From the country that gave us deep fried pizza I say Fuckin' hypocrits - I think I spelled that wrong...anyways...Fanghawk said:Scientist Invents World's First Perfectly Healthy Pizza
Scottish brainiacs have developed a nutritionally balanced pizza that can (and should) be eaten three times a day.
Pizza is a surprisingly complex food. It's delicious, relatively easy to make, and can be created with a near infinite variety of toppings. You may prefer other meals, but the odds are pretty low that anyone will build specialized restaurants around them that deliver right to your doorstep. The only problem is that eating copious amounts of pizza on a regular basis lends itself to an early death via heart disease or diabetes. But since nobody in their right mind was ever going to stop eating pizza to prevent little things like heart attacks, a Scottish team at Glasgow University has done a great service to humankind: they designed "nutritionally balanced" pizzas that can be consumed for every meal without putting yourself into a coma.
It all began when Professor Mike Lean of the university's human nutrition department became frustrated with the nutritional content of processed meals. "They contain as much salt as you should have in a whole day or more," Lane said. "They contain as much saturated fat as you should have in a whole day or more. The nutrients we need every day are absent from these meals. Nobody has thought about it. So I got together with [Eat Balanced Founder Donnie Maclean] to try to do this."
Using pizza as an example of "common foods eaten in huge numbers" that could be consumed at any time of day, Lean and Maclean started looking at ways to raise nutrient and vitamin content while lowering calories and carbohydrates to reasonable levels. The final product, using nutrient-rich seaweed in the dough, can actually meet most of the body's needs when eaten three times a day. "Each pizza gives a complete meal, with all the nutrients in it, for 30% of your day," Maclean explained.
But is it any good? According to 100 taste testers, the nutritional pizza is ranked as good or better than other frozen pizzas currently available on the market. United Kingdom Supermarkets are already in talks to bring the pizzas to their stores, but Lean and Maclean are moving on to develop recipes for nutritionally balanced fish and chips. Seriously.
While we'll have to wait and see whether nutritionally balanced meals will make their way to North America, please feel free to share which favorite artery-clogging meal you'd like to see a healthy version of in the comments.
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I didn't say it does contain LDL. I said that small-LDL particles, the ones which actually clog arteries, are produced in the body through Glycation. A process which only occurs as a result of the body processing glucose. Wheat products just happen to send blood glucose sky rocketing in most people resulting in setting the whole process of the body producing small LDL in motion.CaptainMarvelous said:Why do you think bread contains LDL? I seem to be struggling to find a scientific source with evidence or figures or... well, anything.
It's been a staple for a tiny fraction of human history. And since wheat rarely kills before we reproduce (since type 2 diabetes and heart disease rarely developed before puberty, or at least, used to), there's been next to no evolutionary pressure to adapt to. The problem is exacerbated by the fact that modern wheat, a product which has been extensively altered at the genetic level to the point where it's nothing like what your grandparents ate not to mention never underwent human testing prior to being put into use, has a much greater impact on blood glucose than the stuff we were eating even 75 years ago, to say nothing of 1,000 years ago or more.Wheat has been a staple food of a certain portion of humanity for years, and ignoring the 1% with Coeliacs disease is generally non-harmful.
poiumty said:/facepalmviranimus said:Right, and nothing scientist have said has ever been proven horrifically wrong, or you know, not ended up killing people.
So no.. when it comes to scienctists and "creating" things that go into human bodies, No I do not trust them nor have they done anything to deserve such trust.
Totally.
You know those things... those things called medicine? That make people better? You know, aspirin, penicillin, all that stuff?
Guess who made those. No, really. Guess. I'll give you a hint: it begins with "s" and ends with "-motherfucking-cientists".
BUT NO! Feel free to live in your paranoid little world, where scientists are bad and kill people, and the fact that we live about 3 times as much as we did before they came along NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED. Then I can just pretend your viewpoint isn't gushing with neanderthal levels of ignorance.
Nobody forced you to.DVS BSTrD said:I still refuse to call it a vegetable!
Make them at home. I know that I am using actual cheese instead of orange flavored fat, I know I am not drowning the fries in salt, I let bacon cook on it's own grease, I go easy on the sauces. A little garlic and pepper and you will need less salt on the burger patties. DONE.BrionJames said:Uh hello Scottish health scientists? Please make a healthy version of the bacon cheeseburger. I love those things but don't want to die in my 40's because of them.
Research by say.... other scientists? Which happens all the time in the scientific community, or can you not trust the scientific community at all? Cause they're all scientists.viranimus said:poiumty said:/facepalmviranimus said:Right, and nothing scientist have said has ever been proven horrifically wrong, or you know, not ended up killing people.
So no.. when it comes to scienctists and "creating" things that go into human bodies, No I do not trust them nor have they done anything to deserve such trust.
Totally.
You know those things... those things called medicine? That make people better? You know, aspirin, penicillin, all that stuff?
Guess who made those. No, really. Guess. I'll give you a hint: it begins with "s" and ends with "-motherfucking-cientists".
BUT NO! Feel free to live in your paranoid little world, where scientists are bad and kill people, and the fact that we live about 3 times as much as we did before they came along NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED. Then I can just pretend your viewpoint isn't gushing with neanderthal levels of ignorance.
Drugs
www.fda.gov/downloads/Safety/Recalls/UCM197813.pdf
http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/GuidanceComplianceRegulatoryInformation/Surveillance/AdverseDrugEffects/UCM082196
http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/default.htm
http://www.mcneilproductrecall.com/new_recall
Interactions
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/health&id=5320077
http://reference.medscape.com/drug-interactionchecker
Other effects
http://www.npr.org/2011/09/27/140849083/prescription-drug-deaths-major-killer-in-the-u-s
http://www.naturalnews.com/009278.html
Prosthetic
http://www.depuy.com/asr-hip-replacement-recall
http://mailman2.u.washington.edu/pipermail/amp-l/2006-April/012751.html
Environmental
http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/should-nuclear-power-be-expanded/inherently-dangerous-technology-cannot-be-made-inherently-safe
http://listosaur.com/science-a-technology/top-10-most-dangerous-environmental-toxins-in-the-u.s..html
Technologic
http://www.techlicious.com/blog/the-most-dangerous-tech-products/
Or you completely inferred your own definition as to what I said. Did I say sciences should not exist? No. Did I say that they do not do good things? No. What I said was... I do not inherently and blindly trust them.
So you are entitled to go off half cocked and CAPS enraged in a personal attack armed with an incorrect assumption as to the meaning of my statement and the incorrect assumption of conservative Christian ideology. Then start wailing because someone said something that portrays those who the youth and atheists hold as high holy paragons of the modern age in a much more revealing light.
Think on a few things. Without as many "scientific advancements" as we have, we would not have the need we have to treat as many ailments as we do. Many of our ailments are caused by environmental factors such as how we generate power, how we grow our food, Construct our homes, paint our walls, how we do many things, then these ailments come up and we are given unnatural concoctions to compensate for some of those conditions and those unnatural concoctions end up causing their own problems. Many times they are viewed within "acceptable levels". Then we have new drugs that come out, that have been tested 5-10 years yet our scientists tell the world, its OK for you to take this drug that you will need to take for the rest of your life for 20,30 years or more even though we have not tested it for nearly that long and can only speculate about the long term effects. But its OK Were Scientists and Doctors, We know what is best for you.
Never mind the fact that the medical industry has absolutely no interest in "Curing" anything now. Curing things is bad for business and the goal of medicine now is not to cure anything, it is to create long term treatment and chronic need for medication
So yeah, sorry... Ive given you plenty to chew on and try to work your way through, Now, would you like to calm down and try to rationally work your way through that information and explain to me WHY we should just automatically trust these people and take them at their word?
So I reiterate... when it comes to scientists developing new things to put into our bodies, No I do not trust them. That does not mean that they are inherently wrong. That simply means that it simply cannot be taken at face value and absolutely demands further individual and independent research, something that the largest portion of people who purport science as humanities salvation rarely if ever do.
third'dRyans Solution said:Agreed!DVS BSTrD said:I still refuse to call it a vegetable!
Another food I want made "healthier" is bacon... without it being made out of something other than pigs. I eat bacon every meal I can and it would be appreciated if I could avoid death in the process.