Wonder if now the misogynerds and "ironic" nazis will remember that the tradcons don't like them either and they were just useful pawns.
Racially Motivated Mass Shooting in Buffalo, NY
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I find it funny they're shifting the blame, despite the terrorist's motives being super clear, and the evidence right there. Nothing surprises me in the slightest. I did expect them to blame "hip hop culture and the violence/sex surrounding it". Either way, they can fuck off and join that terrorist in hell since they care so much for him. I wonder, if he had killed anyone they personally loved or cared, would they be soft on him?
Whereas if he had liked a single BLM tweet Fox news would be blaming the entire movement for his actions. When he personally ascribes a particular worldview currently being espoused by MAJOR Conservative voices however then we shouldn't try to act like there's a connection.
To be fair, I find it quite hard to listen to a lot of modern hip hop because much of the time it feels like I'm listening to a hate crime.
I fear there's a huge authenticity deficit in a lot of artists. Going back in the day to NWA and so on, they talked about their lives. From that come a load of wannabes who rip-off the tried and tested themes, either without experiencing them or taking on those lifestyle choices just to write about them (and I saw a documentary about Florida rappers that did nothing to disabuse me of that perception).
I'm not convinced it is without some influence on the audience. I don't think this extends to gunning down people in the street to any significant level, but hearing twats on the bus recite lyrics about "b****es" and "hos" with gusto does not give me confidence that they are developing respectful attitudes to women.
That depends on what you consider modern hip hop. If you're just listening stuff from the mainstream, that's the worst place to go. Mainstream hip hop has not been good in a long time. They're still good ones out there, but sturgeon's law still applies either way. If you want stuff that are meaningful and not just shallow materialism, check out the Indy circle, youtube, or soundcloud. There's plenty of people who that does hip hop a much better service. They're always being crap online of course, the least it'll all be filtered out and you can focus on the good stuff.
As for NWA, it's why I don't bother with all the gangster hip hop. There's a reason why that genre of music died the moment Tupac and Biggie Smalls got killed. I understand and respect for what they did, but it didn't leave the countless invitators who never had that life or barely suffered. After that, it was just straight up shallow materialism. Like I said though, you can't blame hip hop for all societies problems; especially if it's the songs pointing it out. Not to mention, most songs from the gangster hip hop era have aged worse every single year. Though there are a few that remain relevant and are actually good.
Uhh... not really.
If we assume a value of "freedom", freedom is a pretty much universal human ideal, because not that many people want to be told what to do all the time. Political liberalism is to all intents a purposes a philosophy of the maximisation of individual freedom (although this ends up being very complex), but there is very obviously expression of freedoms found in virtually all political ideologies to some degree.
However, communist and liberal philosophies are very different, for all that they might have some similar ideas of valuing freedom and providing it to individuals. Liberalism is in fact the basis of Western democratic, capitalist societies. To a significant extent, the mainstream left and right of most Western countries are all liberal: the left blending into democratic socialism and the right into conservatism.
I personally refer to this effect as "genre incest", and it is by no means limited to hip hop. In most genres you find people who copy the tropes from their successful predecessors in circles until all that is left is a caricature, totally disconnected from reality, with all the flaws magnified to a grotesque degree.
Hayao Miyazaki in an interview once decried the degradation of anime, saying
Which, to your point, likely most of the rap written about shooting cops and denigrating women is produced by nerds who don't actually engage in normal interactions with other humans, and are just regurgitating the media they enjoyed over again (but worse).
The usual suspects are trying out the line "what about Waukesha", an incident
last Christmas where a black dude ran a car through a parade, killing 6 and injuring 62. How the media "doesn't care about black racial violence" and so on. Pathetic attempt at whataboutism.
Problem with that line is that I vividly remember the media talking about Waukesha, for days and days and days, until the cops said it wasn't racially motivated nor an act or terror. And then the usual suspects, who are members of the media stopped talking about it.
last Christmas where a black dude ran a car through a parade, killing 6 and injuring 62. How the media "doesn't care about black racial violence" and so on. Pathetic attempt at whataboutism.
Problem with that line is that I vividly remember the media talking about Waukesha, for days and days and days, until the cops said it wasn't racially motivated nor an act or terror. And then the usual suspects, who are members of the media stopped talking about it.
YouTube seems convinced I want to hear Steven Crowder's take on that whataboutism. Fuck the algorithm.
Well, the Mueller report made Greg's brain rot
So, if we don't agree with Carlson, we are lying defamatorily. Masks off time, I guess.
Turns out Nazis are bad. Who'd have thought?
Most have said what I wanted to where certain are acting like what is the reason when the reason is big bold neon sign.
I just want to give my take on this Replacement Theory. Like this is a lack of history here and just hate. For me I am just at best three generations from family being indentured sharecroppers since the word slave tends to shiver people. If your whole theory is these people coming in to replace and you attack a black community which best guestimate are 95% likely to be descendents of people who didn't want to be here in and you go out to gun them down and tell them to go away.
This level of hatred should not be tolerated and anyone trying to work around this conversation its not a good look.
Many media pundits gas this shit up and don't want to take responsibility makes me want to puke. I am tired. There is a major issue here but people don't want to tackle out of fear of I just don't know.
For me its less about terrorist and more about the people who were ready to view it, justify it and try to turn the conversation elsewhere that makes this hard to take all in.
I just want to give my take on this Replacement Theory. Like this is a lack of history here and just hate. For me I am just at best three generations from family being indentured sharecroppers since the word slave tends to shiver people. If your whole theory is these people coming in to replace and you attack a black community which best guestimate are 95% likely to be descendents of people who didn't want to be here in and you go out to gun them down and tell them to go away.
This level of hatred should not be tolerated and anyone trying to work around this conversation its not a good look.
Many media pundits gas this shit up and don't want to take responsibility makes me want to puke. I am tired. There is a major issue here but people don't want to tackle out of fear of I just don't know.
For me its less about terrorist and more about the people who were ready to view it, justify it and try to turn the conversation elsewhere that makes this hard to take all in.
What is wrong with people here? Being against the censorship of ideas is being for speech involving violence?
And shocking no one, the liberal media never ran a correction story on Rebekah Jones being a liar. You get half the news from both places, that's why you gotta to pay attention to both.
Kill him anyway. Anyone impressed by the martyrdom of such a figure is already beyond hope.