Rise for This Live Action Assassin's Creed III Trailer

algalon

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Seneschal said:
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Did I say pre-war? No I don't think I did. Context. Reading comprehension. These things matter. Don't base an argument on an assumption, on a premise you think exists but does not.
To whom do you think the "rise" tagline is addressing?
Viagra users?
 

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the only demographic of gamers that would be completely taken in by this ad are already getting the patriot on playing COD.
CoD? The one where the Americans get killed in massive numbers, the bad guy behind it all turns out to be an American general, and it's the heroic Brits who save the day and kill the final baddie? That CoD?
Okay first of all calm down a little. I didn't mean anything bad with the comment, and I did not I comment on the game itself. I am talking about the way the game is portrayed in the ads that they released. "Everyone can be a solider" that kind of stuff. I never attacked the game itself man, calm down.
 

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I'm guessing they're using a 1940's history book for reference. Main reason colonist rebelled was because the crown wouldn't support westward expansion into Native American lands. Interesting how they'll twist this so the main character isn't helping lay down the ground work for ethnic cleansing, which would later allow for the expansion of slave labor.

Oh well its just a game.
 

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Well, as the original post stated, this game goes through the Treaty of Paris. If I'm inferring correctly here, that means that your protagonist, a half-Mohawk, is gonna spend a game fighting alongside his revolutionary comrades only to be abandoned and kicked to the side after they've officially gotten what they wanted. Sounds like a pretty dark portrayal of the aftermath of the revolution, and I'm all for it.
 

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Jesus H...five pages of whining about the historical inaccuracy of a video game trailer. If you're british and this really pisses you off, you need to do some serious thinking about what you put effort towards. If you're american and you're pandering to the whiners by saying, 'i'm american and i know why you would blah blah blah', you need a damned face punch and a lesson in not being pressured by a crowd.

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As a Brit, I'm trying to maintain an even-handed approach. If they were Americans being slaughtered, I would probably already be praising it as my game of the decade...
Are you fucking kidding me? This kind of sociopathic bullshit is ridiculous! You would praise a game for 'slaughtering' a specific demographic? Right, and I'm sure that you're well balanced and have a girlfriend and don't live in your mother's basement.

This kind of a ass backward nonsense from a video game trailer. This, British escapists, is what should be angering you. Not some lamely written line in a two minute trailer.
 
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I really want to like AC3 but the marketing hasn't really been filling me with much enthusiasm. Even as an American I don't enjoy that patriotic revolution garbage. I kind of sympathize with the British as far as the revolution is concerned.
 

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I can see that. You have definitely made some very valid points. But, that being said. I absolutely would not have a problem with a game that involved killing Americans. Or that depicted Americans as the evil invading empire because I would not consider a work of fiction a slight against myself or my country. First, as a game, it's inherently fictitious and is not representative of an entire conflict, or entire people. Second, the way you described American soldiers is not untrue in regards to some soldiers. But the main reason I would be fine with it would be because it's only a little snippet of a game. If they aren't showing just enough to get me interested but showing the entire story in a demo or a few pictures, they are doing it wrong.
Spec ops: The Line has you against the 33rd, another division of the American military. Apparently.

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We should all be better than to compare this game to actual history.
I agree with this - if Assassin's Creed didn't bill itself as historical action or drama. It's always been about as accurate as a Dan Brown novel, but it pretends to be. And people take it as it is.

I still hear game reviewers talk about Assassin's Creed, and even being offended at killing a Pope. Besides the point that Pope Alexander has always been a point of contention in Catholic history. They didn't actually use it as a jumping on point to learn more, when the opportunity was there.

I hope that they do, because these people are much more interesting than how they tend to be painted.
I actually bought that game as it was 50% off on Amazon. That game does a good job at making you feel genuinely remorseful about defending yourself. It's a pretty good and worth the price at $25.
 

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I know I will be hated upon for saying this, but I really root for the British.
The British defended the colonies and then wanted them to pay off their war debt -- the colonies refused to pay and demanded 'freedom'. If someone defends you, colonies, it's not nice to give them the finger right afterwards. Cue Boston Tea Party, etc.
Of course the British did bad things as well, nobody's innocent there -- still, I wouldn't mind if they had won. But oh well, they only 'lost' because the Empire had more dangerous enemies to focus on anyway.
 

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as an american, ive always wondered about the perspective of british people with the revolutionary war, and now i know. as a gamer however, im put off by this trailer, have yet to play any of the ass creeds games yet, and this trailer kinda pushes me away further. Why? If you need to suck someones dick THIS BADLY, your game is probably crap
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
The Plunk said:
This kind of a ass backward nonsense from a video game trailer. This, British escapists, is what should be angering you. Not some lamely written line in a two minute trailer.
YEAH! Why should anyone give a fuck about historical accuracy?! After all, who cares about the history of a country that they'll never see?!
You, sir, have just won the thread.
How, exactly, did he 'win the thread'? All he did was repeat the same stupid line from the trailer that you're all bitching about in a bad attempt at countering my post.

He didn't address anything at all that I said. Let me try again, since apparently my first post wasn't decipherable to you or your awesome, one-liner, thread winner friend.

I said that the historical accuracy in a game trailer is trivial. It wasn't made to be a fucking documentary, and therefore shouldn't really be taken so seriously. Secondly, I addressed the sociopathic comment by one of the previous posters and how it was unbelievable that this type of shit is acceptable to you all while a shittily written script in a game trailer causes all sorts of uproar.

Is that TL:DR enough for you?

Honestly, though...I should probably save my breath. Immaturity can only be corrected with experience.
 

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It's worth noting that if they had him fighting colonists in the trailer, he'd just look like he was beating the shit out of a bunch of farmers.

Redcoats are a universal symbol of authority and power. Random fucking farmers are not.

Just a thought.




Also: British troops burned down Conner's village. He kind of has beef with them.
 

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I don't mind Britain being the moustache twirling bad guys (Hell that's one of our primary exports) if Ubisoft said that would be the case out the gate, but don't try and pander saying it'll be different shades of grey when quite clearly that isn't the case.

Apart from that, I'm not too bothered about this, except the learning about another country's history line which is too stupid for words. It just reminds me of the Onion video on the kid who flunked Spanish because 'Murricah.

 

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Ubisoft is French, no? So, hundreds of years of animosity and fist-shaking between the French and the Brits, and you guys are expecting them to show their enemy in a positive light in a war where the French helped beat the Brits off? Hahaha! What a fun idea.

Historical snark aside, nice to see they're still not showing much gameplay in their trailers. I guess they took the "well, they already know about stabbing and shooting, let's play up their anachronistic patriotism instead!" I mean, really, it's like a commercial 236 years late. This is the kind of pseudo propaganda that should have played back then to get people on the colonial side. What a useless trailer.
 

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You know, after watching this I think the stormcloaks and the revolutionaries have a lot in common.
 

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I don't know if anyone posted this but time to be a ****.

The American Revolution was over by 1783 when the British abandoned claims to the United States.
The British adopted the Union jack in 1801.

Why was it seen hanging and then dropping from the wall in the court house?
 

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Guys, guys... think about this period historically. The American War of Independence was fought because we Americans believed ourselves to be British and yet weren't extended the same rights and privileges as our fellow Britons. So the American War of Independence wasn't British vs. American it was British vs. British. Just because our governments and other institutions have since that time tried to make us loyal to national identities doesn't mean that we weren't (and indeed aren't) basically the same people.
 

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Lyri said:
I don't know if anyone posted this but time to be a ****.

The American Revolution was over by 1783 when the British abandoned claims to the United States.
The British adopted the Union jack in 1801.

Why was it seen hanging and then dropping from the wall in the court house?
Boy, if that annoys you I can't imagine how you feel about the American Civil War.

If you're not sure what I'm talking about, google "Confederate Flag"



You will not get a single flag of the actual Confederacy.
 

Lyri

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Unsilenced said:
Boy, if that annoys you I can't imagine how you feel about the American Civil War.

If you're not sure what I'm talking about, google "Confederate Flag"



You will not get a single flag of the actual Confederacy.
Whilst I'm sure you are correct, I'm not really too concerned considering the real flag is around.
It's just lazy research frankly.