5,10 IPs' with your 3/5/10Mbit connections?

The PS3 will grab the first free IP it can find on your network, if you habve no deives turned on at that time then it will grab the first logical IP on your network irrespecitive of weather or not you have a PC or other device that shares that IP. It has nothing to do with being 'aggressive' ANY device will do that. So you can either chose to leave it as it is, change the PS3's IP address using the PS3 network set up option or change the IP address of any PCs or devices that may conflict by going in to network options in windows. The easiest option however is to turn on ALL devices that use the network and THEN turn on the PS3 and then run it's automatic network set up option, it will then grab the next free IP it can find, it will not just grab the first IP it can find and then set about booting what ever other device that shares that IP off the network.
THe PS3, is 'aggressive' when it comes to connecting with WiFi, I used the word AGGRESSIVE, because most other 'wifi' devices, will attempt to connect to ANY IP, on the router its connected to. The PS3, is 'stubborn' if you want to call it that, it WANTS to only connect to the 1st IP, regardless if its available or not.

I have no idea why you would ever want to connect, disconnect power up, power down or do any of the faffing about listed in the above quote, especially to set up network IP addresses. I have 5 computers, a PS3, a Wii and a DS all capable of using my network at the same time and I didn't have to do ANY of that pointless stuff listed above to get them set up when I first got my broadband installed. I assigned them their own IP address from within their own network set up options.
You've never had to deal with any connections issues obviously.
It also depends on WHAT cable company you go through.
Mine sucks, Thusly I have to go through a SUCKY method of getting everything to hook up.

The cable company DOES in many ways 'give you' multiple IPs, and thats only a 'lamans' term for it.
Even though YOU are getting an 'ip' from your router, which is nothing more then 'adding' a few digits to the end of it, SOME cable companies have this nasty habit, where they ONLY want up to 3 devices connected to the router/modem. And since the cable companies knows EXACTLY what devices you have connected to your router, they have 'hardware' in place, so that the only way you can add in new hardware (after say, your first time installing it) is to, Shut off the power to the devices, because the router for instance, wants to only give out 3 IPs, even though theres a 4th device, but the only way to sometimes 'update' the router, is to shut it off. And even then, the Modem will sometimes do the same thing with the router.
I guess if you want to call it something, you could say, that hte cable company has to authorize with the ROUTER, that a device is trying to connect, and the only way for the cable company to do this is to FORCE them to authorize it, by shutting off the modem, then turn it back on, which FORCES the cable company to authorize that the modem is on, that its supposed to be recieing internet, and of course, is working correctly...

If yoru with a good cable company, you don't have to worry about all that shit, because they don't care, connect 900000 pcs to 1 router, they don't give a rats ass.
Others do.
Mine does,
Hell they even have anti-P2P policies in place, that effectively gives me a connection worse than a 56k modem, when I'm using p2p software for legit reasons. (PATCHING CERTAIN GAMES, one good example of this was, WOW)

So with 3 IPs, and 4 devices, the ps3 and another device will constantly 'take it' from each other.
Uh no they won't. In general the first device to power on with an assigned IP will keep that IP. The second device will in general return an error saying that the assigned IP is already being used and will then just sit there waiting for you to give it a new IP.
Like I said before, you obviously haven't had issues with connecting devices.

Heres a clue.
One time, My router was only giving 1 IP address between 2 pcs.
Everytime my mother wanted to get online, I'd get booted.
Everytime I tried to do something online, she'd get booted.
Effectively we kept playing tag!
MY pc stole her IP and knocked her off, her pc stole my IP and knocked me off.
Then you throw in a PS3 in the mix, and ORIGINAL MODELS tend to want to get the '1st' ip, and not the 'first available' ip.

It also doesn't help when you have people constantly trying to hack your wifi. ;)
 

runtheplacered

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SinisterDeath said:
Heres a clue.
One time, My router was only giving 1 IP address between 2 pcs.
Everytime my mother wanted to get online, I'd get booted.
Everytime I tried to do something online, she'd get booted.
Effectively we kept playing tag!
MY pc stole her IP and knocked her off, her pc stole my IP and knocked me off.
Then you throw in a PS3 in the mix, and ORIGINAL MODELS tend to want to get the '1st' ip, and not the 'first available' ip.
That definitely sounds like a problem with the settings in your router.
 

SinisterDeath

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That it was, (Linksys go figure :p)
But like I said, you will always find problems with routers, and modems (I had a shitty modem & a shitty router & A shitty cable company)
So often times everything I listed, is exactly what 'tech support' will tell you to do. ;)

Btw, I'm currently using a new cable modem, that has a built in wireless router in it, works great with the ps3, I believe its a motorola.
 

SaintWaldo

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SinisterDeath said:
Like I said before, you obviously haven't had issues with connecting devices.

Heres a clue.
One time, My router was only giving 1 IP address between 2 pcs.
Everytime my mother wanted to get online, I'd get booted.
Everytime I tried to do something online, she'd get booted.
Effectively we kept playing tag!
MY pc stole her IP and knocked her off, her pc stole my IP and knocked me off.
Then you throw in a PS3 in the mix, and ORIGINAL MODELS tend to want to get the '1st' ip, and not the 'first available' ip.

It also doesn't help when you have people constantly trying to hack your wifi. ;)
Here's a clue: these symptoms seem to indicate DHCP is/was messed up. If you didn't know that already, you shouldn't be giving network advice.
 

SinisterDeath

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SaintWaldo said:
SinisterDeath said:
Like I said before, you obviously haven't had issues with connecting devices.

Heres a clue.
One time, My router was only giving 1 IP address between 2 pcs.
Everytime my mother wanted to get online, I'd get booted.
Everytime I tried to do something online, she'd get booted.
Effectively we kept playing tag!
MY pc stole her IP and knocked her off, her pc stole my IP and knocked me off.
Then you throw in a PS3 in the mix, and ORIGINAL MODELS tend to want to get the '1st' ip, and not the 'first available' ip.

It also doesn't help when you have people constantly trying to hack your wifi. ;)
Here's a clue: these symptoms seem to indicate DHCP is/was messed up. If you didn't know that already, you shouldn't be giving network advice.
Heres a clue for you, since your a network master.
The 'process' I typed out, is EXACTLY WHAT THE FUCKING TECH SUPPORT TELLS YOU TO FUCKING DO.
Cause lets face it, if your having connection problems, that involve disconnects, THE PROCESS TO SOLVING IT IS GENERALLY THE SAME!
Particularilly if it INVOLVES a bad router/modem/ISP.
 

SaintWaldo

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SinisterDeath said:
SaintWaldo said:
SinisterDeath said:
Like I said before, you obviously haven't had issues with connecting devices.

Heres a clue.
One time, My router was only giving 1 IP address between 2 pcs.
Everytime my mother wanted to get online, I'd get booted.
Everytime I tried to do something online, she'd get booted.
Effectively we kept playing tag!
MY pc stole her IP and knocked her off, her pc stole my IP and knocked me off.
Then you throw in a PS3 in the mix, and ORIGINAL MODELS tend to want to get the '1st' ip, and not the 'first available' ip.

It also doesn't help when you have people constantly trying to hack your wifi. ;)
Here's a clue: these symptoms seem to indicate DHCP is/was messed up. If you didn't know that already, you shouldn't be giving network advice.
Heres a clue for you, since your a network master.
The 'process' I typed out, is EXACTLY WHAT THE FUCKING TECH SUPPORT TELLS YOU TO FUCKING DO.
Cause lets face it, if your having connection problems, that involve disconnects, THE PROCESS TO SOLVING IT IS GENERALLY THE SAME!
Particularilly if it INVOLVES a bad router/modem/ISP.
Here's another clue: I'm pretty sure your quick resort to yelling and profanity when challenged backs up my prior assessment that you should not be giving network advice.