This is absolutely the best way to describe it to someone who already played Bioshock. For some it will mean good, for some bad, but it will fit them all.Susan Arendt said:Ok, having played through more of the game, I finally figured out the best way to describe BioShock 2.
Ok, remember what the later levels of BioShock were like? After you were used to Rapture and Splicers and audio diaries, and the whole rest of it? Levels like Apollo Square and Hephaestus (which I have undoubtedly just spelled wrong). That's what BioShock 2 feels like. It's BioShock, minus the ZOMG of having just discovered this new and wonderful environment.
Make of that what you will.
i apologise on behalf of my country.rory12345 said:In the BBC's review of Bioshock 2, Yahtzee's Bioshock review gets mentioned in it(1:08): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nwqaICKtvQ&feature=related
and that's the only thing that's making me think twice about it, in the first game you were stumbling onto everything by chance, now... well maybe the benefit is that the story can seem more driven during the early stages, i'm trying to media blackout myself so when i finally play it i can work it out as i go along.Cliff_m85 said:I'm playing it now (well, not literally now...but you know what I mean). The Big Daddy suit just sucks. I mean, it's an interesting concept but it really takes away from the suspense of the first game where I was just a normal guy. Now I'm a killing machine with a gigantic drill. No real suspense yet. :/
That's the thing, those games all came out before Bioshock. It's not that Bioshock is a bad game or something, it's got a lot of great things going for it, but it still felt like it could be a lot better, and I'm just not going to get excited over a sequel if it's just more of the same. I'll buy it when it goes down in price and I'll enjoy it, but I'll be missing System Shock 2 the whole time.Also, to all the people complaining about Bioshock's gameplay, how many FPS single player games are actually better? The only games I can think were Deus Ex games, System Shock 2(which I unfortunately haven't played but maybe if I played it I would feel the same way that some of the people that criticize Bioshock for being "shallow.") and Thief games...
You're messing with me. You've got to be. Which suburb?Andronicus said:Hehe, I live in MelbourneFunkysandwich said:Do you live in Australia?Andronicus said:Good point. Thing is, I usually only use Steam for indie games or older games. If I'm going to pick up something brand new and a little more mainstream, I'd rather pay for something a little more tangible. Besides, I don't think my broadband would cope if I only ever used Steam.Funkysandwich said:It'll cost you about AU$75 on steam right now.Andronicus said:I still don't know if I'll bother picking this up. If it's more of the same then, while the same is good, I don't think it constitutes shelling out AU$100+ for it. I liked Bioshock one, but I guess I really didn't like it that much. I'm a lot more interested in the locations you get to visit than anything else, but I might as well just check the wiki.
Maybe after a year or so, once it's come down in price a bit, I'll reconsider it.
Having said that, the only thing I liked about Bioshock was the fact that I know someone called Andrew Ryan. Which was pretty funny.
The rest was a bit bleh.
EDIT: Also, hehe, funny about knowing someone called Andrew Ryan. My first name's Andrew and my second name's Ryan. *checks Funkysandwich's location* Err, I don't know you, do I?
Must be pretty awesome being the evil overlord of your own underwater art-deco city.
Well, until you died, that is
Yeah, the whole dying thing was a bit of a setback in my education, but it's nice that 2K decided to make a game chronicling my life achievements, even if I don't quite remember them...
Belgrave. D'you live anywhere around here?Funkysandwich said:You're messing with me. You've got to be. Which suburb?Andronicus said:Hehe, I live in MelbourneFunkysandwich said:Do you live in Australia?Andronicus said:Good point. Thing is, I usually only use Steam for indie games or older games. If I'm going to pick up something brand new and a little more mainstream, I'd rather pay for something a little more tangible. Besides, I don't think my broadband would cope if I only ever used Steam.Funkysandwich said:It'll cost you about AU$75 on steam right now.Andronicus said:I still don't know if I'll bother picking this up. If it's more of the same then, while the same is good, I don't think it constitutes shelling out AU$100+ for it. I liked Bioshock one, but I guess I really didn't like it that much. I'm a lot more interested in the locations you get to visit than anything else, but I might as well just check the wiki.
Maybe after a year or so, once it's come down in price a bit, I'll reconsider it.
Having said that, the only thing I liked about Bioshock was the fact that I know someone called Andrew Ryan. Which was pretty funny.
The rest was a bit bleh.
EDIT: Also, hehe, funny about knowing someone called Andrew Ryan. My first name's Andrew and my second name's Ryan. *checks Funkysandwich's location* Err, I don't know you, do I?
Must be pretty awesome being the evil overlord of your own underwater art-deco city.
Well, until you died, that is
Yeah, the whole dying thing was a bit of a setback in my education, but it's nice that 2K decided to make a game chronicling my life achievements, even if I don't quite remember them...
My thoughts exactly miss Arendt. Bioshock 2 is Bioshock without the really SCARY atmospheric parts from the first half of the game. It' not bad, just... not as good.Susan Arendt said:Ok, having played through more of the game, I finally figured out the best way to describe BioShock 2.
Ok, remember what the later levels of BioShock were like? After you were used to Rapture and Splicers and audio diaries, and the whole rest of it? Levels like Apollo Square and Hephaestus (which I have undoubtedly just spelled wrong). That's what BioShock 2 feels like. It's BioShock, minus the ZOMG of having just discovered this new and wonderful environment.
Make of that what you will.
Russ Pitts offers an explanation here:messy said:Finally someone else noticed; seriously why the scores? I thought the escapist argued that converting a complex opinion into numbers was just pointless.Crimson_Dragoon said:Liked the first one and am glad to hear the second is just as good.
On a related tangent, am I the only one that noticed they included a score (4 out of 5 stars) at the bottom. That's new for their reviews and I'm not sure I like it. I always respected the Escapist for not putting in an arbitrary score (which people will just argue over).
Nah, I live in Mt. Martha, down south.Andronicus said:Belgrave. D'you live anywhere around here?Funkysandwich said:You're messing with me. You've got to be. Which suburb?Andronicus said:Hehe, I live in MelbourneFunkysandwich said:Do you live in Australia?Andronicus said:Good point. Thing is, I usually only use Steam for indie games or older games. If I'm going to pick up something brand new and a little more mainstream, I'd rather pay for something a little more tangible. Besides, I don't think my broadband would cope if I only ever used Steam.Funkysandwich said:It'll cost you about AU$75 on steam right now.Andronicus said:I still don't know if I'll bother picking this up. If it's more of the same then, while the same is good, I don't think it constitutes shelling out AU$100+ for it. I liked Bioshock one, but I guess I really didn't like it that much. I'm a lot more interested in the locations you get to visit than anything else, but I might as well just check the wiki.
Maybe after a year or so, once it's come down in price a bit, I'll reconsider it.
Having said that, the only thing I liked about Bioshock was the fact that I know someone called Andrew Ryan. Which was pretty funny.
The rest was a bit bleh.
EDIT: Also, hehe, funny about knowing someone called Andrew Ryan. My first name's Andrew and my second name's Ryan. *checks Funkysandwich's location* Err, I don't know you, do I?
Must be pretty awesome being the evil overlord of your own underwater art-deco city.
Well, until you died, that is
Yeah, the whole dying thing was a bit of a setback in my education, but it's nice that 2K decided to make a game chronicling my life achievements, even if I don't quite remember them...
Yeah that's one of the challenges of making a sequel, as I stated in the review. Some people expect THE EXACT SAME THING, yet some want something different that's flavored like the original. I think BioShock 2 is a near-perfect mix, but it does feel flat compared to the original because the original was so, if you'll forgive the pun, original.Maraveno said:I know it's silly russ but I'm quoting you directly anyway like thisRuss Pitts said:Review: BioShock 2
BioShock 2 is a hearty second helping that fans of the original game will absolutely love.
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You stated that it borrows to much from the original... But is this not what a sequel is about? What we've always wanted from a sequel?? staying true to the original with aditions fixes and tweaks and a whole new story to roll through??