Report: GTA V For PC Ships on a Whopping Seven Disks

Malpraxis

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Saulkar said:
Coach Morrison said:
Sillarra said:
65 GB is the install size, or the game size?

Seriously, do they not compress installation files anymore?
According to steam it seems to be the game size, it likely will be compressed to at least 40 something gigs.
Actually trying to download it now and it is a less optimistic 59Gigs which is a 30 hour download for me (if my younger brother was not already downloading 2 games tonight, HMPH).
That's what they call porn these days?
 

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Malpraxis said:
Saulkar said:
Coach Morrison said:
Sillarra said:
65 GB is the install size, or the game size?

Seriously, do they not compress installation files anymore?
According to steam it seems to be the game size, it likely will be compressed to at least 40 something gigs.
Actually trying to download it now and it is a less optimistic 59Gigs which is a 30 hour download for me (if my younger brother was not already downloading 2 games tonight, HMPH).
That's what they call porn these days?
I gifted the games to him and had to personally go to his computer and limit the download speed because I could not use the internet at all while he was downloading so I know for a fact that he was not downloading porn. If he was then the Steam download information would not say that it was using all 630KPS of download speed. XD
 

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In all honesty given how they hyped the game 7 Disks is what I expect it to come out on at Day 1 on the consoles.
 

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This could've been the first PC game to come out on Blu-Ray. I can see people caving in and buying a BR drive to play this game (and future games that would follow in its steps). BR drives are affordable these days. I'm surprised that it has not become the standard for PC yet, since I don't recall the DVD standard to take this long (although it did take a pretty long time).

It doesn't matter to me anyway, since I plan to get it digitally and for a much cheaper price.

Villan33 said:
Never quite understood the problem with multiple disks. Suppose it was simply 'cause I grew up in a era when games that needed multiple disks (in some cases around 30 floppys) weren't that uncommon. Seven seems quite quaint by comparison. :)
I had a CD drive back when games started to come on more than 6 floppies, but I do recall the time of FMV games which came on 4-8 CD-ROMs. The problem with this today is that people are used to relatively painless and quick installations, and having to wait for the installation program to extract the files from each DVD and having to switch discs is a bit annoying.

Of course people could always buy the game digitally if they have a good, uncapped connection, so it's not like people are forced to do this.
 

heroicbob

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the real surprise to me here is the that the game is coming out on disc my disc drive pointlessly sits unplugged but still inside my case because i never use it
 

Ishigami

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Fucking stupid. A BR drive is 60$.

Steven Bogos said:
especially you poor guys using SSDs.
Thanks for your concern... I have 1,62 TB of SSD storage capacity.
 

elvor0

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What. Why? The Xbox 360 version comes on 2 discs and that's only got a DVD drive. Why is this on 7? As in, why is it SO much bigger than the xbox version?
 

munx13

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Why so many? I remember Crysis being 21GB and that fits on a single DVD, surely they could just fit it all on 3-4 disks.
 

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Wolfenstein was 4 dvds and it was not the full game you still had to download 10 gbs or so.

This better be the full game.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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I'm disappointed that we still don't have a viable flash drive solution for software instead of discs. That would be so cool. And because flash drive housing can look like anything, they could be some pretty attractive looking collectibles. Imagine GTA V flash drive that looks like a vehicle or character from a game. It's a great business opportunity. Not just for PC copies, but consoles as well. Wouldn't Xbox owners like a Master Chief shaped USB drive for their HALO for example? Or Kratos or whatever for PlayStation.
 

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Steven Bogos said:
Since the vast majority of PC users still use the good 'ol DVD drive, the physical version of GTA V will be pretty hefty.
on the contrary, reports show that as much as 92% of PC games are digital purchases [http://gamerant.com/pc-digital-physical-sales-comparison-2013/]

The problem being that DVD is still the standard for PC, and while that was fine 10, or even five years ago, these days games are getting a little too big to cram onto the decades-old format.
Its not a problem. DVD is the best physical media to transfer one-off installs (installs you dont need to constantly feed to the pc after instalation is complete).

- over a full year since the game first launched on Xbox 360 and PS3.
18 months, but whose counting :D

Sillarra said:
65 GB is the install size, or the game size?

Seriously, do they not compress installation files anymore?
The game size. Steams install download takes around 58GB - still a hefty sum of downloading.

Jaeger_CDN said:
There is a cheaper way ... thumb drive which would be an interesting way of doing it. I've heard of some bands selling their albums by thumb drive rather than CD.
Your, kidding, right? If we pick cheapest trash quality thumb drives thats still around 1 dollar per gygabyte. Dvds cost 4 times less.


frizzlebyte said:
Why not put out a version on Blu-Ray? I mean, sure, there's probably not that many gamers with a Blu-ray drive in their PCs, but it'd be a great option for those of us who do and would like to have a physical copy of the game.
Because bluray is not free. you will be paying as much as 1 dollar per disc just for the license to print the disc. money that goes to bluray conglomerate which is basically controlled and owned by Sony. every time anyone prints anything on Blu-Ray they pay Sony for their right to do this. DVD on the other hand is completely free. The price to print those DVDs are less than they would pay for licenses to use bluerays alone let alone printing them.

Hairless Mammoth said:
Ah, the joys of multiple install discs are coming back. Does, the DVD version completely install on the HDD and use Steamworks or other DRM? It would be quite nostalgic to have to swap discs when driving across the map. (Nostalgic yes, but not fun after the first couple times though.)
The DVD version fully install on the local drive (HDD/SSD) and is activated via rockstar social club DRM. it does not come with a steam code and cannot be added to steam.

MercurySteam said:
Now this I don't understand. First off almost nobody bothers storing their games on SSDs cause all they really affect are loading times which means you'd be far better off getting a better CPU instead. Secondly, with the sizes of games nowadays no one is going to be storing their game libraries on their SSDs anyway. Of course now that you can buy 1TB SSDs maybe people are already doing it.
Some games have atrociuos loading times though. like Battlefield games that can take as much as minutes to load from HDD.

Adam Jensen said:
I'm disappointed that we still don't have a viable flash drive solution for software instead of discs.
Thats because flash drive is not a viable solution.
 

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elvor0 said:
What. Why? The Xbox 360 version comes on 2 discs and that's only got a DVD drive. Why is this on 7? As in, why is it SO much bigger than the xbox version?
More and larger textures, more audio, more models, more physics and AI data, different foliage system, video editor and required software installation files (Whatever authentication scheme they are lumbering us with this time, Microsoft Visual C++ libraries and Direct X libraries for example.)

What I find interesting is that with 7 discs we are looking at a total, compressed, install of between 32 and 59.5gb - depending on if they use single or double layer DVD's.

Given how difficult it is to effectively compress data these days if they managed to get a 65gb install down to 32gb I'll be quite impressed. Unless of course it uses some REALLY heavy compression that takes ages to decode... ..in which case whoever's installing it's gonna have a LONG day ahead of them.
 

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elvor0 said:
What. Why? The Xbox 360 version comes on 2 discs and that's only got a DVD drive. Why is this on 7? As in, why is it SO much bigger than the xbox version?
Id imagine a lot of it is to do with the PC version having 4K textures which will take up a lot more space than the 720p ones for the 360.
 

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Coach Morrison said:
Sillarra said:
65 GB is the install size, or the game size?

Seriously, do they not compress installation files anymore?
According to steam it seems to be the game size, it likely will be compressed to at least 40 something gigs.
Currently preloading on Steam, can confirm download size is 59 GB.
 

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Malpraxis said:
Saulkar said:
Coach Morrison said:
Sillarra said:
65 GB is the install size, or the game size?

Seriously, do they not compress installation files anymore?
According to steam it seems to be the game size, it likely will be compressed to at least 40 something gigs.
Actually trying to download it now and it is a less optimistic 59Gigs which is a 30 hour download for me (if my younger brother was not already downloading 2 games tonight, HMPH).
That's what they call porn these days?
Who downloads porn?
 

Coach Morrison

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Saulkar said:
Coach Morrison said:
Sillarra said:
65 GB is the install size, or the game size?

Seriously, do they not compress installation files anymore?
According to steam it seems to be the game size, it likely will be compressed to at least 40 something gigs.
Actually trying to download it now and it is a less optimistic 59Gigs which is a 30 hour download for me (if my younger brother was not already downloading 2 games tonight, HMPH).
Well typically the steam page lists hard drive space, so I'm not sure if it's just preloads are uncompressed or Rockstar are showing that they still aren't fans of the PC community.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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Strazdas said:
Thats because flash drive is not a viable solution.
Thank you captain obvious. My disappointment lies in that fact. It doesn't mean that something can't be done to address the issues of using flash drives as they are now for storing video games or other media.
 

Strazdas

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Vie said:
More and larger textures, more audio, more models, more physics and AI data, different foliage system, video editor and required software installation files (Whatever authentication scheme they are lumbering us with this time, Microsoft Visual C++ libraries and Direct X libraries for example.)
Can you give a source for that? Its not that i dont believe this might be in game, its just that every "whats new on PC version" anouncement i read only ever mentioned different textures, more animals and first person camera. More audio/models/physics/AI/foliage was never mentioned.

DirectX and C++ libraries are really small and we know what they are lumbering (setups are leaked already) and its bloated but its not bloated in size, more like requiring various crap like the social club thing.

Also Audio folder in the install takes up 15 GB, so its not the main source of the size apperently.


Nosirrah said:
Who downloads porn?
People who want good quality 60 fps porn?

Adam Jensen said:
Strazdas said:
Thats because flash drive is not a viable solution.
Thank you captain obvious. My disappointment lies in that fact. It doesn't mean that something can't be done to address the issues of using flash drives as they are now for storing video games or other media.
no, my point was exactly that something CANT be done, because flash is NOT a viable solution of storing media. as in - its a really really bad idea.