Scientist Invents World's First Perfectly Healthy Pizza

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Kinguendo said:
I was surprised the Scots created this, though I am always glad when people smash national stereotypes.
"Scottish scientists create perfectly healthy pizza... fry it"
I'm sorry to say this was my first thought. But I have eaten deep fried Mars bar, there is no denying!
 

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I love pizza, and I applaud these scientists for what they've done. Seaweed to salt the dough - ingenious! And they're already turning their sights towards making other kinds of junkfood healthy... my my my, the possibilities! :D
Hopefully this product will really take off, and eventually make its way over to continental Europe.
 

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Kinguendo said:
I was surprised the Scots created this, though I am always glad when people smash national stereotypes.
Really? I thought it was pretty much in-line with the Scottish stereotype.

"I really want a deep-fried pizza, but my doctor says if I have one more I might develop megacancer...wait a tick, I know!"

=D

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The question remains - is it tastier than Dominos Pizza? If it is, then I will never stop buying this product.
 

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Mr.Tea said:
"World's first"?

What a load of bullshit. Just making a pizza with good ingredients is already a healthy and very well-rounded meal.
Just because people can't be arsed to choose and eat good food themselves doesn't make this a world first by any stretch of the imagination.
OK, eat a pizza for every meal for a month and get back to me with your health records :D

Or, y'know... read the entire article
 

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LavaLampBamboo said:
So... this is it right? This is the beginning of the revolutionary point in history when we finally turn science towards making all food healthy and it becomes possible to eat basically anything for dinner and not be too concerned about, you know dying young?

BECAUSE THAT'D BE COOL GUYS
Yup.

Soon you'll be able to have a triple bacon cheeseburger with 4 kinds of cheese and fried chicken on top and not feel like you may die immediately afterwards!

Make it happen Science!
 

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I can't wait to try it! Seems good, especially if the taters claim it tastes just as good as, if not better than, regular pizza.

Of course, if it tastes like crap then I doubt I'd buy it again, but I'm keeping a very open and favourable mind towards it.
 

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BrionJames said:
Uh hello Scottish health scientists? Please make a healthy version of the bacon cheeseburger. I love those things but don't want to die in my 40's because of them.
Lose the bun (and the fries that probably accompany it). Seriously, it's the carbs, particularly from wheat which cause weight gain, diabetes and heart disease. I wouldn't have some fast food bacon cheeseburger everyday or anything, but if you lose the bun it'll be a lot less bad for you. Make them at home with some grass fed ground beef and it would be even better.

On a related note, unless this Pizza is doing away with the wheat crust and still includes some good quality meat, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole if I held any illusions of eating a healthy meal.
 

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Vivi22 said:
BrionJames said:
Uh hello Scottish health scientists? Please make a healthy version of the bacon cheeseburger. I love those things but don't want to die in my 40's because of them.
Lose the bun (and the fries that probably accompany it). Seriously, it's the carbs, particularly from wheat which cause weight gain, diabetes and heart disease. I wouldn't have some fast food bacon cheeseburger everyday or anything, but if you lose the bun it'll be a lot less bad for you. Make them at home with some grass fed ground beef and it would be even better.

On a related note, unless this Pizza is doing away with the wheat crust and still includes some good quality meat, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole if I held any illusions of eating a healthy meal.
The bread isn't the unhealthy part of a bacon cheese-burger it's the enormous fat content in every single item of the burger between the buns. Please don't make me get science out to show how bread is healthy, the Atkins diet is not healthy and I'm fairly sure this is what you're extoling.
 

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nikki191 said:
the country that brough the world bagpipes, men in kilts with big scary swords and haggis now brings us healthy pizza :) go scotland !
They also brought us deep-fried mars bars. Just... that seemed worth mentioning given the topic of discussion.
 

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Scotland. Healthy.



I bet its disgusting. There's no such thing as a healthy but nice pizza.
Just looked at the article and its made of seaweed. Hell no.

Also its so small it will have the same problem most healthy food has, its so unfilling you have to eat 2 or 3 of them to actually constitute a meal, making it no longer healthy. They say its supposed to give you 30% of you days nutrients. There's no way in hell that tiny thing is gonna fill you up for 30% of the day.
 

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Pretty cool but it'll probably cost a ton and I doubt it tastes that good.

On another note, what is it with all the people in here fetishizing bacon?
Expand your fast food horizon, try one of those:

I'm not even sure they need to be "made healthy".
 

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CaptainMarvelous said:
The bread isn't the unhealthy part of a bacon cheese-burger it's the enormous fat content in every single item of the burger between the buns. Please don't make me get science out to show how bread is healthy, the Atkins diet is not healthy and I'm fairly sure this is what you're extoling.
If all you're going to do is trot out some poorly performed and reported observational studies which every meta-analysis I've seen has shown have failed to demonstrate a consistent, reproducible link between dietary fat and heart disease, then yes, I'd ask you not get the "science" to show that bread is healthy. This is to say nothing of the fact that the mechanisms behind heart disease, namely inflammation damaging arterial walls and small LDL particles in the blood filling in the damaged artery walls, are known to result from uncontrolled blood sugar and a process called Glycation. One of the leading direct causes being wheat since government and people who should know better have been pushing ungodly amounts of the stuff on the population for years. Small LDL particles aren't created by the body in sufficient quantities to be a problem until you over consume carbohydrates. Even better is that the worrisome levels of triglycerides many people deal with are produced in the body when insufficient levels of dietary fat, including saturated fats, are being consumed. I hate to break it to you, but the dietary recommendations government has been pushing for decades are practically a recipe book for having a fat, diabetic population dying of heart disease.

And if you don't believe that bread wreaks havoc on blood sugar I'd recommend buying a blood glucose meter and testing your own blood sugar an hour after having a couple of pieces of toast.

If you'd like to learn a bit more on the subject, feel free to read the book Wheat Belly by Dr. William Davis. It was quite thoroughly researched, sourced, and is well written so it's a surprisingly easy read given the subject matter. I could recommend more books if you'd like, though one written by a cardiologist who's treated thousands of patients who either were developing or had already developed heart disease by getting them to cut out wheat products and sugar is pretty compelling. Even more compelling is that the results of his dietary recommendations were consistent and reproducible.

And I'm not extolling any particular diet save one that recognizes that uncontrolled spikes in blood glucose are the biggest issue facing modern human health and removes the largest contributors to it.
 

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Does that mean Pizza is now officially a vegatable in Scotland?

Because this reason makes far more sense for it to be.
 

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Vivi22 said:
CaptainMarvelous said:
The bread isn't the unhealthy part of a bacon cheese-burger it's the enormous fat content in every single item of the burger between the buns. Please don't make me get science out to show how bread is healthy, the Atkins diet is not healthy and I'm fairly sure this is what you're extoling.
If all you're going to do is trot out some poorly performed and reported observational studies which every meta-analysis I've seen has shown have failed to demonstrate a consistent, reproducible link between dietary fat and heart disease, then yes, I'd ask you not get the "science" to show that bread is healthy. This is to say nothing of the fact that the mechanisms behind heart disease, namely inflammation damaging arterial walls and small LDL particles in the blood filling in the damaged artery walls, are known to result from uncontrolled blood sugar and a process called Glycation. One of the leading direct causes being wheat since government and people who should know better have been pushing ungodly amounts of the stuff on the population for years. Small LDL particles aren't created by the body in sufficient quantities to be a problem until you over consume carbohydrates. Even better is that the worrisome levels of triglycerides many people deal with are produced in the body when insufficient levels of dietary fat, including saturated fats, are being consumed. I hate to break it to you, but the dietary recommendations government has been pushing for decades are practically a recipe book for having a fat, diabetic population dying of heart disease.

And if you don't believe that bread wreaks havoc on blood sugar I'd recommend buying a blood glucose meter and testing your own blood sugar an hour after having a couple of pieces of toast.

If you'd like to learn a bit more on the subject, feel free to read the book Wheat Belly by Dr. William Davis. It was quite thoroughly researched, sourced, and is well written so it's a surprisingly easy read given the subject matter. I could recommend more books if you'd like, though one written by a cardiologist who's treated thousands of patients who either were developing or had already developed heart disease by getting them to cut out wheat products and sugar is pretty compelling. Even more compelling is that the results of his dietary recommendations were consistent and reproducible.

And I'm not extolling any particular diet save one that recognizes that uncontrolled spikes in blood glucose are the biggest issue facing modern human health and removes the largest contributors to it.
Right, so to clarify you are saying that heart disease is caused by bread that contains Low Density Lipoproteins and encourages the flow of cholesterol rather than the excessive consumption of cholestrol? Heart disease is not caused by fat but by having a means to collect that fat, the actual fat content is irrelevant? This is your stance? That dietary fat doesn't cause heart disease, eating bread does. Just... going to leave that argument alone for now because I think we need a stronger point addressed here.

Why do you think bread contains LDL? I seem to be struggling to find a scientific source with evidence or figures or... well, anything. A lot of sites claiming they know more than doctors about medicine but that's it. Even given that it is true, the process you describe makes significantly more sense if you assume a source high in glycerol was responsible like... sugar. Wheat has been a staple food of a certain portion of humanity for years, and ignoring the 1% with Coeliacs disease is generally non-harmful. If you were to argue bread now contains more SUGAR (which it does) you're argument would hold more merit as well as making more sense. Alternatively, a scientific journal that reports it would be nice.