In that case they should get started on prehistoric mammals instead.
I'll have a mastodon please. Though I would settle for a giant sloth.
I'll have a mastodon please. Though I would settle for a giant sloth.
Science Officially Stomps All Hope of Dinosaur Cloning
- Thread starter Mike Kayatta
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Well, time travel isn't necessarily disproven. It is not possible within our understanding of space-time, but we can't understand everything of it yet, maybe we will never. Basic problem of modern science. Maybe there's still a way to clone a dinosaur JP style, we just know from experimenting that DNA half-life is somewhat above 500 years. Maybe at the end of the year, Cthulhu will come through a portal from the border of the universe, or another dimension and enslave earth, you can't say it's impossible, just because the chance is extremely small and we wouldn't know how.The Random One said:
cynicalsaint1 has it right, and this was discussed in the original Jurassic Park (The Hammond and Dr. Henry Wu [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park_%28novel%29] that the process of extrapolating dinosaur DNA by filling in the blanks from other species (mostly frogs) doesn't create authentic dinosaurs, but a Frankensteinian approximation. We can't be sure that any given feature of a species is from its dinosaur ancestry or from the borrowed genes.
Wu even suggests modifying the dinos to make them more manageable, the way they added their lysine dependence to keep them from successfully escaping the park.
Similarly, Dr. Lewis Dodgson from Biosyn discusses the current monopoly Ingen has on cloned dinosaurs, and extrapolates the idea selling modified dinosaurs as pets. Of course, these wouldn't be actual unaltered dino species but a modified and domesticated version (because real, wild animals are dangerous [http://www.cracked.com/article_15853_the-6-cutest-animals-that-can-still-destroy-you.html]). We might as well also make them require Ingen's special patented dino-chow blend of feed. Say, because of that lysine dependence.
The point is, we'd never have been able to truly acquire true dinosaurs anyway, but we will be able to design from the ground up some critters that look very much like dinosaurs, and convey to the public an "authentic dinosaur experience" or as much of one as they'd want anyway. With or without feathers as you prefer.
So, true dinosaurs like from the Cretaceous period weren't a likely thing anyway. But who cares. We'll get our dinosaurs and then some, and customize them to consumer perfection.
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Wu even suggests modifying the dinos to make them more manageable, the way they added their lysine dependence to keep them from successfully escaping the park.
Similarly, Dr. Lewis Dodgson from Biosyn discusses the current monopoly Ingen has on cloned dinosaurs, and extrapolates the idea selling modified dinosaurs as pets. Of course, these wouldn't be actual unaltered dino species but a modified and domesticated version (because real, wild animals are dangerous [http://www.cracked.com/article_15853_the-6-cutest-animals-that-can-still-destroy-you.html]). We might as well also make them require Ingen's special patented dino-chow blend of feed. Say, because of that lysine dependence.
The point is, we'd never have been able to truly acquire true dinosaurs anyway, but we will be able to design from the ground up some critters that look very much like dinosaurs, and convey to the public an "authentic dinosaur experience" or as much of one as they'd want anyway. With or without feathers as you prefer.
http://fap.to/images/full/47/437/437436594.jpg
Is this a mammal or not? I'M CONFUSED.
Is this a mammal or not? I'M CONFUSED.
So, true dinosaurs like from the Cretaceous period weren't a likely thing anyway. But who cares. We'll get our dinosaurs and then some, and customize them to consumer perfection.
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These epic gifs!Andy Shandy said:I'll join in on that.Nasrin said:
This makes me pretty sad. Now I won't be able to get that Compsognathus I've always wanted T.T
It is truly a sad day, when my dreams of riding a T-Rex to work are doomed.
Keep em coming, I need moar bookmarks!
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well that was rude..
That made me chuckle.Mike Kayatta said:
I don't know if its been mentioned but they have had results in genetic engineering. They were actually able to create a chicken embryo with teeth and a tail... granted thats a far cry from the Cretaceous mega Hyena that is T.Rex.
It may be too late if the half-life of DNA really is 521 years...on the plus side, we could potentially see Tasmanian Tigers or, Dodos return...possibly...Scorpid said:
Strange. I should feel relieved. I'm instead disappointed beyond belief. I didn't realize I felt this way.
This is almost as bad as the time someone told me "You know a Portal Gun is impossible, right?"
On the upside, as Mike was saying in this thread, we might well be able to farm Smilodons and mammoths, within our lifetimes. Oooh, or maybe we can start the process for miniaturization of animals, and we can have shoulder mounted ones!
This is almost as bad as the time someone told me "You know a Portal Gun is impossible, right?"
On the upside, as Mike was saying in this thread, we might well be able to farm Smilodons and mammoths, within our lifetimes. Oooh, or maybe we can start the process for miniaturization of animals, and we can have shoulder mounted ones!
Did we not know this already, like, a few years ago? I could swear I was in primary school when I heard this first.
But yeah, damn. I guess genetic engineering is our only way. Hey, an iguana-bear would be just as good as a dinosaur as far as I'm concerned.
But yeah, damn. I guess genetic engineering is our only way. Hey, an iguana-bear would be just as good as a dinosaur as far as I'm concerned.
That's not exactly true. This just disproves one method of cloning dinosaurs.
What if there was Dinosaur DNA that somehow got propelled near the speed of light and ended up in modern day? Then we'd have dinosaur DNA.
What if there was Dinosaur DNA that somehow got propelled near the speed of light and ended up in modern day? Then we'd have dinosaur DNA.
This is news? I've know cloned Dinosaurs were never going to happen since grade 8 when a guide at the Royal Terrel Museum in Drumheller pretty much said as much because the DNA just can't survive that long.
We'd probably have to update them dramatically enve if we did have intact DNA. The oxygen levels in the modern atmosphere are much lower, I think, than the dinosaurs were adapted for. We could probably rebuild some of them (at least in an approximate sense) with DNA from living descendants, but let's settle for re-makiung some of the megafauna that probably only died out because we ate 'em all.
Wait, so we could still clone other recently extinct and near extinct species? because I want a pet dodo!
Science do me proud.
Science do me proud.
wow, 1 study and suddenly it's impossible? I remember a time when they thought cloning was impossible or sequencing genetics.... and look at us now. in the realm of sciences, you can usually spot the "junk science" when they use words like "never" or "impossible".
that said, it's just going to be much HARDER for us to do it... not impossible. sure, most dna will decay, but there may be circumstances where just a few segments survive... find enough... and well... you get the idea. in science, nothing is impossible... it's just a new challenge!
that said, it's just going to be much HARDER for us to do it... not impossible. sure, most dna will decay, but there may be circumstances where just a few segments survive... find enough... and well... you get the idea. in science, nothing is impossible... it's just a new challenge!
"Science Officially Stomps All Hope of Dinosaur Cloning"
For now.
Most people don't really see this, but humanity has a tenacity about us.
Man can't survive aquatic conditions, man learns to swim.
Man can't swim an Ocean, man creates Boat.
Man can't fly, man creates Airplanes.
Man can't survive outer space, man creates Spaceship.
Science proves a lot of things, Earth is flat, the Sun revolves around the Earth, hell, there was a small point in history where science proved that since space doesn't have atmosphere, we wouldn't be able to propel ourselves through it. This is why we have scientists, to take what is considered impossible and find a way.
Friggin' nay-saying scientists saying something's impossible. Nothing but my disdain.
For now.
Most people don't really see this, but humanity has a tenacity about us.
Man can't survive aquatic conditions, man learns to swim.
Man can't swim an Ocean, man creates Boat.
Man can't fly, man creates Airplanes.
Man can't survive outer space, man creates Spaceship.
Science proves a lot of things, Earth is flat, the Sun revolves around the Earth, hell, there was a small point in history where science proved that since space doesn't have atmosphere, we wouldn't be able to propel ourselves through it. This is why we have scientists, to take what is considered impossible and find a way.
Friggin' nay-saying scientists saying something's impossible. Nothing but my disdain.