I'm trying to think like a "suit" right now and I can't figure out why they'd think the dog getting killed would have affected the profitability of the film. Is this even a thing? Outrage over animals dying in movies?
I knew a guy who refused to play Divinity Original Sin 2 past the point where a cat who starts following you around gets blown up as a joke. Think he demanded a refund too, but not sure. He was mad.I'm trying to think like a "suit" right now and I can't figure out why they'd think the dog getting killed would have affected the profitability of the film. Is this even a thing? Outrage over animals dying in movies?
Yes, there is an outrage over it. There is a website called Does The Dog Die? And it's SOLE purpose, is to notify people ahead of time, if a film that contains dogs, kills the dog or not. Because for some people, that REALLY upsets them, and it informs them on whether they should see a film or not. I think it's sort of branched out to cover any kind of pet-like animal that might be in the film, not just dogs.I'm trying to think like a "suit" right now and I can't figure out why they'd think the dog getting killed would have affected the profitability of the film. Is this even a thing? Outrage over animals dying in movies?
*shrugs* Humans are weird. For me, I think it boils down to the fact that I know the animal isn't really aware of what's going on. That they are basically pawns in a situation totally outside of their capacity to ever understand, and unable to control at all. It's not like they were being arrogant or stupid, and "brought this on themselves" like what happens to a lot of humans in films. They are just, there, often literally on a leash, brought there by a human. Same thing for a child, which is why they are often in the same category in films. They don't really have full agency most of the time, so if bad things befall them, it's usually do to someone else putting them in that situation.Y'know, I get why it's the case, but isn't it a bit odd that we're fine with heroes killing mooks by the dozen in films, but if a dog dies, everyone loses it?
Y'know, I get why it's the case, but isn't it a bit odd that we're fine with heroes killing mooks by the dozen in films, but if a dog dies, everyone loses it?
Honestly, animals dying usually do not bother me, even if caused by humans hands. But there are moments that had me upset or sad. The exception was the prototype for Hardcore Henry. I'm a bit disappointed this scene was not used for the final film.So yeah, my animal brain reflexively hopes the animals get out of whatever crazy situation the asshole humans have put them in, usually without any consideration for the animals themselves. And hopes at least the non-asshole humans get out as well.
Two things really matter to me when an animal dies in a movie- the manner of death and the emotional attachment I have developed to that animal. The puppy dying in John Wick didn't bother me too much because she's not in the movie long enough for me to really get invested. The end of Old Yeller and Where the Red Fern Grows are different matters entirely since we were with those dogs for the entirety of the movie. It also didn't bother me that much when the cat is killed in The Boondock Saints because we barely see the cat.Honestly, animals dying usually do not bother me, even if caused by humans hands. But there are moments that had me upset or sad. The exception was the prototype for Hardcore Henry. I'm a bit disappointed this scene was not used for the final film.
I found the first JW to be enjoyable, but 2 and 3 were incredibly boring to me, and just felt like an extended, feature length action scene for no reason. At least the first JW had a motivation for why he was doing it, even if it was just a dog.John Wick is a very average movie thats 30 years out of date and I really dont care about his dog.
Happy that it was good for some. Killing the dog or not wouldn't have helped or hindered the movie to me in my eyes
I mean obviously there will be people who will be bothered by violent acts. I've made the mistake before of showing people something that genuinely triggered them and I deeply regretted it. But isn't that the entire point of the R rating?Because some shit really bothers some people, like a lot. And they don't like seeing it in something they spent money on.
In a general sense yes R rating is supposed to state that. As a blanket "shit will be potentially disturbing in this film", but there are some generally agreed upon "lines you don't cross" in most cultures. Where, no matter the amount of disclaimers you put on the thing, they will still be upset about it. Violence to animals and children, is one of those sort of unspoken tropes that you avoid at all costs, if you are wanting to avoid any controversy/negative press. I'm not saying it's always the case, or that it always is a problem, but it's something that seems to be common, at least in US culture. You can see it in the things you DON'T normally see, and how those events, when they actually happen, are depicted. The above mentioned Burned Dolly to convey child death for example. There are exceptions of course, like the Nuke Nightmare scene in Terminator 2, where you see the playground get dusted, but that was on purpose, they were trying to convey the horror of such an event happening. And when it's done well, it can be very impacting. Like John Wick 1, and T2.I mean obviously there will be people who will be bothered by violent acts. I've made the mistake before of showing people something that genuinely triggered them and I deeply regretted it. But isn't that the entire point of the R rating?
Uuuuuh....*ponders* not that I can think of offhand? I mean, there probably are some examples out there? Not for something like animal violence that I can recall, but the most recent examples I can think of, where a single element of a film, caused a big PR stink, are usually of a sex/sexual orientation nature, like the live action Beauty and the Beast. Or in the nerd rage category, a choice of a gender/race for a character, canonically depicted as something else.Anyway, I was more of looking for actual incidents when a movie caused widespread outrage due to something like this. Fearing that your movie won't do well because of a dog being killed seems like a very specific worry. Although I do live in a country that does not place as much importance on pets as America.
Holy fuck, this clip. I love that movie and I wish they make another.