Review: Nier

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Review: Nier

Crazy costumes, big swords, yep, this is pretty standard fare.

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Onyx Oblivion

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I honestly thought this slipped under the site's radar.

Fan of Square Enix: Yes.

Fan of Action RPGs: Yes.

Fan of chicks swearing in underwear: No.

2/3. Guess I'd better get it.

This game is BEGGING for a demo.
 

Flauros

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Is it me, or does it actually sound pretty awesome?

Each dungeon represents a different gametype, including a farming sim and a text adventure?

Buti guess teh same combos over and over would get kind of boring...
 

Jared

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I like the look of it, but, I will likely be one to pick up up down the track some point.

There are some nice little aspects of it, but, not enough for me to want to commit too much...and, the article pretty much confirm that for me too
 

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My friend has this game and I think I watched him play for about 3 1/2 minutes before my id demanded I go buy it. Looks so much fun!

Now if I can just be bothered to traipse into town...
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
I honestly thought this slipped under the site's radar.

Fan of Square Enix: Yes.

Fan of Action RPGs: Yes.

Fan of chicks swearing in underwear: No.

2/3. Guess I'd better get it.
what about hot chicks swearing in their underwear? :)

EDIT: Incidentally I bought this during the week for £12.49. Yeah, there's no typo there.
 

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aaronmcc said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
I honestly thought this slipped under the site's radar.

Fan of Square Enix: Yes.

Fan of Action RPGs: Yes.

Fan of chicks swearing in underwear: No.

2/3. Guess I'd better get it.
what about hot chicks swearing in their underwear? :)

EDIT: Incidentally I bought this during the week for £12.49. Yeah, there's no typo there.
I'd just like to point out that canonically speaking, said hot chick is a hermaphrodite, canonically speaking.
 

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xitel said:
aaronmcc said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
I honestly thought this slipped under the site's radar.

Fan of Square Enix: Yes.

Fan of Action RPGs: Yes.

Fan of chicks swearing in underwear: No.

2/3. Guess I'd better get it.
what about hot chicks swearing in their underwear? :)

EDIT: Incidentally I bought this during the week for £12.49. Yeah, there's no typo there.
I'd just like to point out that canonically speaking, said hot chick is a hermaphrodite, canonically speaking.
lol

EDIT: ok Onyx what about hot hermaphrodite chicks swearing in their underwear?
 

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This sounds like it would have been a good game for the JRPG set, if only it had come out on a slower year. Coming out this late after FFXIII isn't doing it any favors. Same with Mass Effect 2, Dante's Inferno, Dragon Age Origins, etc. On the other hand:
Flauros said:
Is it me, or does it actually sound pretty awesome?

Each dungeon represents a different gametype, including a farming sim and a text adventure?

Buti guess teh same combos over and over would get kind of boring...
Exactly this. Didn't think about it till I saw this, I love the idea of having a turn of Zork intermixed with turns of Farmville, Sim City, Oblivion, Halo, Zelda, etc. Doesn't sound like the main focus of this game. But a game of nothing but that - like a Warioware without the time-constraint, that would be sweet.
 

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'Mommy, why's the TV calling me a little *****?'

Best line I've heard this week.

The game's faults feel like the developers are repeatingly kicking me in the balls but I can not... stop playing.

Overall, it's an ok game i guess.
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
I honestly thought this slipped under the site's radar.

Fan of Square Enix: Yes.

Fan of Action RPGs: Yes.

Fan of chicks swearing in underwear: No.

2/3. Guess I'd better get it.

This game is BEGGING for a demo.
Beat it last week (4 times mind you for 4 different endings) with all but 1 quest completed -- the damned "pink moonflower seeds" just couldn't be effectively done on a rental. My advice is: rent it. It's pretty short and easy. I got 90% of the available trophies in 1 week.

But it is worth a go.

The battle with the giant shade through the hometown was one of the most fun boss fights I played all year!

I've just rented Star Ocean 4: International and that feels like a purchase to me. Enough content to keep me satisfied for a few weeks anyway.
 

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Very good review! Really sums the game up well. I'm about 15 hours into it and it has been pretty fun. Nothing groundbreaking but it will keep me occupied until Red Dead Redemption comes out next week. :D
 

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s69-5 said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
I honestly thought this slipped under the site's radar.

Fan of Square Enix: Yes.

Fan of Action RPGs: Yes.

Fan of chicks swearing in underwear: No.

2/3. Guess I'd better get it.

This game is BEGGING for a demo.
Beat it last week (4 times mind you with all but 1 quest completed -- the damned "pink moonflower seeds" just couldn't be effectively done on a rental. My advice is: rent it. It's pretty short and easy. I got 90% of the available trophies in 1 week.

But it is worth a go.

The battle with the giant shade through the hometown was one of the most fun boss fights I played all year!

I've just rented Star Ocean 4: International and that feels like a purchase to me. Enough content to keep me satisfied for a few weeks anyway.
Don't even bother trying for all Battle Trophies, though. That achievement/trophy requires dedication of an unprecedented level. I loved the combat, liked the plot, hated the characters, hated the dialogue. And no, I'm NOT switching the audio the Japanese.
 

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Ghostwise said:
Very good review! Really sums the game up well. I'm about 15 hours into it and it has been pretty fun. Nothing groundbreaking but it will keep me occupied until Red Dead Redemption comes out next week. :D
How far in are you game wise?
Have you met Emil yet, has he come to your hometown?

Loved that boss battle. That was one of the best boss fights I've played all year!
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
s69-5 said:
I've just rented Star Ocean 4: International and that feels like a purchase to me. Enough content to keep me satisfied for a few weeks anyway.
Don't even bother trying for all Battle Trophies, though. That achievement/trophy requires dedication of an unprecedented level. I loved the combat, liked the plot, hated the characters, hated the dialogue. And no, I'm NOT switching the audio the Japanese.
I already switched mine to Japanese... My wife is even looking into the game as she is excited by the prospect of turning all of the menus into Japanese as well...

EDIT: Yeah, Star Ocean battle trophies are always insane. I think I MIGHT have gotten 50% in SO3.
I had the "voice board" in SO2 at about 60%...
 

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This looks like the sort of thing I miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight consider checking out later, when I've got some free time and there's not much else coming out. Or I might rent it.

Sounds like it's pretty standard fare, but if it's wrapped up in a slightly weird aesthetic that might be enough for me. I like weird. Plus I find the idea of a grown woman shouting at a book hilarious.
 

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s69-5 said:
Ghostwise said:
Very good review! Really sums the game up well. I'm about 15 hours into it and it has been pretty fun. Nothing groundbreaking but it will keep me occupied until Red Dead Redemption comes out next week. :D
How far in are you game wise?
Have you met Emil yet, has he come to your hometown?

Loved that boss battle. That was one of the best boss fights I've played all year!
He's become a character out of a Tim Burton film. Some of the boss battles in this game are just insane.
 

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I can see where the reviewer is coming from, however saying nothing new is a slap in the face. The fact that it alone takes so many different game play elements is something new and refreshing. I was just shocked when each new dungeon I went to was something completely different and the good old MUD days were relived when doing the tasks in the forest of myth. At times the story seems like they just drew straws to go a certain way with it, but it is a pretty damn good one, specially for JRPG standards. I had fun with it and it will be an RPG that will sit on my shelf and play again down the road.

If you are on the fence about it, rent it's well worth the rental. However if you are an JRPG lover of all colors this will be something you will want to hold on to because I don't think we will ever get something this cool and gameplay changing again at least in this genre.
 

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You should mention, however, that that the chick who swears while wearing (only) her underwear has a penis.

So... uh... you should probably not let that last reason be part of your buying criteria.
*Snob-Snob*

Alright, but seriously, the game looks like it will be fun, albeit not top-notch, and I'll probably get it when the price drops, but I don't know if I want to play through the game 4 times to get the 4 endings (or however you get the four endings.)
 

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Mstrswrd said:
You should mention, however, that that the chick who swears while wearing (only) her underwear has a penis.

So... uh... you should probably not let that last reason be part of your buying criteria.
*Snob-Snob*

Alright, but seriously, the game looks like it will be fun, albeit not top-notch, and I'll probably get it when the price drops, but I don't know if I want to play through the game 4 times to get the 4 endings (or however you get the four endings.)
You only need to replay the last third of the game. The beginning is only played once. The game also remembers what quests are complete and those carry over (as well as weapons, words, level and spells). So it's not too bad. Like I said previously, I got 90% of all trophies and all 4 endings in 1 week.

I was only about $80,000 away from the $1,000,000 trophy before I had to return it to the rental shop so that would have been 91%. I think I was missing maybe 4 - 5 trophies total.
 

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Not my kind of game, but I feel to compelled to share the fact that "nier" means "kidney" in Dutch.

That's probably not relevant to anything at all, though.
 

Sonicron

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Awww, come on!!! Not even one little mention of the absolutely amazing soundtrack?!
 

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Sonicron said:
Awww, come on!!! Not even one little mention of the absolutely amazing soundtrack?!
That was maybe my only real minus with the game. It was cool at first, but soon it got REALLY repetitive. I think the music loops too often (or is just too similar from "verse" to "verse").
 

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s69-5 said:
Sonicron said:
Awww, come on!!! Not even one little mention of the absolutely amazing soundtrack?!
That was maybe my only real minus with the game. It was cool at first, but soon it got REALLY repetitive. I think the music loops too often (or is just too similar from "verse" to "verse").
It gets a bit repetitive when you're grinding sidequests, but other than that there's huge variety in it. The OST contains 2 discs, packed full with tracks.
 

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Well, you've done enough to make me interested in this once the price drops a bit. Right now, though, I don't have Nier the budget required to buy this new.
 

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gotta say i absolutely LOVED grimoire weiss's voice, its just orgasmic and hes so sarcastic, its hilarious as hell
 

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I disagree. I am about 15 -20 hours in and I am loving it. I know the sidequests are repetative (they are all delivery or fetch quests) and I am constantly backtracking. Things that in any other game would have me popping in a different disc. I don't mind it at all in Nier. I love the characters and I am immersed in the game. Could be because I'm a father myself so his motivation is something I can relate to. I am loving the story because it isn't spoonfeeding me or bogging me down with BS. It feels natural (even though one of the characters is a talking book with an attitude). My big complaint and something that should be in any proffesional review is the fishing. Not that the fishing is bad once you get the hang of it. The instructions both ingame and in the manual (which I am happy to report is like a real manual from days past) are wrong. This can lead to frustration when you are given the first fishing quest (which is mandatory).
 

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squid5580 said:
I disagree. I am about 15 -20 hours in and I am loving it. I know the sidequests are repetative (they are all delivery or fetch quests) and I am constantly backtracking. Things that in any other game would have me popping in a different disc. I don't mind it at all in Nier. I love the characters and I am immersed in the game. Could be because I'm a father myself so his motivation is something I can relate to. I am loving the story because it isn't spoonfeeding me or bogging me down with BS. It feels natural (even though one of the characters is a talking book with an attitude). My big complaint and something that should be in any proffesional review is the fishing. Not that the fishing is bad once you get the hang of it. The instructions both ingame and in the manual (which I am happy to report is like a real manual from days past) are wrong. This can lead to frustration when you are given the first fishing quest (which is mandatory).
Ooh boy, I cursed the fishing at first, until I learned to NOT PRESS X! Just pulled back on the analog stick and then I was able to catch me some fish. I ended up catching 'em all (kind of like Pokemon, if I were younger).

But yeah, the fishing explanation (and quest information) is pretty vague.
 

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s69-5 said:
squid5580 said:
I disagree. I am about 15 -20 hours in and I am loving it. I know the sidequests are repetative (they are all delivery or fetch quests) and I am constantly backtracking. Things that in any other game would have me popping in a different disc. I don't mind it at all in Nier. I love the characters and I am immersed in the game. Could be because I'm a father myself so his motivation is something I can relate to. I am loving the story because it isn't spoonfeeding me or bogging me down with BS. It feels natural (even though one of the characters is a talking book with an attitude). My big complaint and something that should be in any proffesional review is the fishing. Not that the fishing is bad once you get the hang of it. The instructions both ingame and in the manual (which I am happy to report is like a real manual from days past) are wrong. This can lead to frustration when you are given the first fishing quest (which is mandatory).
Ooh boy, I cursed the fishing at first, until I learned to NOT PRESS X! Just pulled back on the analog stick and then I was able to catch me some fish. I ended up catching 'em all (kind of like Pokemon, if I were younger).

But yeah, the fishing explanation (and quest information) is pretty vague.
Well we can't blame the beach thing on the game since there is the big red X where you are supposed to fish lol (ya I got suckered by him as well). it is the whole press left or right without telling you hold down and angle it slightly that killed me. Now I'm a pro though. None of this fishing for 20 minutes for 1 fish like a lot of people are bitching about (which is thier own fault for trying to catch fish above thier level)
 

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I just rented the game, it's pretty good, great storyline, but yeah, the gameplay does get rather repetetive as it goes on, pretty much just found myself using the Phoenix spear and Dark Lance for everything, mainly cause by the end of the game, you don't have enough time to stick around for a long combo, so just smacking [Y] for the quick spear charge was the easiest way of beating everything.

Personally, I wish the game had taken place in the snowy post-apocalyptic city from the intro, seemed like a much better setting for a game of this style than the one they went with [A.K.A, Hyrule].

Oh yea, anyone else totally not give a damn what happened to Yonah? I mean, I get that saving her is supposed to be the main focus of the game, but it never really made an effort to make me care about her, the game just sort of said "Here, this is your daughter, she's sick with some obscure disease that we're not going to bother explaining until the last 60 seconds of the game, go save her". Cared way more about Weiss, Kaine, and Emil. Hell, I even cared more about Devola and Popola than I did Yonah, and they're pretty much just faceless NPCs until the end of the game.
 

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squid5580 said:
s69-5 said:
squid5580 said:
I disagree. I am about 15 -20 hours in and I am loving it. I know the sidequests are repetative (they are all delivery or fetch quests) and I am constantly backtracking. Things that in any other game would have me popping in a different disc. I don't mind it at all in Nier. I love the characters and I am immersed in the game. Could be because I'm a father myself so his motivation is something I can relate to. I am loving the story because it isn't spoonfeeding me or bogging me down with BS. It feels natural (even though one of the characters is a talking book with an attitude). My big complaint and something that should be in any proffesional review is the fishing. Not that the fishing is bad once you get the hang of it. The instructions both ingame and in the manual (which I am happy to report is like a real manual from days past) are wrong. This can lead to frustration when you are given the first fishing quest (which is mandatory).
Ooh boy, I cursed the fishing at first, until I learned to NOT PRESS X! Just pulled back on the analog stick and then I was able to catch me some fish. I ended up catching 'em all (kind of like Pokemon, if I were younger).

But yeah, the fishing explanation (and quest information) is pretty vague.
Well we can't blame the beach thing on the game since there is the big red X where you are supposed to fish lol (ya I got suckered by him as well). it is the whole press left or right without telling you hold down and angle it slightly that killed me. Now I'm a pro though. None of this fishing for 20 minutes for 1 fish like a lot of people are bitching about (which is thier own fault for trying to catch fish above thier level)
I meant pressing X to reel in the fish once you've got a bite (then pressing back). It was WAY easier to just pull the analog stick back as it automatically sets you in the proper position.
 

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s69-5 said:
squid5580 said:
s69-5 said:
squid5580 said:
I disagree. I am about 15 -20 hours in and I am loving it. I know the sidequests are repetative (they are all delivery or fetch quests) and I am constantly backtracking. Things that in any other game would have me popping in a different disc. I don't mind it at all in Nier. I love the characters and I am immersed in the game. Could be because I'm a father myself so his motivation is something I can relate to. I am loving the story because it isn't spoonfeeding me or bogging me down with BS. It feels natural (even though one of the characters is a talking book with an attitude). My big complaint and something that should be in any proffesional review is the fishing. Not that the fishing is bad once you get the hang of it. The instructions both ingame and in the manual (which I am happy to report is like a real manual from days past) are wrong. This can lead to frustration when you are given the first fishing quest (which is mandatory).
Ooh boy, I cursed the fishing at first, until I learned to NOT PRESS X! Just pulled back on the analog stick and then I was able to catch me some fish. I ended up catching 'em all (kind of like Pokemon, if I were younger).

But yeah, the fishing explanation (and quest information) is pretty vague.
Well we can't blame the beach thing on the game since there is the big red X where you are supposed to fish lol (ya I got suckered by him as well). it is the whole press left or right without telling you hold down and angle it slightly that killed me. Now I'm a pro though. None of this fishing for 20 minutes for 1 fish like a lot of people are bitching about (which is thier own fault for trying to catch fish above thier level)
I meant pressing X to reel in the fish once you've got a bite (then pressing back). It was WAY easier to just pull the analog stick back as it automatically sets you in the proper position.
I find it easier to hit X personally. Fish bites, hit X once, hold down stick and angle accordingly. This system has worked for me for all 5 gambits and the 5 sharks for the innkeeper (this is for the PS3 version).
 

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I was excited for this a while back and by watching gameplay, I can't understand why people only give it "okay" reviews.

It seems like something I'd thoroughly enjoy, so I'll pick it up myself.

But only when the price goes down. I hardly ever pay full price for games anymore.
 

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my god a game called kidney in dutch!?
anyway interesting review will probably never play it (no consoles here)
 

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A game that opens up with Laura Bailey calling be a little *****?

this game, I must haz it
 

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sanzo said:
A game that opens up with Laura Bailey calling be a little *****?

this game, I must haz it
Kaine is calling the book a little *****... not the main character. And it's about halfway through in the actual game, though the devs did put it in before you press start.
 

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s69-5 said:
sanzo said:
A game that opens up with Laura Bailey calling be a little *****?

this game, I must haz it
Kaine is calling the book a little *****... not the main character. And it's about halfway through in the actual game, though the devs did put it in before you press start.
Either way, it's cool. Laura Bailey is one of my favorite VAs, so her being in the game is an immediate plus
 

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Mstrswrd said:
You should mention, however, that that the chick who swears while wearing (only) her underwear has a penis.
Although I was aware of this fact, and it certainly makes some her actions make a little more sense, this fact was not mentioned or *gasp* shown in the game.

I think this was dumbed-down a bit for the American version, which reinforces the calculated feel of the whole game.
 

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Bennet the sage mentioned this game a bit ago. He made it sound like a fairly good game but he said the writing is hard to understand. Which I would have added the game to my list if not for that nugget. Everything else in the game sounded pretty good. It's very long though. I'm thinking this game would be territory for jrpg gamers. People outside the circle may not like it so much.
 

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Greg Tito said:
Mstrswrd said:
You should mention, however, that that the chick who swears while wearing (only) her underwear has a penis.
Although I was aware of this fact, and it certainly makes some her actions make a little more sense, this fact was not mentioned or *gasp* shown in the game.

I think this was dumbed-down a bit for the American version, which reinforces the calculated feel of the whole game.
It is if you start playing Ending B.
 

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Possibly minor spoilers:

I'm still playing the game (going for ending C right now) and I've enjoyed it pretty much the entire way through, though the Game+ option (if you can call it that) added a new layer to the story that I hadn't at all expected. The fact that you still have to do the exact same things, since it's only the players, and not the characters, who get an insight into the bigger picture makes it all a little chilling, in a way that makes me want to see it all.

I must admit that at certain points in the second round I felt like I was the monster.
 

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Flauros said:
Is it me, or does it actually sound pretty awesome?

Each dungeon represents a different gametype, including a farming sim and a text adventure?

Buti guess teh same combos over and over would get kind of boring...
Not just you....the review totally sold me on this game I was going to overlook. Between the lines I am reading "jaded reviewer misses a sense of greatness due to burnout/playing game at the wrong time." Or at least I hope so, because everything Nier was described as sounds really, really interesting to me. Much more so than other recent ventures in to the genre.
 

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So, the sexy, half-nekkid *****'s not gonna cut it, huh? Must be really boring then, indeed.

Next.
 

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You know what? I like this precedent. A JRPG that plays as the opposite of FFXIII. Sounds like a step in the right direction, one I've been waiting for since freakin' Vagrant Story.
 

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This is one of those baffling medium production value games, that you just know will flop from day 1.
Even the commercial whores at IGN and gamespot gave this game only a mediocre score, which illustrates how bad the game really is.

Cannot help but wonder why the publisher and the devs just go ahead and publish the game in such state anyway, instead of doing the sensible thing of cancelling it in the early development stage or atleast correct it's course halfway.
Apart from the graphics and lame ass story, many of it's flaws don't sound too hard to both point out and fix during development.
 

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Cannot help but wonder why the publisher and the devs just go ahead and publish the game in such state anyway...
Probably because it has been cheap enough to justify a release anyway.
 

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I got this game if only because it's one of the few JRPGs that held my attention past 5 seconds. While I haven't gotten too far into the game (stuck on trying to get to the highest house in Aerie), I can say that for what it is, it isn't bad. Lacking, yes, but not bad. Nier's character kinda contradicts himself (the instruction manual says he's all gentle and benevolent, yet he sounds really gruff and impatient), and all the female characters seem to look the same. But at least the music is cool and the fights are kinda fun (except against the goats and boars... god tier just like the cuckoos from Zelda).
 

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Varewulf said:
Possibly minor spoilers:

I'm still playing the game (going for ending C right now) and I've enjoyed it pretty much the entire way through, though the Game+ option (if you can call it that) added a new layer to the story that I hadn't at all expected. The fact that you still have to do the exact same things, since it's only the players, and not the characters, who get an insight into the bigger picture makes it all a little chilling, in a way that makes me want to see it all.

I must admit that at certain points in the second round I felt like I was the monster.
"Hey, don't we already have that sword?". I loved that bit.

And hey, I'm trying for C too. I've been wondering if I even got all of the weapons from part 1 though. The game just started me in part 2.

Anyway, anyone who is considering buying it, just go and buy it now. Consider this an order.