Satoru Iwata: No "Dark Future" for Nintendo

[Dragonbums]

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I didn't say no kids wanted it, I said something along the lines of "everyone wanted one, then everyone was sick of them". Now, that is obviously just a generalization but it's true enough.

CriticKitten was basically saying "wii sold more than snes, so wii is obviously better than snes", I was saying that's wrong.

How do you know everyone got sick of them? Do you have a survey for that?

CriticKittens claims had nothing to do with whether or not the SNES was worse than the Wii.

It was there to debunk your claim that the overwhelming majority of Nintendo's fanbase are some 30 year old males. Despite the fact many people who buy Nintendo hardware are demographics of all ages. Mainly women, and small children-pre teens.

 

[WeepingAngels]

I'm not sure how Nintendo keep going to be honest, I've only ever wanted 2 Nintendo products. A Gameboy and a version of pokemon red/blue. They keep dragging out the same dead ponies, pokemon, Mario, metriod, zelda etc but the 80's and 90's kids go fucking wild for them every time... Will be a sad time for Nintendo when that generation dies off.

I just can't see them pulling in new audiences with games from there grandparents generation, today's kids aren't going mad for the modern version of pong aka tennis games. Infants might play Mario as babies first game but I doubt it will last, why play a 2D side scroller when the elder scrolls 10 is out?

The assumption that Nintendo's only fanbase are 30 year olds on nostalgia googles are baffling.

Especially when a large number of critics against Nintendo are in that very age group.

There is also a pretty good chance that a good chunk of children do not know what the Elder Scrolls is. The most they probably know about it is Skyrim.

Indeed, many of us long for the days of the NES, SNES and N64. When Nintendo was making games that made us gamers for years to come. When Nintendo was releasing consoles that allowed for third parties to do great things. I always wondered why third parties didn't release great JRPG's on the Genesis. Was there a technical reason?

Anyway my biggest complaint about Nintendo is that, as a fan who still plays my SNES alot, they don't seem to want my money. I want SNES and GBA games on the 3DS (and N64 if possible) but Nintendo, under current leadership, doesn't want me to buy them.

I spent alot on the Wii VC but there are still plenty of games that they didn't release that I would have bought. Lufia, Lufia II, Breath of Fire, Earthbound, Yoshi's Island, Secret of Evermore, Soul Blazer, Illusion of Gaia..just off the top of my head.

If Nintendo believes that fewer VC titles = me buying more current gen titles, they are mistaken.

I can say that I haven't really been happy with their first party console titles since the Gamecube. I thought Mario Galaxy was ok and I am struggling to think of anything else I completed on the WIi, besides VC stuff. The Wii U seems to be on the same path.

 

[omega 616]

Face it, if your claims were true and the only people buying the Wii were its die-hard fans, then Wii would never have outsold the NES.

Except, I'm claiming the opposite. How can you you argue against me when you don't even know what my argument is? As I said to somebody else I made a generalization about people who bought a wii, not every single wii is now unused.... I thought people on this site were smart enough to recognise a generalization when they saw it, people do use them all the time. (look, I just did it again)

The reason I never commented on the numbers you gave are 2 fold. 1) I'm on my phone, as my pc is a brick. My phone hates this site, keeps jumping the cursor around and it takes twice as long to write anything and scrolling up and down is a nightmare. 2) I don't trust numbers. They are so easy to manipulate, just look at cod this week "$1 billion of cod sold... To shops" and then there is that Ted talk called the "8 billion dollar ipod".

 

[omega 616]

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The first the you say to me is all about sales numbers of the wii and how they are better than the snes, so I follow your point, then you suddenly start talking about Mario, metriod and zelda... How am I meant to keep up?

The sales of Mario, metroid and zelda are supporting Nintendo. The wii, which is what you were talking about was and then what I started talking about was a flash but it doesn't support them, it just allowed them to fuck up the wiiU.

Except my Game, CEX and grainger games (all places that trade gaming related stuff) stopped accepting wii's for trade in, like with plastic guitars.

Wow, didn't know I was talking to a psych.. Must be bad at it though 'cos you keep misunderstanding me and you're wrong about excuse making. Ever since I saw that Ted talk years ago I've always took numbers with a pinch of salt. When I'm wrong I admit it, I've shown it a handful of times before on this site alone.

How much longer you going to keep this up? I'm growing wary.

 

[omega 616]

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Nah, I'm going to keep going till you get what I'm saying. Even though you're kind of new here, you still suffer from what I call "why so literal?" I speak in generalizations and I exaggerate a lot, makes it more interesting. Feel like I always have to be super serious and 100% literal about everything.

Oh and yeah, it is confusing when over 4 or 5 days you start off with one thing, anther person (ie: you) comes along talking about the snes, I follow suit and then without notice you start talking about what I was originally talking about. Sorry, am I human?

Why did I pick just 3 games? I picked the biggest and most well known, instead of scratching my head to think of 10 or 20 to type out, on a temprimental phone.

If you want to think I am making excuses then do so, you're opinion in that matter is irrelevant to the topic, as is you thinking I'm ridiculous.

Some friendly advice, might want to learn to let stuff go if your need to win is so great you write that last paragraph.

(ill try to be a little more literal) I'm still standing by my assertion that Nintendo rely on a small selection of games to keep going. They have some games that sell unexpectedly well, such as wii sports (which apparently old people love) but they have a stable they always rely on.

 

[omega 616]

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Whose whining? Just trying to help you understand what I'm saying. No need to be hostile.

Simple conversions flow, they stick to a topic. They don't act like Tigger on speed and bounce around.

Hey, did you just use a generalization? "even the most casual of gamers knows better" oh really, so housewives who play nothing but candy crush know that? Starting to see my point? Though, I'd make that argument.... Like I bought a Gameboy just for pokemon, I'd say a lot of people bought a 360 'cos they had mates on them who introduced them to gaming and the two biggest games on the system are Halo and cod but I'd throw gow in there as well.

Maybe I'm not saying it correctly, I can't post evidence or anything as I am on my phone. Anyway, you do realize that I am just stating an opinion? Don't always need evidence for them, just what you think of something.