Review: Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War II
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Ah the Pretty Pony Princess chapter, truly one of the most deadly of all space marine chapters. When you hear the happy lilting melodies of their constant singing over the hills of some foreign world, you will have known the sound of fear.
I always found "destroying their buildings one settlement at a time" to be the most boring things out of an RTS; most satisfying remain to watch your troops slaughter every single one of theirs, which is why I love DoW 2.
@ Pedro
And the Hello Kitty Chapter is rumored to have been branded as heretics for spreading peace across the universe.
@ Pedro
And the Hello Kitty Chapter is rumored to have been branded as heretics for spreading peace across the universe.
I really think the game should be called an SRPG since that's what it is in singleplayer. Yeah, okay, those are usually turn based but there are exceptions and DoW2 is probably the best SRPG overall.
The lack of Chaos forces is a bit sad but then again not every battle can be fought with every force on the same planet (aren't there frontlines that dictate who can meet anyway?) and the CSMs would probably feel too close to the regular SMs so people would feel like they're getting 3.5 factions instead of 4. Only trouble is that feeling is probably going to be even more extreme if the CSMs are an addon faction that you pay extra money for.
The tone of the SP campaign is also much different from DoW1. It feels more like you're a modern mercenary group (that's it, my Force Commander gets to keep the plasma cannon and demonstrate its ommmmmmminous hummmmmmmmm, too bad you can't dual wield heavy weapons) or something rather than a bunch of religious fanatics that will exterminate anything that shows even the slightest doubt of their deity. I didn't know governors were allowed to tell Space Marines off without getting the Inquisition on their butts and discovering a pile of stolen order relics gets handled with an arrest warrant? Space Marines that worry about dead civilians? Is this supposed to be the same universe where any ***** in your fanaticism is a way for chaos to get into your mind and corrupt you?
I wonder how they'll handle expansions, if they'll keep the SRPG system in place and just let you play as other forces...
The lack of Chaos forces is a bit sad but then again not every battle can be fought with every force on the same planet (aren't there frontlines that dictate who can meet anyway?) and the CSMs would probably feel too close to the regular SMs so people would feel like they're getting 3.5 factions instead of 4. Only trouble is that feeling is probably going to be even more extreme if the CSMs are an addon faction that you pay extra money for.
The tone of the SP campaign is also much different from DoW1. It feels more like you're a modern mercenary group (that's it, my Force Commander gets to keep the plasma cannon and demonstrate its ommmmmmminous hummmmmmmmm, too bad you can't dual wield heavy weapons) or something rather than a bunch of religious fanatics that will exterminate anything that shows even the slightest doubt of their deity. I didn't know governors were allowed to tell Space Marines off without getting the Inquisition on their butts and discovering a pile of stolen order relics gets handled with an arrest warrant? Space Marines that worry about dead civilians? Is this supposed to be the same universe where any ***** in your fanaticism is a way for chaos to get into your mind and corrupt you?
I wonder how they'll handle expansions, if they'll keep the SRPG system in place and just let you play as other forces...
CSM do not have much in the way of similarities with their Loyalist brethren. Unless you consider Daemons, Nurglings, Plague Marines, Noise Marines, Khorne Bezerkers and Sorcerers to be similar. Relic's problem is in the previous DoWs they pretty much did a cut and paste of the SM which was not even remotely faithful to the CSM.KDR_11k said:
I had a real problem with main campaign, I mean it was by turns brilliant, and while the plot wasn't especially deep if was was still pretty fun, however, it's finished off by one stupid stupid ending. And to be fair without spoiling it the final mission starts off pretty epic, lots of killing, last stands etc. Then you get to the last boss, which I have no problem spoiling due to it's crappiness. You were maybe expecting some massive Tyranid monstrosity? Some eldritch tentacled horror? Maybe something heroically challenging? Nope.
It's also somewhat of a shame they only had time to do a Space Marines campaign, and although it can last pretty long if you do all the optional side mission, it's still relatively short compared to some other RTS games.
You get none of those things, you get a regular sized boss tyranid like all the others you've fought beforehand. And there's nothing even hard about him, just shoot em' down. And he goes down fast, without any of the tricks you may have had to use on some of the other bosses. A big let down.
It's also somewhat of a shame they only had time to do a Space Marines campaign, and although it can last pretty long if you do all the optional side mission, it's still relatively short compared to some other RTS games.
The game has been fairly amusing so far, but I have to admit I'm perplexed by the acting. DoW had the best voice quips for units I have ever heard in any RTS. Yet, for some reason, the actors speaking during the campaigns sucked as much ass as they usually do.
Unfortunately it's even worse in this game...
I was impressed that they managed to pull of bossfights in an RTS though. Bravo. I just wish there was more variety in the campaign. I also found it to be a bit silly that some of the space marines hadn't heard of the Tyranid...
Unfortunately it's even worse in this game...
I was impressed that they managed to pull of bossfights in an RTS though. Bravo. I just wish there was more variety in the campaign. I also found it to be a bit silly that some of the space marines hadn't heard of the Tyranid...
I'm interested in this game now. I like strategy, but hate the base-building and managing (I find it incredibly tedious, especially like in Generals where it's a pretty much full-time job to manage that: how am I supposed to get a good fight in?). I've been really enjoying Endwar on the console side (as it also does away with bases), but I may pick up this for my PC.
Shame there's no WAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH campaign. Orks are the bestest.
Shame there's no WAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH campaign. Orks are the bestest.
Less stagnation more WAAAGH!!! is always good.
Huh? My PC barely runs GTA IV on medium (barely = lower than 25 FPS) and I can enjoy smooth gameplay in DoW 2. At least I could in Beta, as I haven't bought the game yet. I just have to update my CPU...Tenmar said:
Wow, Funk, the multiplayer is way better than you make it out to be. Can you control the avatar of war in the campaign? NO! 
- There is also an Annihilate mode, not just victory point.
Learn something new every day. Now the blood ravens seem like they awkwardly fit into the game.
- There is also an Annihilate mode, not just victory point.So...Blood Ravens are not a "new chapter" that is the love child of The Blood Angels and the Raven Guard?RedMenace said:
Learn something new every day. Now the blood ravens seem like they awkwardly fit into the game.
Ah yes... the fabled Pretty Pony Princess Chapter. The only one brave enough to announce its presence! Quite a superb tactic, indeed. Whilst your foes mock you, you have silently dispatched a jump squad to decimate them in their most vulnerable moment!
I of the Ultramarines salute your bravery and unique battle strategy. For the Emperor!
I of the Ultramarines salute your bravery and unique battle strategy. For the Emperor!
Well, then you might actually be disappointed, it's as simplified as strategy games go, don't get me wrong, it's an excellent game, but it's not really a strategy game. RTT/RPG would be more correct.Spinwhiz said:
Now... Men of war, that's for real strategy masochists, like me!
Seriously, that game on easy is like any other strategy game on the hardest settings...
*Oh, 100 men and 8 at guns spread across 2 defensive lines, with AT and infantry reinforcements to call upon, and a coastal artillery gun, this will be a breeze*
*700 men and 40 tanks later*
*I better try this one again*