Science Links Videogames to Heightened Creativity
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You mean that study that was very scientific and well backed up right? I mean, you just had to look at the second page of comments to figure that out Andy. You know, the page with the links to the very scientific journal, full of very good evidence. I understand why you may have missed it. I wasn't able to find the journal until I found the link in the comments on your article. Maybe you should read it too.Andy Chalk said:
OT: Pretty cool. Apparently games make me creative as well as make me doubt my own humanity. Of course, this only implies correlation between playing video games and creativity, not necessarily causation, but that's still pretty cool.
Because this is a gaming site. You want hard scientific analysis, you should probably go elsewhere. Do I really need to explain how this works?CosmicCommander said:
I did design space ships when I younger, plus tanks and droids. i am rather creative.
Thank you video games.
Thank you video games.
Hehe now I got 2 scientific articles to track down over the next week ^^
What I love about this research is even without knowing the details, the sample size being the healthy amount of 500 (and a specific population at that! only children in this case) means the results will be interesting no matter what they find.
Michigan Uni however, are way cooler and awesome and have the article online
In caps so as no one misses it:
ACTUAL RESEARCH HERE!!!!!!!
http://news.msu.edu/media/documents/2011/11/33ba0f16-a2e9-4d36-b063-2f540f115970.pdf
RESEARCH^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
For those who like to read research reports, enjoy the read!
What I love about this research is even without knowing the details, the sample size being the healthy amount of 500 (and a specific population at that! only children in this case) means the results will be interesting no matter what they find.
I'll give you a get out of jail card for this one Andy:Unis that only publish their research in journals tend to be rather protective of them and not share them for free, that was the case with the University of Queenland's research. So you have an excuse in that it's hard to get a hold of these articles unless you're part of the approved press or get yourself a copy of the relevant journals (which im not sure escapist will be happy to pay for and nor would you want to pay out of your own pocket).Andy Chalk said:
Michigan Uni however, are way cooler and awesome and have the article online
In caps so as no one misses it:ACTUAL RESEARCH HERE!!!!!!!
http://news.msu.edu/media/documents/2011/11/33ba0f16-a2e9-4d36-b063-2f540f115970.pdf
RESEARCH^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
For those who like to read research reports, enjoy the read!
Have a big internet cookie, for a) actually bothering to seek out the article yourself and b)knowing correlation=/= causation, a mistake I see far too many people do on this site.Revnak said:
I'm taking this one with a grain of salt. On one hand, visiting a well made world and all that may open up some minds or get them started on a track for something. On the other hand, there are people like me who only want to visit worlds created by other people and don't have an ounce of creativity.
Well, personally, I'll take this as direct scientific proof that video games are art.
Think about it, why do we read novels? Why do we look at paintings? Why do watch our weekly soaps? Fantasy - Ideas. Maybe it's a good story, maybe it's a style we enjoy, but at the end of the day, it's that we want, perhaps even need, to expose ourselves to other people's ideas. Art is just a canvas, be that canvas literal canvas, celluloid or even in this case code, when you put ideas onto it, it's becomes something undeniably human, and we enhance ourselves through it.
Also, it turns out alcohol transforms me into some kind of philosopher. Who knew?
Think about it, why do we read novels? Why do we look at paintings? Why do watch our weekly soaps? Fantasy - Ideas. Maybe it's a good story, maybe it's a style we enjoy, but at the end of the day, it's that we want, perhaps even need, to expose ourselves to other people's ideas. Art is just a canvas, be that canvas literal canvas, celluloid or even in this case code, when you put ideas onto it, it's becomes something undeniably human, and we enhance ourselves through it.
Also, it turns out alcohol transforms me into some kind of philosopher. Who knew?
ABOUT FUCKING TIME AN EXPERT SAID SOMETHING THAT IS PROVABLE AND MADE SOME GOD DAMN SENSE!!!!
that is all.....
that is all.....
That can't possibly be true.
It's a story that paints gaming in a positive light, and isn't backed up by a massively bias propagandist collective.
It's a story that paints gaming in a positive light, and isn't backed up by a massively bias propagandist collective.
Regardless of studies, I've always felt this to be true of video games. It's why I would love to be a game designer someday-- I want to inspire future generations the way I've been inspired. I want to help humanity evolve (and of course have some fun) through my favorite art form.
Eh, call me skeptical. I don't think that multiplayer/racing/sports focused gamers are necessarily more creative.
Also, how do you quantify creativity?
Also, how do you quantify creativity?
The study used a standardized test that I linked to in the article (here it is again [http://www.ststesting.com/ngifted.html]) but the specifics beyond that are hazy. As others have mentioned, hard details are to be found in the studies themselves, not the publicly-released overviews that we generally report on. How do you quantify creativity? How do you define humanity? You set some arbitrary baseline and go from there.
That's one of the issues I have with studies that claim to "confirm" the dangers of gaming. They so often appear to begin with the assumption that games are dangerous and then move to prove their point, and finding evidence to support an already-held belief is never too difficult - especially in a soft field like psychology. I think it's mostly bullshit on both sides of the debate - what games "do" depend entirely upon who they're doing it to - but anti-games studies are particularly odious because they often obviously serve an agenda.
For the record, and we could've been having this pleasant conversation yesterday if people would just learn how to play nice, my "bias" isn't pro-game but anti-bullshit. I make no apologies for that and I certainly don't intend to change it.
That's one of the issues I have with studies that claim to "confirm" the dangers of gaming. They so often appear to begin with the assumption that games are dangerous and then move to prove their point, and finding evidence to support an already-held belief is never too difficult - especially in a soft field like psychology. I think it's mostly bullshit on both sides of the debate - what games "do" depend entirely upon who they're doing it to - but anti-games studies are particularly odious because they often obviously serve an agenda.
For the record, and we could've been having this pleasant conversation yesterday if people would just learn how to play nice, my "bias" isn't pro-game but anti-bullshit. I make no apologies for that and I certainly don't intend to change it.
It might lead to heightened creativity, but simultaneously restrains that creativity from being realised (you know, too busy wasting your life playing games).