Rape Games Banned in Japan

Kiutu

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Cliff_m85 said:
Kiutu said:
Ok, I guess -I- will be the first to be against this.
Mostly it annoys me cause it seems more like people whining and being huge babies. Now, I know Japan does not have our government and laws (some we put on em yes, but not all) but still. Its like, why is this allowed but this not when it is very similar. So is games where girls are killed gonna be banned too? What about men/boys? Now yes, obviously few if any are playing these games for anything aside from sexual release, but for all we know it is a better outlet for peole with such fantasies. This is just like violence in gaming and is not going to make people who would not already do it start raping people or stalking them.
Equality Now, based on this they seem PETA-like. (Not a good thing)
Thats my view on this.
Just a little too late, I beat you.
Well, I was too busy writing that long thing on something I definatly knew my stance on. Sorry your unsure tiny stance was posted before mine.
Also sorry you are making this a competition instead of a on-topic debate. Ask the banned people who post first on the videos where THAT gets you.
 

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Nimbus said:
Kiutu said:
Ok, I guess -I- will be the first to be against this.
Mostly it annoys me cause it seems more like people whining and being huge babies. Now, I know Japan does not have our government and laws (some we put on em yes, but not all) but still. Its like, why is this allowed but this not when it is very similar. So is games where girls are killed gonna be banned too? What about men/boys? Now yes, obviously few if any are playing these games for anything aside from sexual release, but for all we know it is a better outlet for peole with such fantasies. This is just like violence in gaming and is not going to make people who would not already do it start raping people or stalking them.
Equality Now, based on this they seem PETA-like. (Not a good thing)
Thats my view on this.
Actually, you're the second. The guy above you is the first.

I guess I'm the third. All the points I would have made, have already been made, and better than I could have made them.
Its alot easier to post first when you only write 2 lines. I was too busy writing almost 10. I don't like having to point this out in this matter-of-fact way but you had to make me.
 

Charli

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Oh no..they'll have to watch it without pressing buttons... The phase; "pointless waste of gaming industry money", doesn't even begin to describe all this is. But...In retrospect, it does. Japan your crazy was already evident, theres no going back now.

I certainly don't agree with 'rape games' but frankly you're not peddling them to anyone except perverts who do, so I don't really care, it brings home the bread.
 

Nimbus

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Kiutu said:
Cliff_m85 said:
Kiutu said:
Ok, I guess -I- will be the first to be against this.
Mostly it annoys me cause it seems more like people whining and being huge babies. Now, I know Japan does not have our government and laws (some we put on em yes, but not all) but still. Its like, why is this allowed but this not when it is very similar. So is games where girls are killed gonna be banned too? What about men/boys? Now yes, obviously few if any are playing these games for anything aside from sexual release, but for all we know it is a better outlet for peole with such fantasies. This is just like violence in gaming and is not going to make people who would not already do it start raping people or stalking them.
Equality Now, based on this they seem PETA-like. (Not a good thing)
Thats my view on this.
Just a little too late, I beat you.
Well, I was too busy writing that long thing on something I definatly knew my stance on. Sorry your unsure tiny stance was posted before mine.
Also sorry you are making this a competition instead of a on-topic debate. Ask the banned people who post first on the videos where THAT gets you.
Woah! Little too defensive there, you think? He was probably just making a joke/ humorous observation.
 

joystickjunki3

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It's not that I think game is a good idea, but it somehow seems wrong to be able to force it out of existence if it hasn't actually harmed anything. (Although I realize that it's a voluntary organization and they haven't necessarily actually forced it out of existence.)

Keep in mind that if anyone wants to correct me, I never claimed to be an expert on the matter and I don't need to yelled at about how 10 women blame this game for sexual abuse or whatever. I'm more than happy to admit that I was wrong it if I actually was wrong.
 

Milkman Dan

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Japan is such a suppressed society that it's little wonder their entertainment is completely outlandish. In a way, this reminds me of a Japanese porno producer who thought that the USA was the "Land of Sex" because of all the American porn that was flooding the Internet.

Regarding the 10-20 percent estimate, do keep in mind that the PC game industry is not the same over there as it is North America; traditionally, Japanese erotic games have been PC games. Every once in a while, a particularly popular visual novel with erotic elements will be "cleaned up" for a console port, such as Fate/Stay Night.
 

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Bleh, We can blow heads off in a normal video game but one game trys to simulate rape and we point the finger at it, Dont get me wrong im not for the game but im not against it, Im just saying let people play what they want to play because they will just go out and rape if you dont :)
 

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The Youth Counselor said:
I'm someone who argues in favor 99.99999% of the time for the freedom of expression and that a virtual simulation and real life act are completely separate. But I gotta say, It's about damn time.

this particular genre is estimated to make up 10-20 percent of the Japanese PC game industry[/b]
:facepalms
I agree. This is going a bit beyond freedom of expression. What would the maker want to express with this game?
 

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Good morning blues said:
Good show! There really is no place in a society for cultural material that explicitly and obviously promotes and normalizes rape.
But promotion of viligantism, murder and war crimes is okay? Don't you think that this is a double standard?
 

The Youth Counselor

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Rape is considered to by many to be the most depraved and heinous of crimes, even more heinous than murder or treason. The act takes away the feeling and basic human right of personal safety. For a victim was violated in a way that was sacred and the rapist uses sex which is normally an act of trust and love into a weapon. These games aren't a good release. The normal human being has a violent fantasy now and again, but most games depict them in an act of defense. Violent video games tend not harbor more of the mentality and promote it. They don't distort the violence as a magical thing where the victim "likes to be killed, or was just asking for it"These games are made for an audience that will continue to harbor these urges after playing. They are simply an excercise in sadism and morally abhorrent beliefs.

One in four women worldwide undergo some sexual abuse or harrassment. In Japan where sex crimes are high, and sexism goes deep into it's very laws, something has to be done.

We also need to draw the line on what we can show in fiction and virtual depictions, so that less controversy hits the mainstream. Art should have no boundaries, and be able to address anything and everything. However this is just immature, depraved trash that addresses the issue of rape in an irresponsible gratuitous pornographic light. We as a community know that the lowest selling controversial game garners an outrage, but rape simulators are estimated to account to 15-20 of the Japanese game market. This is heat we do not need.

We talk about how rape is a hideous thing, and that we need to teach our sisters and daughters how to live. But what do we teach our sons.
 

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ygetoff said:
The Youth Counselor said:
I'm someone who argues in favor 99.99999% of the time for the freedom of expression and that a virtual simulation and real life act are completely separate. But I gotta say, It's about damn time.

this particular genre is estimated to make up 10-20 percent of the Japanese PC game industry[/b]
:facepalms
I agree. This is going a bit beyond freedom of expression. What would the maker want to express with this game?
One could say the same thing about GTA or Manhunt.
 

Good morning blues

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Ziren said:
Good morning blues said:
Good show! There really is no place in a society for cultural material that explicitly and obviously promotes and normalizes rape.
But promotion of viligantism, murder and war crimes is okay? Don't you think that this is a double standard?
Hey now, when did I say that? Promotion of vigilantism, murder and war crimes absolutely is not okay.
 

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I don't know what sickens me more, the fact this game exists, or the fact that I actually played it... I'd like to point out, this was at a friends machine, he said "HAY, WATCH THIS" and it disgusted me.
 

Nimbus

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Good morning blues said:
Ziren said:
Good morning blues said:
Good show! There really is no place in a society for cultural material that explicitly and obviously promotes and normalizes rape.
But promotion of viligantism, murder and war crimes is okay? Don't you think that this is a double standard?
Hey now, when did I say that? Promotion of vigilantism, murder and war crimes absolutely is not okay.
So 90% of videogames are not okay?
 

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The title is a little misleading...unless I misread the post, they haven't banned anything yet have they? Just set up a group to 'enforce' such an idea, and one done voluntarily at that...

As for actually banning the stuff...I personally don't care, as it's not something I get enjoyment off myself. Regardless, I'm not entirely for it either. And, for the same reason I'm not against banning drawn child porn, which as awful as it is, is still fictional material.

I mean...a ban on selling the stuff, fine, but not a ban on either manufacturing it or having it in one's possession.
 

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joystickjunki3 said:
ygetoff said:
The Youth Counselor said:
I'm someone who argues in favor 99.99999% of the time for the freedom of expression and that a virtual simulation and real life act are completely separate. But I gotta say, It's about damn time.

this particular genre is estimated to make up 10-20 percent of the Japanese PC game industry[/b]
:facepalms
I agree. This is going a bit beyond freedom of expression. What would the maker want to express with this game?
One could say the same thing about GTA or Manhunt.
Good point. Um... I actually agree with you about Manhunt. It's pretty much a murder simulator. However, the newest GTA actually had a good, somewhat deep storyline. It wasn't just for the purpose of simulated murder/rape.
 

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This is one of those quirky situations where I'm inclined to say nay. Despite my personal opinions of the content that is being banned, I don't agree with the banning of just about any material in the first place. I'm a "take it or leave it, but don't ***** about it" kind of person.