Review: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves

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Review: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves

Uncharted 2 is rather a lot like its leading man, Nathan Drake - flawed, but utterly irresistible.

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Susan Arendt would quite possibly pass out from sheer glee if someone made an Uncharted movie starring Nathan Fillion.
No! Bad Susan! Nathan Fillion needs to stay away from the games I like! Besides, if (when?) they make an Uncharted movie, surely they should just use the actors that voiced and portrayed the characters in the games?

Damnnit, I cancelled my pre-order for this because I'm trying to save money but I can't help but hear good things about this, now I fear that I'm gonna have to buy it.
 

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Speaking as an experienced climber, no thats not right, or even possible. To be honest though throughout advertising this look bland and a bit generic, however im surprised, if I had a PS3 i'd get this!
 

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"Susan Arendt would quite possibly pass out from sheer glee if someone made an Uncharted movie starring Nathan Fillion."

That's because anything with Nathan Fillion in it is made of sexiness and awesome.
 

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Yes Susan we are all aware of your deep seated fantasies about Nathan Fillion and Nathan Drake, or both at the same time.
 

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"We certainly are among thieves, thieves of Tomb Raider, thieves of Indiana Jones, OH SNAP!"
 

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Damnit.

[sup]I litterally am the only person who doesn't like this game. It's pretty though, I'll give it that.[/sup]
 

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Well this is interesting. I just learned a pick-up line from Nathan Drake.

Listen closely. You'll catch it.
 

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hmm.. Having not played the first one, i cant really say anything.. however.

This looks like a bad combination of Prince of Persia and Gears of War. Combining a dumbed down version of Gears gunplay and a less acrobatic and less exciting version of Prince of Persia exploration and melee combat.

About 3 of my friends with a PS3 have been saying this game will be the best and win GOTY.. I really cant see it.

If I want to play a game that is pretty much Indiana Jones, Ill stick to Sperlunky.
 

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Undead Dragon King said:
Well this is interesting. I just learned a pick-up line from Nathan Drake.

Listen closely. You'll catch it.
Boy, its a shame you have to sit on something that pretty.
 

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Undead Dragon King said:
Well this is interesting. I just learned a pick-up line from Nathan Drake.

Listen closely. You'll catch it.
It was highly amusing. I'm stealing it.

It looks awesome, much better than the first, but I have just one question:

Is this a straight tomb-raiding bullet-a-thon, or did they throw in a paranormal twist again? Because the first was beautiful up until the zombies. I politely returned it at that point.
 

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'This is what Tome Raiding should be like' only with less boobs // Watchin the movements of the game I get the feeling as if I have seen it before, like in Assassin Creed and Arkham Asylum so there is nothing new there but I will give you this, the settings and environments are beautiful with what looks likes some interesting puzzles but I am prod goin to be sayin the same thing about Assassin Creed II in about a month

But I have to ask, why do game developers have to insist that the main bad guy have so many henchmen! I mean it looks like the guy hired every guy that owned a gun with in 100miles of this place, and all just to kill one guy and or steal stuff for him // Cant they come up with something new // Now Im not sure what that could be they have more money/people than me so they should be able to come up with something

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I just finished it today.

It's a sequel in the truest sense, meaning it's more of the same only bigger and better. The story was a bit stringy though and I missed the pirates. And the new characters (apart from Chloe ofcourse) didn't really make as much of an impact. But the action was pretty f*cking fenomenal..........................after you get passed that horrible museum level where you're only allowed to use steath.

Please Naughty Dog, don't ever try to make a 'steath only' level AGAIN.
 

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It amuses me how desperately hard people are trying to hate this game without even playing it.

My opinion doesn't count however as I am intensely biased, anything with the label "old fashioned adventure" that carries the pulpy vibe of Indiana Jones is an instant sell. Definately need to agree with Susan on one thing though, the Helicopter/Missiles/Hotel moment was intensely awesome, and not handled with a cutscene.

EDIT: The man above me is right, Naughty Dog should NEVER make a purely Stealth Level again, that was 1/2 an hour of pure torture! Thankfully they get that out of the way right at the beginning and you NEVER SEE ANYTHING LIKE IT AGAIN.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
Indiana Jones, I hope you're paying attention: This is how tomb raiding is supposed to be.
Haha...Drake is the modern adventurer that "everyman" can relate to. But Indiana Jones is still another species. At best, you can say Drake probably glanced at a few Indiana Jones films when he was a kid, but was too busy reenacting some crazy scenes to adopt some of the finer characteristics.

Indie has his iconic bullwhip and hat. Drake has his sense of humor.

Indie has intellect and isn't above using his fists. Drake has his youth and whips out a gun quite often.

Indie is a respected archaeologist. Drake...uhh, I dunno if he passed college actually...

Indie does a fair amount of research before chasing his artifact. Drake kinda acts dim, but then pulls 16th century Spanish history and the Indonesian language out of nowhere.

Indie fought Nazis. Drake fought mercenaries.

Indie sought to bring artifacts to a museum and make sure they didn't fall into the wrong hands. Drake seems to enjoy the hunt more than anything else. (I also wonder where that treasure ended up going...)

At the end of the day, they are only vaguely similar...like comparing realistic "fencing" with the amusing "insult-swordfighting".

Susan Arendt said:
Susan Arendt would quite possibly pass out from sheer glee if someone made an Uncharted movie starring Nathan Fillion.
Fillion looks like the closest thing to Nathan Drake, but he appears a bit older. (oh well, thats what make-up is for...)

Now I'd like to see Indiana Jones vs Nathan Drake for an artifact...might just help redeem Hollywood for that Crystal Skull garbage...
 

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hansari said:
Indie has intellect and isn't above using his fists. Drake has his youth and whips out a gun quite often.
Clearly you haven't played the game, nor watched the Indy flicks closely enough. Drake actually DOESN'T like guns, comes up during the museum level (but its weird since he then uses them without a peep for the rest of the game to mow down entire legions of enemies), but depending on your play style fisticuffs come in quite a bit. Also Indy uses guns too. Watch Raiders of the lost arc again, when he is Cairo he shoots a half dozen guys, including the dual sword wielding guy in the crowd scene.

Anyways I am a few levels in and am entranced. Love the game but I have a bone to pick with the pacing. For optimal storytelling you need moments of excitement followed by moments of calmness. You can't have the audience running on adrenaline for the entire story, Uncharted 2 seems to do this not in the cut-scenes so much, but in the gameplay set pieces. It moves from one encounter to another very quickly giving very little downtime, or opportunity to say "I finished this level, I can stop for now." there seems (at least how far I've gotten in) to be very few of those. But that is a minor gripe in an amazing game.

Also I felt the best character development was not in the cut-scenes but during the little in-game quips tossed back and forth. Really added the perfect touch to flesh out the scenes.
 

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PedroSteckecilo said:
It amuses me how desperately hard people are trying to hate this game without even playing it.

My opinion doesn't count however as I am intensely biased, anything with the label "old fashioned adventure" that carries the pulpy vibe of Indiana Jones is an instant sell. Definately need to agree with Susan on one thing though, the Helicopter/Missiles/Hotel moment was intensely awesome, and not handled with a cutscene.

EDIT: The man above me is right, Naughty Dog should NEVER make a purely Stealth Level again, that was 1/2 an hour of pure torture! Thankfully they get that out of the way right at the beginning and you NEVER SEE ANYTHING LIKE IT AGAIN.
So I'm not the only person who hated that museum level? Ok, cool, good to know. Drove me nuts.

And given that Nathan Drake's personality is based largely on Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Fillion seems like the obvious choice for the film. And if they want to cast the magnificent Claudia Black as Chloe, that's fine by me, too.
 

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I wonder how many people hating it have actually played it, or own 360s for that matter...........

Ahhh well, their loss if they have nothing better to do. Just from playing the beta I knew this game would be amazing. The first game is one of my favourite games this gen so for this to surpass makes it that much sweeter. After this I will probably buy Demons Souls, then Ratchet and Clank ACIT, and I still haven't bought inFAMOUS, then there's Heavy Rain, MAG, Agent, The Last Guardian and everything next year AND all the multiplats. Damn, I need another job.
 

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PedroSteckecilo said:
It amuses me how desperately hard people are trying to hate this game without even playing it.

My opinion doesn't count however as I am intensely biased, anything with the label "old fashioned adventure" that carries the pulpy vibe of Indiana Jones is an instant sell. Definately need to agree with Susan on one thing though, the Helicopter/Missiles/Hotel moment was intensely awesome, and not handled with a cutscene.

EDIT: The man above me is right, Naughty Dog should NEVER make a purely Stealth Level again, that was 1/2 an hour of pure torture! Thankfully they get that out of the way right at the beginning and you NEVER SEE ANYTHING LIKE IT AGAIN.
What made it even more aggravating was that right after that horrible courtyard section, what's-his-face gives you a tranquilizer gun. Christ, if he just gave me that from the getgo I wouldn't have to suffer through that awful part.

But I'm biased toward Naughty Dog so I'll always love whatever they do.
 

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Eagle Est1986 said:
Susan Arendt would quite possibly pass out from sheer glee if someone made an Uncharted movie starring Nathan Fillion.
No! Bad Susan! Nathan Fillion needs to stay away from the games I like! Besides, if (when?) they make an Uncharted movie, surely they should just use the actors that voiced and portrayed the characters in the games?

Damnnit, I cancelled my pre-order for this because I'm trying to save money but I can't help but hear good things about this, now I fear that I'm gonna have to buy it.
I say rent first. That way if you hate it you didn't lose 60 dollars.
 

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Uncharted movie
An Uncharted movie has been in the works since the first game.And it has the same cast that plays the characters.

OT:Can´t wait to get this game.Just finished the first one 2 days ago.
 

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The game really is that that good. I also didn't finish the game, but I'm getting dangerously close to the end, and I've been playing some multiplayer now to alleviate the pain that I know I'll feel when I see the ending credits roll. Fantastic game, in all aspects. The single-player is definitely the best part of the game (thankfully).
 

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Fortesque said:
hmm.. Having not played the first one, i cant really say anything.. however.

This looks like a bad combination of Prince of Persia and Gears of War. Combining a dumbed down version of Gears gunplay and a less acrobatic and less exciting version of Prince of Persia exploration and melee combat.

About 3 of my friends with a PS3 have been saying this game will be the best and win GOTY.. I really cant see it.

If I want to play a game that is pretty much Indiana Jones, Ill stick to Sperlunky.
You can't dumb down Gear's gunplay, it's already the most basic gunplay there is. At least this combines it with the climbing elements. And you act like Gears is all original and unique. Oh well, at least this game has a story, and well thought out characters other than homoerotic macho retards. Plus even the BETA of this game runs better than Gears of Wars laggy multiplayer. 360 fanboys at their best ehhh. I guess the've got nothing else to look forward to so try to bring down the PS3 games. Maybe you will be able to afford one someday :)
 

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Also...why can't people appreciate a game for being a game? Regardless of what system its on? I guess I just have too much common sense for my own good. -_-
 

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Susan Arendt said:
RAND00M said:
Eagle Est1986 said:
Uncharted movie
An Uncharted movie has been in the works since the first game.And it has the same cast that plays the characters.
I'm fine with that, as well. I just plain love the characters.
I'd be surprised if a movie version could reach the visual splendour of Drake's Fortune and especially Among Thieves.

If they are making a live action movie with the voice actors, I suggest they hurry since Nolan North is probably pushing 40 if he isn't already.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
RAND00M said:
Eagle Est1986 said:
Uncharted movie
An Uncharted movie has been in the works since the first game.And it has the same cast that plays the characters.
I'm fine with that, as well. I just plain love the characters.
I understand that completely.I mean,if i were gay then i would be all over Nathan Drake.But i'll drool over Elena instead.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Susan Arendt said:
RAND00M said:
Eagle Est1986 said:
Uncharted movie
An Uncharted movie has been in the works since the first game.And it has the same cast that plays the characters.
I'm fine with that, as well. I just plain love the characters.
I'd be surprised if a movie version could reach the visual splendour of Drake's Fortune and especially Among Thieves.

If they are making a live action movie with the voice actors, I suggest they hurry since Nolan North is probably pushing 40 if he isn't already.
That isn't stopping him apperently.You do know that all the cutscenes are first done in live action and then moved into video game graphics.
 
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I love this game, Naughty Dog seems to be able to bend every Sony platform to its will.

Hell, the demo had about as much, and sometimes even more content than most $15 downloadable games.

And did anyone else notice any load screens while playing through the campaign? I'm playing through a second time and the only load screen I noticed was when I hit "Start game." After that, I don't believe I encountered any load screens. Which in itself is an amazing accomplishment.

Artemus_Cain said:
"I'm sorry... do you have a plan to go along with that grenade?"

That was... pretty good actually.
You need to hear all the bad puns in the game, their in the "so bad their good" category.

Especially the part where Drake and Chloe are on top of a hotel with a pool, you jump in, and he starts saying "Marco" and tried to get Chloe to play marco polo. And when he got out he said "Fish out of water!"

I laughed my ass off.
 

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I agree with Susan on all her points. One thing that I enjoyed that none of the reviews I've read for it brought up is that it does offer many chances to be stealthy. I enjoyed this because A) it was pretty cool for what it as and B) because the guys just didn't seem to magically know you were in the area when you got there. Although in several cases it would be pretty hard not to know if the enemies could here the string of explosions heading their way. I'm surprised Susan didn't mention the multiplayer, which I found to be quite exceptional. It is just plain hard to be bad at the multiplayer if you're any good at the single player. It plays just like the single player as far as jumping, climbing, and steal/action combat. It's also one of the rare occasions that a game has both a great story and great multiplayer.
As far as Fillion playing Drake goes, I think it would be a good choice. The whole game I kept questioning if it was him doing the voice over till I eventually looked it up.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
I'd be surprised if a movie version could reach the visual splendour of Drake's Fortune and especially Among Thieves.
If they really needed to do it they could film almost the entire thing over a green screen and have the animators go back and really get down to detail especially with the materials. This is used in actual animation the one big problem? Making thing super photo realistic takes a fuck ton of time to render. I mean we are talking about 48-150 hours for EACH frame to render.
Mind you 60 seconds is about 1800 frames.

Irridium said:
Especially the part where Drake and Chloe are on top of a hotel with a pool, you jump in, and he starts saying "Marco" and tried to get Chloe to play marco polo. And when he got out he said "Fish out of water!"
That part was just fucking hilarious. XD
 

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I could totally see Drake played by Nathan Fillion. But then again, Nathan Fillion is only the coolest guy alive, EVER.
 

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I've played the first one and absolutely loved it. And judging by everything I've heard about the second one it's gonna kick equally much ass. I can't wait to get it :)
 

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Now I'm officially convinced that I need to get a job to get the money for this game. It looks so bad ass and epic.
 

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Shinoki said:
Clearly you haven't played the game, nor watched the Indy flicks closely enough. Drake actually DOESN'T like guns, comes up during the museum level (but its weird since he then uses them without a peep for the rest of the game to mow down entire legions of enemies), but depending on your play style fisticuffs come in quite a bit. Also Indy uses guns too. Watch Raiders of the lost arc again, when he is Cairo he shoots a half dozen guys, including the dual sword wielding guy in the crowd scene.
Of course there are gonna be some incidents when the rules change. What I was speaking of though was in general. Indiana Jones uses his firearm at times, but those few moments are typically overshadowed by how he handles situations in the rest of the movie.

Ex. I don't remember him spraying those guys. I'm sure it happened in Raider of the Lost Ark, but I can't recall it over the chase scenes, the interception of the Ark transport, the tiny uniform in nazi sub, and fisticuffs under airplane.

If it happened more often though, I would probably remember it like the dualsword gunshot (which was comical)

As for Drake, I admit I've never played the game firsthand. But all the gameplay I've seen suggests shooting is a normal routine. (Its about gameplay choice like you said, but a lot of scenes make shooting the more reasonable conclusion)
 

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Great review. I've also put out finishing it too (at 80%), because then all the goodness will come to an end. The story and adventurous feeling really is the best part, but the gameplay is top-notch too. The graphics and art vary from very good to photorealistic, and the sound has DTS (with other options too), so it's a technological masterpiece too.

Heard good things about the multiplayer too, might take a look at it sometime.
 

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Susan Arendt would quite possibly pass out from sheer glee if someone made an Uncharted movie starring Nathan Fillion.
Yup. Thought the same thing with every trailer I watched.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
PedroSteckecilo said:
So I'm not the only person who hated that museum level? Ok, cool, good to know. Drove me nuts.

And given that Nathan Drake's personality is based largely on Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Fillion seems like the obvious choice for the film. And if they want to cast the magnificent Claudia Black as Chloe, that's fine by me, too.
Really, Drake is inspired by Malcolm Reynolds? That's funny... really funny, as I recall Nathan Fillion has stated several times that he modeled his portrayal of Mal Reynolds on Indiana Jones rather than Han Solo to give the character a bit more heroic charm, which sort of makes this an odd logic loop of loveable rogues based on loveable rogues inspired by loveable rogues.
 

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Considering that I was planning on getting this game no matter what the reviews said, I'm liking the positive feedback.

I'm not surprised, of course. If it's anything like the first Uncharted it'll be awesome and well worth the investment. Drake's Fortune was a lot better than a lot of Escapists gave it credit for in my opinion.
 

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Just started the game, and it is pretty sweet. Heard a lot of people complaining about the museum level where you have to use stealth. I thought it was pretty much a breeze through (I failed once or twice because I tried something stupid i.e. going straight out octagon with a guard instead of just taking him out quietly). It seemed very much like Arkham Asylum stealth gameplay, and that seriously isn't a bad thing.

P.S.: I was talking about the hard difficulty on the museum level.
 

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Shinoki said:
hansari said:
Indie has intellect and isn't above using his fists. Drake has his youth and whips out a gun quite often.
Clearly you haven't played the game, nor watched the Indy flicks closely enough. Drake actually DOESN'T like guns, comes up during the museum level (but its weird since he then uses them without a peep for the rest of the game to mow down entire legions of enemies), but depending on your play style fisticuffs come in quite a bit.
The reason why Drake was rather hesitant to use a firearm in the museum chapter, was because they weren't really enemies.
They were merely museum staff, and therefore, not a target.

Although, the rules change later on. He doesn't hesitate to use a weapon, because.. Well... He's being shot at. The principles change when he has the advantage upon innocent civilians, versus when he is taking down armed mercenaries ;)
 

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Fortesque said:
hmm.. Having not played the first one, i cant really say anything.. however.

This looks like a bad combination of Prince of Persia and Gears of War. Combining a dumbed down version of Gears gunplay and a less acrobatic and less exciting version of Prince of Persia exploration and melee combat.

About 3 of my friends with a PS3 have been saying this game will be the best and win GOTY.. I really cant see it.

If I want to play a game that is pretty much Indiana Jones, Ill stick to Sperlunky.
While Spelunky is fantastic, you're a little off about this game.

If you're taking each element seperately, I can understand where one might get the impression that they're VERY SIMILAR to Gears and/or PoP (although calling it dumbed down is definetly a stretch! The shooter/cover elements are at least as complex as Gears, and the platforming is actually abit less made-for-the-braindead than the most recent PoP), when you put these elements together in a game it actually gives you something with a lot more depth than either Gears or PoP.

Imagine if in Gears you were given the ability to jump, climb on things, move extremely quickly from one level to another, pull people off the sides of buildings by grabbing their legs.... it's practically adding a whole new dimension to the gameplay. Believe me, this comes from a big Gears fan, but this game makes me lose really any urge to pick that game up again. Well, save for the fact that I'm still partial to split screen gameplay with a friend and this game doesn't have that. Definetely an oversight.
 

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Very nice game, putting it on my games list under 2018. That's when I can run a PS3 emulator.
 

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Mmm.. Nathan Drake...

I'm one of those unlucky people who don't have a PS3, so had to watch someone else play through ALL of Uncharted one AND two. And I gotta say, this game was fun as hell to watch. The ending makes me want to explode with awesome and happies.

Christmas is coming... Guess I should start being nice to my parents. Well- nicer.
 

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This game was so much better than Uncharted 1, and I loved Uncharted 1.
I don't think there was one moment in this game where I wasn't having fun.
 

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BaldursBananaSoap said:
Fortesque said:
hmm.. Having not played the first one, i cant really say anything.. however.

This looks like a bad combination of Prince of Persia and Gears of War. Combining a dumbed down version of Gears gunplay and a less acrobatic and less exciting version of Prince of Persia exploration and melee combat.

About 3 of my friends with a PS3 have been saying this game will be the best and win GOTY.. I really cant see it.

If I want to play a game that is pretty much Indiana Jones, Ill stick to Sperlunky.
You can't dumb down Gear's gunplay, it's already the most basic gunplay there is. At least this combines it with the climbing elements. And you act like Gears is all original and unique. Oh well, at least this game has a story, and well thought out characters other than homoerotic macho retards. Plus even the BETA of this game runs better than Gears of Wars laggy multiplayer. 360 fanboys at their best ehhh. I guess the've got nothing else to look forward to so try to bring down the PS3 games. Maybe you will be able to afford one someday :)
Im no 360 fanboy, I own both a PS3 and a 360. Play them both about the same.

I was just stating a fact about this game.
 

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Gah, I hate that the PS3 only has 3 games I actually want, which isn't enough to warrant a purchase...
 

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AgentNein said:
Fortesque said:
hmm.. Having not played the first one, i cant really say anything.. however.

This looks like a bad combination of Prince of Persia and Gears of War. Combining a dumbed down version of Gears gunplay and a less acrobatic and less exciting version of Prince of Persia exploration and melee combat.

About 3 of my friends with a PS3 have been saying this game will be the best and win GOTY.. I really cant see it.

If I want to play a game that is pretty much Indiana Jones, Ill stick to Sperlunky.
While Spelunky is fantastic, you're a little off about this game.

If you're taking each element seperately, I can understand where one might get the impression that they're VERY SIMILAR to Gears and/or PoP (although calling it dumbed down is definetly a stretch! The shooter/cover elements are at least as complex as Gears, and the platforming is actually abit less made-for-the-braindead than the most recent PoP), when you put these elements together in a game it actually gives you something with a lot more depth than either Gears or PoP.

Imagine if in Gears you were given the ability to jump, climb on things, move extremely quickly from one level to another, pull people off the sides of buildings by grabbing their legs.... it's practically adding a whole new dimension to the gameplay. Believe me, this comes from a big Gears fan, but this game makes me lose really any urge to pick that game up again. Well, save for the fact that I'm still partial to split screen gameplay with a friend and this game doesn't have that. Definetely an oversight.
I choose to not see the most recent PoP as a Prince of Persia game. Much like a refuse to see Kingdom of the Crystal Skull as an Indiana Jones movie. Still, I think if you are going to make a game about cave and ruin exploring etc. you need to make it over the top acrobatic. Where is the fun if you cant run horizontally across the wall, grab onto to some tapestry with your sword, slide down it and backflip off the wall only to land on your feet and engage in over the top acrobatic melee combat... hmm.. im going to play Sands of Time again.
 

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Indie has intellect and isn't above using his fists. Drake has his youth and whips out a gun quite often.
Clearly you haven't played the game, nor watched the Indy flicks closely enough. Drake actually DOESN'T like guns, comes up during the museum level (but its weird since he then uses them without a peep for the rest of the game to mow down entire legions of enemies), but depending on your play style fisticuffs come in quite a bit.
The reason why Drake was rather hesitant to use a firearm in the museum chapter, was because they weren't really enemies.
They were merely museum staff, and therefore, not a target.

Although, the rules change later on. He doesn't hesitate to use a weapon, because.. Well... He's being shot at. The principles change when he has the advantage upon innocent civilians, versus when he is taking down armed mercenaries ;)
While this reason did not escape me, it still doesn't add up. Shooting and killing someone in my books is still shooting and killing someone, doesn't matter if they are a guard or a mercenary. And the guards did have guns, remember the escape part of the museum level? They weren't just pointing red laser pointers at Drake :p.
 

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The thing I found about Uncharted 2's multiplayer is that it's basically the bastard child of Saints Row 2, Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 (in order of "homage"). It has the game types of Saints Row 2, the gameplay of Saints Row 2 with a bit of Call of Duty thrown in, the perk system of Call of Duty 4 and the ad hoc party system of Halo 3.

I can see no forseeable way that, in combining these three games, you wouldn't get the best online multiplayer of all time. I'm still getting Borderlands first 'cos I'm a sucker for the style :)
 

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Tomb Raider exploration + Gears of War shooting + Arkham Asylum bare fist fighting + Prince of Persia platforming, also starring the Prince

Oh , my favorite part, QTE's without the freakin icons appearing on screen, you just perform as normal within a 'moving stage' rather than a cutscene.
 

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k i will not sub come to the siren sang of the ps3 i will not .....................even though it has great games
 

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amazing game i just finished the story and started on the multiplayer.... now if i could only find some ps3 owners that actually USE a fucking MIC....
 

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I don't know if everyone at the escapist are great friends and all, but I see yatzee canning this game, and maybe a small fallout between susan and yatzee.
 

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Fortesque said:
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hmm.. Having not played the first one, i cant really say anything.. however.

This looks like a bad combination of Prince of Persia and Gears of War. Combining a dumbed down version of Gears gunplay and a less acrobatic and less exciting version of Prince of Persia exploration and melee combat.

About 3 of my friends with a PS3 have been saying this game will be the best and win GOTY.. I really cant see it.

If I want to play a game that is pretty much Indiana Jones, Ill stick to Sperlunky.
While Spelunky is fantastic, you're a little off about this game.

If you're taking each element seperately, I can understand where one might get the impression that they're VERY SIMILAR to Gears and/or PoP (although calling it dumbed down is definetly a stretch! The shooter/cover elements are at least as complex as Gears, and the platforming is actually abit less made-for-the-braindead than the most recent PoP), when you put these elements together in a game it actually gives you something with a lot more depth than either Gears or PoP.

Imagine if in Gears you were given the ability to jump, climb on things, move extremely quickly from one level to another, pull people off the sides of buildings by grabbing their legs.... it's practically adding a whole new dimension to the gameplay. Believe me, this comes from a big Gears fan, but this game makes me lose really any urge to pick that game up again. Well, save for the fact that I'm still partial to split screen gameplay with a friend and this game doesn't have that. Definetely an oversight.
I choose to not see the most recent PoP as a Prince of Persia game. Much like a refuse to see Kingdom of the Crystal Skull as an Indiana Jones movie. Still, I think if you are going to make a game about cave and ruin exploring etc. you need to make it over the top acrobatic. Where is the fun if you cant run horizontally across the wall, grab onto to some tapestry with your sword, slide down it and backflip off the wall only to land on your feet and engage in over the top acrobatic melee combat... hmm.. im going to play Sands of Time again.
I can definitely see the appeal in that, however as you mentioned yourself this is a veeery Indie Jones inspired game. I find it much more satisfying (and fitting for the inspiration!) for Drake to be Spelunking in a (quasi) realistic manner than going all John Woo on those walls.

With all of this said, your original mention of Spelunky reminds me that it pretty much beats the hell out of any game ever. I think I'm going to say fuck it to all these games and go play more of that.
 

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I don't know if everyone at the escapist are great friends and all, but I see yatzee canning this game, and maybe a small fallout between susan and yatzee.
He's hated every game I've ever liked, so it's really not that big a deal. :)
 

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I finished playing Uncharted 2 on Hard difficulty, so I'm gonna throw this out there.

Favorite part: Story: The in-game banter - Gameplay: It's a jack-of-all trades, and a master of most.

Least favorite: Story: it's a little cheesy - Gameplay: Certain situations where stealth attacks are forced(not literally forced, but rather situations where not using stealth when the characters insist you should [ala, "Stay quite and watch me take out these guys"] will ultimately lead to death). Oh and the AI is a little stupid in those stealth sections.

One last thing, Skelzor the skeleton is freaking awesome.

Roamin11 said:
I don't know if everyone at the escapist are great friends and all, but I see yatzee canning this game, and maybe a small fallout between susan and yatzee.
Yahtzee cans every game. Of course he will can this one, it doesn't mean anyone hates him for his opinion, we just recognize that he has a lot to point out that is mostly nitpicking.

p.s. he even can's games he likes, see fallout 3
 

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Just have to say i have JUST finished this game, breathtaking, b-e-a-utiful settings perfect story, plot twists, action, climbing i think this is probably the BEST game of the year (so far) and it deserves a metacritic rating of 98 to 100 a perfect game and a must buy.
 

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I've never played this, but honestly it doesn't look as great as people seem to say, maybe it just one of those things you have to do yourself, but I hate cover systems, they are easily exploited to make the game hell.
 

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I didn't preorder it as I wanted to wait for actual reviews. I was going to wait until Christmas to get it until I watched this review, and saw that if features the voice of Farscape/Stargate/Pitch Black's Claudia Black. I then went down to the shops, and got it on release.
 

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Damnit.

[sup]I litterally am the only person who doesn't like this game. It's pretty though, I'll give it that.[/sup]
No, I'll agree with your sup simply because I hate all TPS games.
 

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Damnit.

[sup]I litterally am the only person who doesn't like this game. It's pretty though, I'll give it that.[/sup]
Wait for yahtzee to get his hands on it, that's what I'm doing.
 

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Chipperz said:
The thing I found about Uncharted 2's multiplayer is that it's basically the bastard child of Saints Row 2, Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 (in order of "homage"). It has the game types of Saints Row 2, the gameplay of Saints Row 2 with a bit of Call of Duty thrown in, the perk system of Call of Duty 4 and the ad hoc party system of Halo 3.

I can see no forseeable way that, in combining these three games, you wouldn't get the best online multiplayer of all time. I'm still getting Borderlands first 'cos I'm a sucker for the style :)
Well I'm not getting it (despite the fact I have a PS3)because it's stealing all the attention away from Brutal Legend, or at least I feel that it is.
 

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It amuses me how desperately hard people are trying to hate this game without even playing it.

My opinion doesn't count however as I am intensely biased, anything with the label "old fashioned adventure" that carries the pulpy vibe of Indiana Jones is an instant sell. Definately need to agree with Susan on one thing though, the Helicopter/Missiles/Hotel moment was intensely awesome, and not handled with a cutscene.

EDIT: The man above me is right, Naughty Dog should NEVER make a purely Stealth Level again, that was 1/2 an hour of pure torture! Thankfully they get that out of the way right at the beginning and you NEVER SEE ANYTHING LIKE IT AGAIN.
I don't see why everyone hated the Stealth scene in Uncharted 2, I liked it. Guess my MGS sneaking skills are just more polished ;)

I absolutely love Uncharted 2, and the multiplayer and co-op portions of the game are extremely well done especially considering it's Naughty Dog's first attempt at multiplayer. However, one thing stands out the most in multiplayer, and it's not a good thing; the matchmaking.

Seriously, Uncharted 2 has got to have the absolute worst matchmaking I've ever experienced in multiplayer. Just recently, when I started playing multiplayer at level 1 (I beat the single player first), I was teamed up with nobody higher than level 5 and the other team had level 10-25s. Being that level 1s have no boosters to start with and have very little experiences with the maps, my team ended up losing 10 to 50 kills...

That is not matchmaking, that's slaughter, so I agree with John Funk on the multiplayer portion. Everything else, though, is terrific and is definitely a must buy for every PS3 owner out there, or at least a rent.
 

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Eagle Est1986 said:
Uncharted movie
An Uncharted movie has been in the works since the first game.And it has the same cast that plays the characters.

OT:Can´t wait to get this game.Just finished the first one 2 days ago.
Do you have a source?
 

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iamq said:
RAND00M said:
Eagle Est1986 said:
Uncharted movie
An Uncharted movie has been in the works since the first game.And it has the same cast that plays the characters.

OT:Can´t wait to get this game.Just finished the first one 2 days ago.
Do you have a source?
It was in a unlockable video in the original game.
 

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RAND00M said:
iamq said:
RAND00M said:
Eagle Est1986 said:
Uncharted movie
An Uncharted movie has been in the works since the first game.And it has the same cast that plays the characters.

OT:Can´t wait to get this game.Just finished the first one 2 days ago.
Do you have a source?
It was in a unlockable video in the original game.
Which one? I've got the first game, and I've unlocked every video. Can't remember them saying anything about the movie.
 

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I love the story and the multiplayer is very well done, it fuses jumping, climbing, taking cover, blind firing, and stealth all into one. People may say its a copycat of many other games but its the first GOOD one.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
So I'm not the only person who hated that museum level? Ok, cool, good to know. Drove me nuts.

And given that Nathan Drake's personality is based largely on Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Fillion seems like the obvious choice for the film. And if they want to cast the magnificent Claudia Black as Chloe, that's fine by me, too.
You are most definitely not the only person who loathed that stealth section ;-) I started to get worried during that level, I really did! And yes, an Uncharted film with Nathan Fillion and Claudia Black would be, as they say on the interwebs, made of win =)

I think my favourite part of the game (aside from the stunning visuals, superb cutscenes and pure fun of picking up a downed enemy's gatling gun and hosing the nearby enemies down with bullets, then swapping it for a Dragon Sniper and delicately picking off the stragglers) would have to be the charmingly intuitive and endearing comments that Drake spontaneoulsy makes. In particular I'm thinking of a point halfway through the monastery level where, when faced with a bunch more climbing to do, Drake said: 'I'm so sick of climbing shit!'
 

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Why must it be PS3 exclusive? The fact that none of my friends own PS3's means I can't play a game on it for more than three days at a time without them complaining about how I'm not online!
 

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hansari said:
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Clearly you haven't played the game, nor watched the Indy flicks closely enough. Drake actually DOESN'T like guns, comes up during the museum level (but its weird since he then uses them without a peep for the rest of the game to mow down entire legions of enemies), but depending on your play style fisticuffs come in quite a bit. Also Indy uses guns too. Watch Raiders of the lost arc again, when he is Cairo he shoots a half dozen guys, including the dual sword wielding guy in the crowd scene.
Of course there are gonna be some incidents when the rules change. What I was speaking of though was in general. Indiana Jones uses his firearm at times, but those few moments are typically overshadowed by how he handles situations in the rest of the movie.

Ex. I don't remember him spraying those guys. I'm sure it happened in Raider of the Lost Ark, but I can't recall it over the chase scenes, the interception of the Ark transport, the tiny uniform in nazi sub, and fisticuffs under airplane.

If it happened more often though, I would probably remember it like the dualsword gunshot (which was comical)

As for Drake, I admit I've never played the game firsthand. But all the gameplay I've seen suggests shooting is a normal routine. (Its about gameplay choice like you said, but a lot of scenes make shooting the more reasonable conclusion)
i must say, there is something you seem to be overlooking.

this is a game. Indiana Jones is a series of movies. there is a certain standard of gameplay youve gotta look for. and there wouldn't be very much gameplay if, at every conflict Nate just talked/charmed/outsmarted his way out of it.

people want to do stuff in a game. if they don't, they should wait for a movie.
 

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Lol, at the credits of the video supplement when she was punching a corpse repeatedly, whilst Nate was nearly dead and people were STILL SHOOTING at Nate. Even experienced gamers are allowed to have their nooby moments, anyways I played the multiplayer beta, jizzed a little, watched various trailers & reviews, jizzed s'more, now I'm saving up for the game....and changing my pants. If all goes to plan I should have it next week.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
I had to prove to you that I did read and watched your review. I'll be buying this game. You win. A tip of the hat to you, Susan, you win this round.