"Rape Game" On Amazon Triggers Anger, Outrage

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mspencer82 said:
There's controversial and just plain sick, this game clearly falls into the latter category. And don't pull that "different culture" B.S., cultural differences do not excuse rape.
I mean they are less offended in Japan than over here-different culture just like the way American people think differently than people in Marakesh etc

That is why they have Panty Vending Machines and stuff in Japan

Sick here<----America
Controversial There<----Japan
 

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fix-the-spade said:
Gormourn said:
And we consider games where killing a shitload of random and usually more or less innocent people as norm too, and so what?

It's not scary, games like this existed for years and years now.
True, it is weird that we can all play games about mass murder and not feel any guilt. Maybe it's down the way death inevitably cathes up with everyone, or the constant bombardment of it in every other media as well as games, we just seem to be more tolerant of killing.

I can't really explain it but I don't think that one can be used to justify the other. Rape is quite a bit more personal than mowing down 200 generic baddies.
well in the most games and movies the guys you kill are always bad guys so thats possibly why it feels better to play games where you kill people then games where you rape people. and even if you play GTA you can just imagine that the ones you kill are bad guys...thats a little harder to imagine in rape games.
 

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Admittedly, rape is more taboo in the west, so that's going to affect opinion. But comparing it to killing in games is forgetting the context. If the rape in this 'game' was replaced with violence, would the west recieve it with open arms? I don't think so.
 

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sorry user name taken. said:
goodman528 said:
I don't see such a problem with this game. As long as parents don't buy it for their 5 year old kids.
its as if saying ''rape'' is ok =/
SAYING "rape" is perfectly fine.
sorry user name taken. said:
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There free to make whatever fucked up games they want, I'm just not going to buy it.
Its (sadly) been made for people that are...hhmmm..interested? in this i would hardly call this a fetish because that just seems the easy way around it.I'm not really surprised by this game...everyone is quick to shrug it off and say

''that's japan for you''

''where else but japan''

that's f**king stupid because then that gets used as a excuse for it to be ''ok''.japan seems to have always pushed it to far..and its always in hentai or hentai games.I've seen some that are terrible (can't say why) but this is disgusting and its makes japan look bad as well!
It is a fetish.

No, shut up. That's never been an excuse for it to be "ok", it's just that japan has a different view of sex than America atleast. You can't push hentai too far without making one of the characters mock and look like a real specified person. Yes, it's disgusting but it's a fetish and it's a non-harmful way to live it out. Japan doesn't seem to care how messed up they look to us.
mspencer82 said:
Svenparty said:
mspencer82 said:
truly messed up games like Grand Theft Auto.
Urrrm...So your not into controversial titles huh?

But you could have a HUGE onion layered discussion about "[game Hero] and his right to kill people that are going to kill him", plus Japan have extremely different culture to USA and UK they sell girls underpants in Vending Machines and find Schoolgirl uniforms MOAR arousing...
Japan FTW

There are US games based around killing and like Game Heroes don't realistically give a crap about anyone they kill it's the same with the Surprise Sex videogame.

There's controversial and just plain sick, this game clearly falls into the latter category. And don't pull that "different culture" B.S., cultural differences do not excuse rape.
It's as if, half of us lost our brain function as soon as we clicked on this thread. IT'S NOT RAPE!! IT'S RAPE PORN!! There is a big fucking difference between porn and a real person being sexually violated against their will.

Also, they just don't give a dame about close things to this, like sex simulators. While almost everyone here would find a sex simulator videogame insane.
kvenox said:
fix-the-spade said:
Gormourn said:
And we consider games where killing a shitload of random and usually more or less innocent people as norm too, and so what?

It's not scary, games like this existed for years and years now.
True, it is weird that we can all play games about mass murder and not feel any guilt. Maybe it's down the way death inevitably cathes up with everyone, or the constant bombardment of it in every other media as well as games, we just seem to be more tolerant of killing.

I can't really explain it but I don't think that one can be used to justify the other. Rape is quite a bit more personal than mowing down 200 generic baddies.
well in the most games and movies the guys you kill are always bad guys so thats possibly why it feels better to play games where you kill people then games where you rape people. and even if you play GTA you can just imagine that the ones you kill are bad guys...thats a little harder to imagine in rape games.
You know they're not bad guys and no one does that. IF anything they pretend they're killing tons of nuns.
mspencer82 said:
Svenparty said:
A Rape game is no worse than a game where your killing people....


This game and Unagi are two more reasons to visit JAPAN
I've seen this idiotic argument at least a dozen times in this thread and I've replied to it once. Clearly what I said didn't get through.

Most "killing" games out there with the exception of truly messed up games like Grand Theft Auto have on major difference. The person you're killing is also trying to kill you. What screwed up world do you live in where an enemy combatant is on the same level as a rape victim? I doubt if this game is a "rape or be raped" scenario, it seems to be centered solely around the theme of rape.

Honestly, the moronic arguments I've seen trying to justify this game make me ashamed to be a gamer.
Than argue against GTA, something that isn't social taboo except among soccer moms. Also, playing GTA is living a fantasy, just like the rape game. I've always wanted to go on the street looking for anyone who has an annoying voice so I could beat them up over the head with a bat. If some guy has a rape fetish or whatever I don't see how it's much different.
 

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I am absolutely shocked that a game about rape caused an uproar. Almost as shocked as when the release of GTAIV caused the media to report every carjacking and burglary as GTA-inspired.
 

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tustin2121 said:
I'm going to be a conspiracy theorist right now and say that Isn't it a coincidence that these guys accused of there being rape in video games and then a year later, you know, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY TAKES TO MAKE A MODESTLY PLAYABLE VIDEO GAME, this game appears on the market?
About that...The game is a few years old by now. I already knew of this game a few years back. It sounded silly so I tried it, and yes, very silly. Incredibly offensive to pompous asses who can't deal with other cultures and rape victims. Majorly offensive to people to know rape victims, and minorly offensive and disturbing but rather ignorable for people such as myself. I wish these anti-video game people would realize most gamers are indeed capable of distinguishing between a game and reality.
 

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fish food carl said:
CantFaketheFunk said:
... Japan never ceases to amaze.
Screw that, the human race is doomed. It always amazed me, but now I'm off to mars. Anybody else coming?
ill follow you to mars and this is plain old weird and creepy and wow the only thing to make it better is zombies
 

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A lot of Japanese people seem to have suppressed sexual urges and a desire for domination of the opposite sex.

I dare say it's the Japanese culture, seemingly focused on efficiency and loyalty to "your group", it leaves very little in the way of excitement.
A sexually deviancy is both a business opportunity and something that needs to be occupied so that it isn't taken out on real people.

You can't expect people in such a shame bound society to seek help for something that is "bad", so the next best thing? Make a profit on it and don't talk about it in public.
 

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Its a game, I don't care what's in it, but the nanny states of Europe are out to ban anything unpleasant, and thanks to 'extreme porn is illegal in the UK', a video game, like cartoons can get you thrown in jail there, which is sadly hilarious.

I'm glad, at least for the moment, you can have any crazy video game some twisted japanese developer can come up with here in the US and not have to worry about going to jail for something that isn't real.

people who can't seperate fiction from reality are more screwed up in the head than the people who make the video games, because really, if games MADE you do things, Japan would be the rape and kid-rape capital of the world, and there'd be hundreds of thousands of mass murderers pf those that played GTA.

also, how can some of you find this game offensive and agree with it's censorship, but beating a hooker with a baseball bat to get your money back in a game or "Hostel" type torture porn movies are alright as long as "it doesn't get in the hands of young kids"? Violence is violence, hypocrisy just makes you rationalize it so the objectionable material others entertain themselves with looks worse than what YOU entertain yourself with.

 

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...and yet, they don't give a fuck about other media such as movies or advertisements with the same content.
 

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I_LIKE_CAKE said:
Gormourn said:
Who gives a shit?

It certainly is no worse then GTA morally.
Not to pick a fight, but, uh, hell yeah it's worse than GTA.
Most certainly! I mean, in that game you rape people, but in GTA you beat people to death with baseball bats, murder thousands if not millions of police, fire rocket launchers at civilians and mow down countless innocents.

Clearly, the rape game is more morally objectionable...
 

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so wait a second you get to rape under age girls? wow i would really like to see how far they would get before they got arrested if they tried this in america

edit: ok i thought about this for a little bit aftet reading this:what is with Japan and its weird ass fetish for anime porn? i mean they say Americas teenagers have sex to much but then you got this i mean what the fuck? i dont see how you can say "o ya i can see likeing anime porn" whatever if its what they like

P.S.: yes me and my friend were players in school
 

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Booze Zombie said:
I_LIKE_CAKE said:
Gormourn said:
Who gives a shit?

It certainly is no worse then GTA morally.
Not to pick a fight, but, uh, hell yeah it's worse than GTA.
Most certainly! I mean, in that game you rape people, but in GTA you beat people to death with baseball bats, murder thousands if not millions of police, fire rocket launchers at civilians and mow down countless innocents.

Clearly, the rape game is more morally objectionable...
Yes, clearly, I am glad you agree that a game whose gameplay revolves around forcing women to sex with the main character is indeed far more morally objectionable than a game which mixes a deep and thought provoking plot with cartoonish violence that is impossible to take seriously.
 

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I_LIKE_CAKE said:
Yes, clearly, I am glad you agree that a game whose gameplay revolves around forcing women to sex with the main character is indeed far more morally objectionable than a game which mixes a deep and thought provoking plot with cartoonish violence that is impossible to take seriously.
Point is, if you look at games like they're real... what's worse? Raping 3 people or murdering millions?

They're games, Freudian sexuality issues or compensating for boring normality with violence, both are reprehensible... if they actually happened. They didn't.
 

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I_LIKE_CAKE said:
Booze Zombie said:
I_LIKE_CAKE said:
Gormourn said:
Who gives a shit?

It certainly is no worse then GTA morally.
Not to pick a fight, but, uh, hell yeah it's worse than GTA.
Most certainly! I mean, in that game you rape people, but in GTA you beat people to death with baseball bats, murder thousands if not millions of police, fire rocket launchers at civilians and mow down countless innocents.

Clearly, the rape game is more morally objectionable...
Yes, clearly, I am glad you agree that a game whose gameplay revolves around forcing women to sex with the main character is indeed far more morally objectionable than a game which mixes a deep and thought provoking plot with cartoonish violence that is impossible to take seriously.
I'll say it again since some seemed to have missed it; Violence is violence, hypocrisy just makes you rationalize it so the objectionable material others entertain themselves with looks worse than what YOU entertain yourself with. You sound like the parents that were outraged over 'Hot Coffee'.

So if the game had a deep story, it'd be ok to simulate rape violence? thats the hypocritical rationalization I was talking about. Hostel didn't have a story, it was just a setup to make torture and shock the focus of the film, should people go to jail for watching and buying the dvd for it?

 

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CaptainREBell said:
...Because rape is SO much more worse than genocide *sarcasm*.
Seriously, why banning rape but not genocide games?
Maybe we can start taking the government more seriously when they stop bickering on wikipedia. Or stop being hypocrites.
Rape happens more often than genocide would be my guess. And you can unfortunately get away with rape. Kill a few thousand people of a certain minority (or majority) and you're gunna get caught. Rape would be more easily influenced.