Question of the Day, August 23, 2010
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Hey again, I know this is a little off topic, but what do people think would win between a pack of 12 Jurassic Park Velociraptors and a pack of 12 Xenomorphs from Aliens? To make it fair, all the aliens have non-acidic blood. So, in an all out pack fick, who would win? Don't forget to take into account the alien's pointy, prehensile tail and hard exoskeleton or the Raptor's speed and flexibility.
Actually the 'velociraptors' in Walking With Dinosaurs were Deinonychus, which is what Jurassic Park based the Raptors off of, since they've got a better name.ninja555 said:
Haha, I've seen more threatening things under my bed, seriously. I know we may never really be certain what thye looked like exactly but that does just look like a rabid, slightly mutated turkey.Callex said:EDIT:
I was going to add something, but I whatever it was it could not possibly compare to that. Damn it all, why do all the awesome things larger than my hand have to be dead. ;_;Banana Phone Man said:
As an archaeologist I feel some of these posts could do with a bit of straightening out
Also, wolves tackling an elk have the distinct advantage of not being much smaller than the elk, and the elk having only antlers to fight back with, not claws and teeth of its own. The raptors of JP were much bigger than they were in real life, closer to Deinonychus, and that toe-claw is somewhat exaggerated. In real life velociraptors weren't so good at sustained combat, only ambushing in numbers. Ever seen famous fossils of the protoceratops locked in combat with a velociraptor? The raptor is roughly the same size as the ceratopsian, yet still couldn't bring it down. There is also no evidence suggesting velociraptor was especially smart, and little to suggests they even worked in packs. The fossils I just mention show only one velociraptor working against the protoceratops, nothing suggests the presence of any more
A T-rex could quite happily kill a velociraptor with a single blow from tail, leg or mouth. The raptors could only win if there were about a hundred of them, or they were clever enough to grab a weapon.
I don't know what paleontological community you're tapping into, because velociraptor is far from some pristine example of what dinosaurs should be. It wasn't especially large, they weren't killing machines (that famous claw of theirs was only good for stabbing, it could not rapidly slice through skin and fat to eviscerate something), nothing points to above-average intelligence (unlike, say, Troodon, with its large eyes and brain cavity), and was most likely not a pack predator.
Even in Jurassic park, with it's souped up hyper-raptors, the T-rex wins. It would have done so in real-life as well
Only if you're the second sequel in a certain Jurassic-themed movie series. Spinosaurus was smaller than a T-rex, adapted for eating fish, and that sail on its back is a major weak spot as damaging it would have caused massive blood-lossMegacherv said:
T-Rex was neither slow nor lumbering. It had hollow bones helping in weight, a long stride and powerful legs muscles, it could charge damn fast when it wanted to, certainly faster than a turkey-sized velociraptor. There was a balance issue with those massive jaws, but thats what the ram-rod tail was for, it was a counter-weight for balance.Furious Styles said:
Also, wolves tackling an elk have the distinct advantage of not being much smaller than the elk, and the elk having only antlers to fight back with, not claws and teeth of its own. The raptors of JP were much bigger than they were in real life, closer to Deinonychus, and that toe-claw is somewhat exaggerated. In real life velociraptors weren't so good at sustained combat, only ambushing in numbers. Ever seen famous fossils of the protoceratops locked in combat with a velociraptor? The raptor is roughly the same size as the ceratopsian, yet still couldn't bring it down. There is also no evidence suggesting velociraptor was especially smart, and little to suggests they even worked in packs. The fossils I just mention show only one velociraptor working against the protoceratops, nothing suggests the presence of any more
A T-rex could quite happily kill a velociraptor with a single blow from tail, leg or mouth. The raptors could only win if there were about a hundred of them, or they were clever enough to grab a weapon.
You can only flank the T-rex in a "Clever Girl" scenario if it doesn't see, hear or smell you coming. Good luck with that. It's skull isn't just adapted for biting, it had remarkably good vision and a highly-developed sense of smell. This is assuming the raptors are even working together that well as a pack, for reasons I mentioned previously.Trivun said:
I don't know what paleontological community you're tapping into, because velociraptor is far from some pristine example of what dinosaurs should be. It wasn't especially large, they weren't killing machines (that famous claw of theirs was only good for stabbing, it could not rapidly slice through skin and fat to eviscerate something), nothing points to above-average intelligence (unlike, say, Troodon, with its large eyes and brain cavity), and was most likely not a pack predator.
Even in Jurassic park, with it's souped up hyper-raptors, the T-rex wins. It would have done so in real-life as well
http://listverse.com/2010/03/30/15-terrifying-and-little-known-prehistoric-monsters/
Read this and then make your decision.
But Tylosaurus definately takes the biscuit from me. That is a very big aquatic reptile.
Read this and then make your decision.
But Tylosaurus definately takes the biscuit from me. That is a very big aquatic reptile.