very nice article, i have been itching to buy this game for so long but im waiting for the price to come down
Revisiting Our Demon Soul
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It probably won't. Like most Atlus games, they're limited print. For the holiday season Atlus actually had to print MORE due to the demand, they don't usually do this.reg42 said:
Amazing game anyhow, and it's not THAT hard. Once you settle into it's rules everything falls into place nicely.
Advice to all those playing for the first tmie or going to play the game, KILL YURT. DO NOT LET HIM GO BACK TO THE NEXUS!
What happens if you don't?AC10 said:
Because I released the guy and I didn't see him for the remainder of the game.
It isn't really a hard game, as much as it is a test of patience and ability to learn. Taking your time and learning how to take different enemies on so you take as little damage as possible is an amazing experience, and if you die and lose everything you have worked for you generally feel like it is your fault. The relatively high number of deaths don't feel like punishment as much as a learning experience. After loosing a high number of souls I don't feel rage towards the game like I do with other titles, as much as I feel upset that I messed up something.Jaredin said:
He should kill every NPC in the nexus except the black maiden. This takes time though:Casual Shinji said:
http://www.giantbomb.com/yurt-the-silent-chief/94-11194/
Remember, once an NPC is dead they're gone for that play-through.
I generally agree with this. There were a few times I let frustration get the better of me, mainly during boss fights. It seems as if From Software was REALLY punishing to melee characters. Taking things out from range makes most boss fights like 5 times simpler. I maintain that flamelurker is more or less impossible to engage in close quarters combat unless you FAR out level him.Warrior Irme said:
I say this because when he's below 30% health he enters a constant attack stage, which will drain your stamina very quickly. I had a flame shield and took 5 blows from him with very little damage, but could not take anymore due to the stamina drain, then his 6th blow knocked me over and his 7th, 8th then finally 9th killed me. There was no "break" in these attacks so you couldn't run away, it's basically a death sentence if you let him hit you in "berserk" mode, which I find unfair. To beat him I just got him stuck on geometry, wore a theifs ring and sniped him with a bow. It was stupid easy comparatively.
I did bout the same, using a royal class and not once raising vitality. Needless to say, he could deck me in 1 hit if i didn't block. I did find out thought that into the arena, towards the left, there's a pillar as well as a ribcage that you can circle entirely and maybe get him stuck in his "running with intent of beating the S*$& out of you mode". In which case, arrows are your friend. ^^AC10 said:
For starters, NEVER wander around with a large number of souls. Early on, whenever you've got enough to make a purchase (forging, equipment, spells, repairs, leveling) go back and do it. That will minimize your losses. If you really need souls, stay as a ghost and help other players out as a Phantom. You can get lots of experience by repeatedly helping with rewarding levels or bosses, and keep all your souls on-hand when you die unless it's to an invader.AC10 said:
A lot of the "use spells/bow" bosses like Armor Spider, Flamelurker, and Maneater are entirely beatable in melee with the right strategy. Unlike fighting normal enemies it pays to ditch the shield and go on the offensive with a large sword or axe and your best enchant spell. Doing enough damage will stagger Flamelurker for a moment... it's safer all in all to dodge around looking for a safe opportunity to attack and then landing a few huge hits to knock a big chunk off of his health bar instead of "playing it safe" with nickle-and-dime damage from behind a fire-resistant shield.
If you guys really want to chat about DS, there's an awesome and helpful community at atlus.com/forum
Back on topic, this game is so damn awesome and I know it's doing well, not to mention it got a ton of face time for a game that wasn't even promoted. I really hope this catches on... yes, sure, there's a lot of casuals out there that want something simple like God of War or Darksider's or whatever it may be (I like those games, btw), but there's a TON of hardcore gamers looking for a real challenge. When I read about how hard this game is - and that it's not unfair - I could not wait to give it a go. It wasn't even a question; here's a challenge, and I was up for it.
The multiplayer co-op is fun, yes it makes bosses fairly easy but I didn't find the bosses the hardest part of the game anyway. And the pvp - when you get invaded - is not rock-paper-scissors... it's not random luck. It's bad luck to have lag issues, but if all's fair then skill beats gear. Plus, as an invader you get penalized, as a defender you can summon up to 2 helpers. IMO the system is great, this game is great.
As to this: "If you haven't beaten him yet, on the rubble the best is the Dragon Bone Sword (of course, used that on my second playthrough). Barring that, Fragrance Ring (to regen MP, as it will take quite a few spells) with Soul arrow spell from behind pillars worked well for me on my first go.
Dragon God was the first Arch Demon I ever beat. Seriously though, Flamelurker is WAY worse. There's a trick to Man-Eater (and I'm thankful for it as it might have been the hardest boss)."
Just have to say... the DBS is only available if you have pure white world tendancy, and wtf are you talking about with using Soul arrows?? The Dragon God is the only scripted encounter - you run to the first harpoon dodging his punches, you run to the 2nd dodging his fire (you can hide from it LoS behind pillars)... then you just go smash his face. It's not easy, per se, but it's not hard... solo vs Flamelurker, Old King Doran, and False King Allant are HARD... especially on NG+.
Back on topic, this game is so damn awesome and I know it's doing well, not to mention it got a ton of face time for a game that wasn't even promoted. I really hope this catches on... yes, sure, there's a lot of casuals out there that want something simple like God of War or Darksider's or whatever it may be (I like those games, btw), but there's a TON of hardcore gamers looking for a real challenge. When I read about how hard this game is - and that it's not unfair - I could not wait to give it a go. It wasn't even a question; here's a challenge, and I was up for it.
The multiplayer co-op is fun, yes it makes bosses fairly easy but I didn't find the bosses the hardest part of the game anyway. And the pvp - when you get invaded - is not rock-paper-scissors... it's not random luck. It's bad luck to have lag issues, but if all's fair then skill beats gear. Plus, as an invader you get penalized, as a defender you can summon up to 2 helpers. IMO the system is great, this game is great.
As to this: "If you haven't beaten him yet, on the rubble the best is the Dragon Bone Sword (of course, used that on my second playthrough). Barring that, Fragrance Ring (to regen MP, as it will take quite a few spells) with Soul arrow spell from behind pillars worked well for me on my first go.
Dragon God was the first Arch Demon I ever beat. Seriously though, Flamelurker is WAY worse. There's a trick to Man-Eater (and I'm thankful for it as it might have been the hardest boss)."
Just have to say... the DBS is only available if you have pure white world tendancy, and wtf are you talking about with using Soul arrows?? The Dragon God is the only scripted encounter - you run to the first harpoon dodging his punches, you run to the 2nd dodging his fire (you can hide from it LoS behind pillars)... then you just go smash his face. It's not easy, per se, but it's not hard... solo vs Flamelurker, Old King Doran, and False King Allant are HARD... especially on NG+.
First off I want to say that in my opinion this is the best game of the current generation, and anyone considering buying it should.
Second I want to say that I soloed the game (first runthrough) with a melee faith based build, I used faith modified weapons while having low int, and although several of the bosses are fairly hard like this (Flamelurker, Old King Allant, Penetrator, etc.), the game was never unfair or too difficult. I found that the common misconception is that your damage stat and vitality are your main pours for stats, while I put a good deal of my stats in endurance giving me the ability to block and roll out of the way even while wearing heavy armor. For example while going melee against the Flamelurker when he is berserk all you need to do is block his initial strike then immediately roll past his left (if I remember right) hip and then just smack his ass until he turns around. Also Armor Spider is cake, just hide in the corners and heal/block through the mega flame.
Second I want to say that I soloed the game (first runthrough) with a melee faith based build, I used faith modified weapons while having low int, and although several of the bosses are fairly hard like this (Flamelurker, Old King Allant, Penetrator, etc.), the game was never unfair or too difficult. I found that the common misconception is that your damage stat and vitality are your main pours for stats, while I put a good deal of my stats in endurance giving me the ability to block and roll out of the way even while wearing heavy armor. For example while going melee against the Flamelurker when he is berserk all you need to do is block his initial strike then immediately roll past his left (if I remember right) hip and then just smack his ass until he turns around. Also Armor Spider is cake, just hide in the corners and heal/block through the mega flame.
Atlus is doing a World Tendency event for Valentine's day. There's a poll somewhere to determine if it's going to be white or black (PLZ BLACK PLZ), nice to see they're still doing that sort of thing.