Ruby Rose shares details on her departure from Batwoman and problems on set.
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That is screwed up and I don't blame her for leaving. When will freaking Hollywood ever learn? You can't rush just to meet some unpleasable fans demands or your stupid money quota. There's honestly should be a big lawsuit; especially for that burn victim.
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And the show wasn't even good. Why push so hard to finish something that has poor audience response in the first place.
WB's response:
deadline.com
Warner Bros. TV Hits Back, Reveals Misconduct Allegations Against Ruby Rose After Actor Claims Toxic Behavior On ‘Batwoman’ Set – Update
UPDATE 11:30 AM: Warner Bros. Television, the studio behind the CW drama Batwoman, has released a strongly worded statement in response to former star Ruby Rose’s scathing attack on the show,…
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Apparently they only thing they're denying is the nature of her departure rather than any of the things she says happened on set.
I can already tell WB isWB's response:
Warner Bros. TV Hits Back, Reveals Misconduct Allegations Against Ruby Rose After Actor Claims Toxic Behavior On ‘Batwoman’ Set – Update
UPDATE 11:30 AM: Warner Bros. Television, the studio behind the CW drama Batwoman, has released a strongly worded statement in response to former star Ruby Rose’s scathing attack on the show,…
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So they're claiming that Ruby's real name is Karen? Hmm...interesting.WB's response:
Warner Bros. TV Hits Back, Reveals Misconduct Allegations Against Ruby Rose After Actor Claims Toxic Behavior On ‘Batwoman’ Set – Update
UPDATE 11:30 AM: Warner Bros. Television, the studio behind the CW drama Batwoman, has released a strongly worded statement in response to former star Ruby Rose’s scathing attack on the show,…
Apparently they only thing they're denying is the nature of her departure rather than any of the things she says happened on set.
Wasn't there stories about Ruby already hating the show mid season due to the ratings and critique?
Also why wait over a year after leaving to complain and report about abuse and problems? Why not immediately squeal the moment the show was over or even during the show if it was that bad? I don't understand tolerating it, it's not like she isn't already a millionaire and can't afford to leave a show if it's that fucked up.
This, they put stuff in your contract that says you can't shit on the company on social media. Not even a guess, its standard practice.
I thought her departure was weird, but the trailers looked so atrocious I didn't even bother to watch and assumed she quit because it was trash. Rose seems to be pretty determined to get into acting seriously and so I assumed she quit because she knew it was a bad gig.
On topic, God what is it with producers being the filth of the earth. Hollywood seriously needs to get act together. This good olboy shit is unacceptable in this day and age.
That would make sense if legal action had been issued or taken. But that doesn't seem to be the case, these are just straight accusations atm. Just seems weird to wait almost exactly 1 year to then start saying something.
A non-disclosure agreement cannot prevent you from talking about or reporting criminal activity.
I figured, it's just my view of NDA's is quite negative, as for whatever their legitimate purpose is, they seem to be used exclusively as gag-orders to keep the company image "clean".
EDIT: Plus, as I'm sure CW's lawyers will be quick to point out, none of what was described is illegal, per se. Scummy and fucking awful, sure, but not totally illegal.
Well, accusations are usually the start to these things, and "almost exactly 1 year" sounds like the end of a contract (to me anyway).
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Why is the time important?
This is likely true in this case. Doesn't mean that WB or CW can't pretend and threat you. Just because it's not enforceable, doesn't mean a company wouldn't put it into a NDA anyway.
If I was Rose, I would be talking to lawyers before saying anything. You dont want to unintentionally screw up a potentional case by stating something incorrect
(This is what I get for posting at work)
Okay, to further clarify, most of what was described was not illegal, specifically the stuff relating to the person whos skin fell off and the woman who is now paralyzed (as I'm sure there is a contract somewhere absolving CW, which would explain why they would try to push that "she was on her phone" bit). What Mr. "Steam-clean my dick" did is most likely sexual assault.
It wouldn't be an NDA, but I got his point. I wouldn't get hung up on semantics. Celebrities and actors, when dealing with large entities, are asked to sign an agreement that says something to the effect that within X time period they can not say anything negative, and there's a bunch of legalese around it, about the company or production. I just had required training this week on this agreement ironically. If they break that agreement they can be fired, contract cancelled, sued, and lose stipends, royalties, pay etc.
My guess is Rose was muzzled by contract or honestly it's possible she was incentivized to let it go, either by cash or threat. If it's the latter by admitting it they'd look even worse so I'm imagine they'll just ignore it and ban her from working with them again.
My guess is Rose was muzzled by contract or honestly it's possible she was incentivized to let it go, either by cash or threat. If it's the latter by admitting it they'd look even worse so I'm imagine they'll just ignore it and ban her from working with them again.
And now to watch and laugh as everyone turns on the show who was previously calling anyone critical of it a bigot........
Considering the likely overlap between Batwoman and the kind of people who are hardcore Reylo shippers.......... I think it's possible to take a fair guess as to why they pushed so hard. In part because their demographic were the twitter crowd.
Probably wanted to make sure she had some kind of work locked in before pissing off any executives. Hollywood don't like no Narcs or squealers
I'd actually suggest some of it is illegal, though it might depend more on local laws.
In the UK a certain actress nearly putting Jason Momoa's eye out has shut down a film for 2 weeks while safety investigations take place. It's entirely possible they failed to maintain a safe working environment or were negligent with the stunt work safety checks and stuff. If it was totally freak accidents maybe but seriously it sound like a seriously dangerous set. Like a guy getting all over 3rd degree burns, even low budget films normally have to have safety crews on hand for fire stunts so the only way something like that should be able to happen is a flash fire (malfunction on a fire effect piece of kit or something). As for the PA left paralysed that's I can only imagine would be either falling off something or some automated boom or platform hitting / crushing them.
I'm not particularly motivated to give any of these producers or WB the benefit of the doubt. They've done sketchy shit for years, but honestly the way all CW shows just go to absolute shit is enough to convince me that they have wackos in charge.
So many possible reasons. Maybe they were willing to wait for internal investigations to conclude and for the authorities to do the right thing. Maybe they needed the time to build a legal case. Maybe they know despite their fame, producer shitbags like Harvey Weinstein still wield a lot of power in Hollywood and didn't want to fuck their careers over. Maybe they were willing to keep quiet until they couldn't take all the criticism for shit they weren't responsible for anymore.
I wouldn't expect anyone other than the biggest names in Hollywood to be able to just say "Hey, what the fuck are you doing" when some bad shit goes down and have action be taken immediately. I mean, when's the last time you saw a celebrity who clearly knew their movie or show was shit actually say so before or during the movie's release?
Why did Ray Fisher wait three years to call out Joss Whedon? Why did Scarlett Johansson wait for a month before suing Disney?
So many possible reasons. Maybe they were willing to wait for internal investigations to conclude and for the authorities to do the right thing. Maybe they needed the time to build a legal case. Maybe they know despite their fame, producer shitbags like Harvey Weinstein still wield a lot of power in Hollywood and didn't want to fuck their careers over. Maybe they were willing to keep quiet until they couldn't take all the criticism for shit they weren't responsible for anymore.
I wouldn't expect anyone other than the biggest names in Hollywood to be able to just say "Hey, what the fuck are you doing" when some bad shit goes down and have action be taken immediately. I mean, when's the last time you saw a celebrity who clearly knew their movie or show was shit actually say so before or during the movie's release?
The CW has a bit of a history of this.
Smallville was apparently a demanding shooting schedule such that It was only because two of the actors behind major characters came forward and basically pushed for it that Tom Welling got a driver to take him too and from set and that was after 3 close calls where he was so tired he fell asleep at the wheel on the way home from shooting. Other characters had it better being in less scenes but apparently Tom Welling was basically there all day every day from the open of shooting until the close.
A number of reasons.
Firstly going through a lot of trauma like that can take time to process and even really realise how fucked up it was in the first place. I worked for the same company all through school and college. It wasn't until after I left and started working on a new job, that my health, physical and mental, started to improve, working in a much more positive environment that valued and respected me and talking to friends who were still in the old job that I realised how abusive that working environment was.
Sometimes people feel foolish for having "let" themselves be victims and will keep hush because they kind of blame themselves or think they were stupid for letting the abuse continue so long.
Fearing reprisal. It's a particularly vindictive industry and getting a reputation for causing trouble can end your career. Even when you are completely in the right.
Emotions aren't logical and people are emotional. Like, we know for a fact people like Weinstein and Cosby were abusers then there's Jimmy Saville. There's so many cases of abuse not coming to light for years. The whole "why'd they wait" line of questioning doesn't really work when we know for a fact that it can often take years for provably factual cases of abuse to become public. It happens, we know it happens. Taking time is not automatic grounds for suspicion.