Scar is the villianiest villian to ever villain up the joint.
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Is Roy Batty from Blade Runner a villain? I really can't decide, but if he is, he must be the best one of all time. Such a complex and tortured character.
Frollo-Beata Maria
You know I am a righteous man
Of my virtue I am justly proud
(No you are no-ot)
Frollo-Beata Maria
You know I'm so much purer than
The common, vulgar, weak, licentious crowd
(This guy is SUCH a hypocrite.)
Frollo's last verse-Hellfire
Dark fire
Now gypsy, it's your turn
Choose me or
Your pyre
Be mine or you will burn!
I think that small snippet of Hellfire is proof that Frollo was the truly most evil Disney Villian. Outside of Disney, the Daleks. They've been trying to destroy everything for the last 40 years.
You know I am a righteous man
Of my virtue I am justly proud
(No you are no-ot)
Frollo-Beata Maria
You know I'm so much purer than
The common, vulgar, weak, licentious crowd
(This guy is SUCH a hypocrite.)
Frollo's last verse-Hellfire
Dark fire
Now gypsy, it's your turn
Choose me or
Your pyre
Be mine or you will burn!
I think that small snippet of Hellfire is proof that Frollo was the truly most evil Disney Villian. Outside of Disney, the Daleks. They've been trying to destroy everything for the last 40 years.
Scar never came across to me as very villainous, I mean he's practically begging for forgiveness by the end.
My personal most villainous villain would be Shere Kahn of Jungle Book fame (NOT Mortal Kombat SHAU Kahn).
I think it's something about the way he acts and speaks, like Hannibal Lector but with claws. Feared throughout the jungle enough that entire wolf pack kicked Mowgli out, purely because the tiger had targeted him.
While Scar would wait until your at your most vaunrable before striking, Kahn is more likely to take you on regardless and toy with you until he's bored, and then kill you.
This is assuming you are a tiger or lion, since as web comic artist whose total battle experience is nothing more than shoving matches with playground bullies, I doubt that Scar would have to wait very long before making his move on me.
My personal most villainous villain would be Shere Kahn of Jungle Book fame (NOT Mortal Kombat SHAU Kahn).
I think it's something about the way he acts and speaks, like Hannibal Lector but with claws. Feared throughout the jungle enough that entire wolf pack kicked Mowgli out, purely because the tiger had targeted him.
While Scar would wait until your at your most vaunrable before striking, Kahn is more likely to take you on regardless and toy with you until he's bored, and then kill you.
This is assuming you are a tiger or lion, since as web comic artist whose total battle experience is nothing more than shoving matches with playground bullies, I doubt that Scar would have to wait very long before making his move on me.
Oddly enough I never really hated Griffith.Infernai said:
Sure he was totally egomaniacal, but almost all the people he had assassinated were just as much trying to kill him for being a commoner who gained the rank of nobility. He just outsmarted them.
And even his ultimate betrayal is somewhat understandable. Horrible, but understandable. The guy is basically reduced to nothing. His face is cut up, his silver tongue is cut out, and he can no longer stand or even hold a sword. He went from being a handsome, charismatic strategic genius with brilliant swordman's skills to a broken, mutilated and mute cripple who will have to be nursed for the rest of his miserable life.
And it's that moment when he realizes this that the Godhand appear; In his most desperate hour of need.
He's not even the best villain in Disney movies. That honour would go to Judge Claude Frollo, resident religious zealot of English-speaking Paris.
He's definitely a more tragic villain, and more of an arsehole. Sure Scar kills his brother and assumes control of his Kingdom for a decade or so, but beyond that... eh. I like Scar, don't get me wrong. He's one ofmy favourite villains, ever.
But speaking from an impartial standpoint, Frollo just has him outmatched. I mean if you look at Frollo, he: kills an innocent woman, tries to drown her baby son, has Paris pretty much entirely under his control, locks up a deformed guy in a belltower for his entire life and spends time every week emotionally bullying the poor dude, at one point tries to burn down a shitload of buildings to find one single woman, essentially attempts and is somewhat successful in the mass imprisonment of an entire group of people, threatens to kill one woman if she doesn't sleep with him, and then just goes ravingly insane trying to brutally murder two innocent people with a longsword.
Now I would argue that these qualifications make him better than Scar. Also, his villain song is better. Come on, "Be Prepared" is good and all, but "Hellfire" is just the shit!
Scar is, in my eyes, the 2nd best Disney villain. He has points for coolness but loses points when it transpires he is thoroughly inept whenever confronted directly. I mean come on, he actually dies while begging for mercy!
He's definitely a more tragic villain, and more of an arsehole. Sure Scar kills his brother and assumes control of his Kingdom for a decade or so, but beyond that... eh. I like Scar, don't get me wrong. He's one ofmy favourite villains, ever.
But speaking from an impartial standpoint, Frollo just has him outmatched. I mean if you look at Frollo, he: kills an innocent woman, tries to drown her baby son, has Paris pretty much entirely under his control, locks up a deformed guy in a belltower for his entire life and spends time every week emotionally bullying the poor dude, at one point tries to burn down a shitload of buildings to find one single woman, essentially attempts and is somewhat successful in the mass imprisonment of an entire group of people, threatens to kill one woman if she doesn't sleep with him, and then just goes ravingly insane trying to brutally murder two innocent people with a longsword.
Now I would argue that these qualifications make him better than Scar. Also, his villain song is better. Come on, "Be Prepared" is good and all, but "Hellfire" is just the shit!
Scar is, in my eyes, the 2nd best Disney villain. He has points for coolness but loses points when it transpires he is thoroughly inept whenever confronted directly. I mean come on, he actually dies while begging for mercy!
I think you need to watch the movie again because that is not really what happens.sir.rutthed said:
Still I agree he isnt a conventional villian.
OT: I kinda like Jafar.
I say you should take a look at Frollo from the Hunchback of Notre Dame, he has also the superior villian song2HF said:
And let's not forget how he turns up later in the fight with Pride, somehow able to keep his sense of self in a sea of damned souls because "their screams are music to his ears"...Oh and the awesome Pimpin' suit. Definitely my favourite villain/antagonist overall and one of the most evilcrimsonshrouds said:
As far Disney villains though, I'd say Scar is right up there with Chernabog
octafish said:
I was going to be upset if nobody had yet mentioned Shakespeare's work in this thread. Iago of Othello, in my opinion, is the greatest villain in any work of literature I have ever read, watched, or otherwise consumed. Lady Macbeth was pretty nasty, too, for the first couple acts, anyway.Jerram Fahey said:
Also, Ursula from The Little Mermaid is pretty diabolical. She didn't have a very good song, but she used deceit to overthrow King Triton. Especially since she had competent minions.
