Science Finds Male Nerds Likely to be Virgins

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searanox said:
Funny, people have been accusing me of being an "Aspie" lately, and despite my adamant objections some of the symptoms do seem to line up (avoiding eye contact, social difficulties, mild obsessions, ranting about stuff incessantly to the point of boredom/frustration of others, etc.), though I'm not quite as horrible as I make myself out to be. I tend to just chalk things up to the years of depression and social ostracism, myself. Maybe I do need to give up some ground.

Blast, and I'd thought I'd figured out how everything works.
I have a four-year-old Autie, and I say that if you're going to be different, the autism spectrum is a pretty cool kind of different to be. It's basically a nerd with a diagnosis.

It's a matter of degree. I, for instance, break out into a cold sweat if I have to make a telephone call to someone I don't know well. I can still do it, I just don't like to. Also, I'm neurotic as hell about crazy shit, like the way the dishwasher is loaded, or whether my food touches. My kid, on the other hand, will literally go thirsty if we don't have the right brand of juice boxes. He has a significant language delay and is actually, cognitively unable to comprehend figurative speech at an age-appropriate level. ("Sit up" is really confusing to him; you have to say, "put your bottom on the chair and your feet on the floor.")

Rule of thumb: If it impairs you socially or professionally, you might be an Aspie. If you're weird but can generally deal with it, you probably don't fit the bill. Either way, if you've made it this far without a diagnosis, getting one now probably won't help you much (except perhaps psychologically, if that's an issue.)

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jay-ell said:
I have a four-year-old Autie, and I say that if you're going to be different, the autism spectrum is a pretty cool kind of different to be. It's basically a nerd with a diagnosis.

It's a matter of degree. I, for instance, break out into a cold sweat if I have to make a telephone call to someone I don't know well. I can still do it, I just don't like to. Also, I'm neurotic as hell about crazy shit, like the way the dishwasher is loaded, or whether my food touches. My kid, on the other hand, will literally go thirsty if we don't have the right brand of juice boxes. He has a significant language delay and is actually, cognitively unable to comprehend figurative speech at an age-appropriate level. ("Sit up" is really confusing to him; you have to say, "put your bottom on the chair and your feet on the floor.")

Rule of thumb: If it impairs you socially or professionally, you might be an Aspie. If you're weird but can generally deal with it, you probably don't fit the bill. Either way, if you've made it this far without a diagnosis, getting one now probably won't help you much (except perhaps psychologically, if that's an issue.)

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I am much closer to you, of those two examples. If I am autistic or have Asperger's, it's never been diagnosed or documented, and I would have to have a mild case, though the social impairment does seem to make sense. I am able to get along and function just fine with other people, so long as I know them well, but I find myself having a lot of trouble with strangers and it's very difficult for me to have a good conversation with someone else I don't know well or in groups, unless it is within the confines of a structure, like, say, a university work group or classroom. I also tend to get obsessed with things both temporarily and over a fairly long time (music and videogames being the two chief examples), am constantly thinking, get frequent headaches, rant on for extended periods of time often without realising I'm really doing it or annoying others (I've noticed it in this thread, and have to keep reminding myself to stop, or at least make paragraph breaks), I find it much easier to communicate through text than spoken language, I crave routine and the familiar, I have a huge amount of trouble making eye contact (save, again, for strangers) etc. At the same time, though, I evidently do well enough to convince everyone else that I'm fairly normal.

I really have no idea if you're an expert of any sort on the topic (you seem to know something). I also realise that I've derailed this thread horribly (I do that a lot). This... this should probably stop now.
 

jay-ell

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searanox said:
I really have no idea if you're an expert of any sort on the topic (you seem to know something). I also realise that I've derailed this thread horribly (I do that a lot). This... this should probably stop now.
Agreed. You can PM me if you want and we can discuss privately or I can direct you to some resources. I'm not an expert by any means, but I have 3 diagnosed auties in my close family (son, nephew, cousin) so I have had to educate myself. I'm happy to discuss my experiences privately or in a dedicated, separate thread.
 

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Well, I must really live in bizarro world. You see, I'm a scientist. Most of my friends are scientists, engineers, or psychologists. And you know what? Pretty much everyone is in a relationship, getting laid or whatever. Pretty much everyone one of us is quite socially competent or donwright party animal. The one person who tends towards social apathy is, surprise, surprise, the artist. Well, she's a writer so that's still a little on the nerdy side.

Also, a widely spread opinion at my university: the two faculties with the highest ratio of good looking women: Science and Medicine. Well, Science might be offset by the abnormaly high number of good looking girls in biology.
 

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Whats wrong with being a virgin? People act like i'm missing out on some fundamental experiance of life because I havn't humiliated myself infront of a woman in an intimate setting.

Porn + Fap = Just as good.
 

jay-ell

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I think the consensus so far has been that there's nothing inherently wrong with virginity, but that certain shallow people will think less of you for it anyway.

Personally, as the parent of a daughter, I'm highly pro-virginity. ;)
 

Johnny Ringo

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Yes, but virgins have a lower risk of contracting STD's.

I'm sorry, but aren't there still diseases out there to cure, mysteries to unravel, Galaxies to explore and mice to test on? And a study on how often nerd's "Get it on" made priority... how?
 

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TsunamiWombat said:
Whats wrong with being a virgin? People act like i'm missing out on some fundamental experiance of life because I havn't humiliated myself infront of a woman in an intimate setting.
Film yourself saying this and put it on YouTube with your real name, and see if you still don't think there's something wrong with it.

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Yes, but virgins have a lower risk of contracting STD's.

I'm sorry, but aren't there still diseases out there to cure, mysteries to unravel, Galaxies to explore and mice to test on? And a study on how often nerd's "Get it on" made priority... how?
Um...it's funny? And cheap. You don't need a superpowered orbital telescope to watch unkempt geeks fail with women.
 

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Anyone else think this is ironic what so ever? This is a 'scientific study' most likely by scientists saying "well we don't get laid too often when we were younger now did we?"
 

ElephantGuts

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Good thing I don't particularly like science. And even I did I would not use it as an excuse for any shortcomings in my sex life. I am a man and if I'm not getting laid it's my fault. Luckily I don't think I will have any such problems. Too early to tell.

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TsunamiWombat said:
Whats wrong with being a virgin? People act like i'm missing out on some fundamental experiance of life because I havn't humiliated myself infront of a woman in an intimate setting.

Porn + Fap = Just as good.
So...you are a virgin? Come on, I'm a virgin and even I see what's horribly wrong with that sentence.
 

John Stalvern

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"Who are the people at unis that go to the rave parties and the bar? It's not the nerdy boy science students. They're carrying on doing their experiments, going to the library or doing their assignments."
This is where I raised my eyebrows. The rational in this "study" appears to be grounded more in stereotype than science.
 

KimMR251

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Haha. I don't see the point of this thread. No, I guess I didn't read the entire thread, however there is nothing bad about being a virgin, and I am in love w/ a science nerd :)
 

rapidoud

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Being a virgin is the least of my problems, and this is as bad as the "Spore isn't Scientific" study.

What they should be looking at is the mental illnesses of people with brain damage or just unlucky, oh and the retarded 99% of the population too!