SCOTUS Overturns Ban on Same-Sex Marriage

[Alcaste]

Good job America.

Now you can join the rest of the First World

I still can't quite grasp how this is even an issue, do people really have nothing better to do than concern themselves about which gender other people find attractive?

Oh this ain't all the dumb shit we get to deal with over here:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/25/19140887-texas-abortion-bill-fails-to-pass-after-epic-filibuster
Sen. Wendy Davis managed to keep up the filibuster up until the session expired. Now Pro-lifers know what it feels like to be "late".

I honestly hate the fact that "talking too long about absolutely nothing" is a viable tactic of our government.


I still hate the bill that was trying to be passed, but the only reason it failed wasn't by popular vote, she simply talked until it was too late for a vast majority of politicians to vote.

I would of rather it get voted down due to opinion, not forcing people to be unable to vote.

As can be seen by the *massive cheering crowd* that happened last night, maybe a bunch of old people shouldn't be in charge of things like this, and the people should have more of a voice. The filibuster was a necessary evil.

 

[DTWolfwood]

Mind you this just means the Federal Government has to recognize the marriage. Your individual states can still choose to not allow it.

Tiny steps i guess.

 

[Charli]

Umm as good as this is...why is this on a VIDEO GAME WEBSITE? I mean I get there is a politics/religion forum but that doesn't really mean you can post jack all in the news section. I mean I know news has just become posting what some other person has posted but really there is a reason people go to different websites that have a focus on a subject.

It would be like going to a bakery website and see in their news this article.

*Shrug* There are Gay gamers are there not? And there are offtopic forums for a reason, sometimes gamers like to expand their subjects of discussion from a mutual understanding point of basis. That we are all gamers and this is how regular life topics affect each of us.

Hell I found a GTA discussion in a bakery website forum once so...There!

 

[Vivi22]

The title is a bit misleading as overturning DOMA has not lifted a ban on same sex marriage. All it's done is prevent the federal government from denying marital benefits to gay couples married in places where gay marriage is legal. It's a step in the right direction, but the actual effect it has is a bit overblown in this article.

 

[Elijah Newton]

OT; Good job american justice system.

COMPLETELY off topic tangent; It's something i just noticed looking at the news for this. Does anyone else think SCOTUS looks weird? and saying it out loud, it kinda sound like its a dirty word. Maybe its just to close to scrotum? dunno. i think the abbreviation should be USSC. just me i guess.

It's not just you. Might just be us, but fwiw I agree. Maybe it's just to avoid ambiguity? USSC seems to have a number of existing associations from Utah Seismic Safety Commission to United States Sign Council to United States Sentencing Commission.

 

[karma9308]

I'm happy for those it affects. Hope you guys are on a path to being equals.

But yes, religious and political institutions have so thoroughly indoctrinated us with busybody syndrome that it is important for us to police our neighbours for misconduct, be they commies or homersexuals.

Homersexuals?

...They must be drooling right now

 

[Basement Cat]

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It's the "Butterfly Effect". As the article states: "Striking down DOMA will have a wide-ranging impact, as it affects roughly 1100 federal laws relating to veterans benefits, medical leave and taxes."

Think of it as a primary reference in a science paper covering an experiment the conclusions of which others have based their own research on. When the primary reference's own conclusions are proven to be inaccurate you can't use it as a reference to support your own research anymore...

Oh, and the real nitpick (because I've done that kind of thing) is that the point that you're using the reference for may be itsy-bitsy but nonetheless THE primary support for your own work.

TL/DR: Domino effect. DOMA acts as the foundation for hundreds of other restrictive laws.

The Supreme Court just pulled the rug out of under the feet of those anti-gay laws.

 

[Vivi22]

TL/DR: Domino effect.

Which is why I said it's a step in the right direction. But that doesn't change my point that the headline is factually incorrect.

 

[Smeatza]

A nice step in the right direction, there's still a lot of work to be done though.

Still, I think it warrants this...

Spoiler: America

 

[Something Amyss]

Homersexuals?

...They must be drooling right now

That second one. Being the Simpsons is where I pulled the line from.

I'll show you a "forbidden donut!"

 

[Something Amyss]

Umm as good as this is...why is this on a VIDEO GAME WEBSITE?

First trip to the News Room? I mean, it's not just gay news. There's a lot of stuff that hits the site's news that has little or nothing to do with gaming. The Escapist itself features content with little or nothing to do with gaming. Perhaps you've heard of Escape to the Movies/The Big Picture, or Feed Dump, or No Right Answer, or Movie Defense Force?

Geekend Update?
Reel physics?

Is it reeeeeeeeally that it's not game content you object to? Because that seems a touch ridiculous if you have, you know, visited the site before.

 

[IamLEAM1983]

Good job America.

Now you can join the rest of the First World

I still can't quite grasp how this is even an issue, do people really have nothing better to do than concern themselves about which gender other people find attractive?

Idiots generally have the ridiculous notion that if gay marriage is allowed to pass, then "teh gayness" will infect everyone. Allowing gay marriage SEEMS to mean, for some very conservative folks, that we'll start sodomizing puppies and kittens en masse in the near future. The problem is these people can't tell the difference between a historically recorded custom and a paraphilia.

 

[Rinshan Kaihou]

The interesting thing is, every time I see an argument against same sex marriage its either comparing same sex marriage to marrying a dog/cat/cow whatever, or saying that it's unnatural and against god. Literally those are the two arguments I ever see against it. It's kind of funny in a way.

 

[Xan Krieger]

I'm a bit disappointed by the supreme court's decision but given how close it was I wonder if that just means DOMA needs to be rewritten slightly to be law again.

 

[-Dragmire-]

Umm as good as this is...why is this on a VIDEO GAME WEBSITE? I mean I get there is a politics/religion forum but that doesn't really mean you can post jack all in the news section. I mean I know news has just become posting what some other person has posted but really there is a reason people go to different websites that have a focus on a subject.

It would be like going to a bakery website and see in their news this article.

There are many sides to the Escapist, not all of which include gaming.

 

[theultimateend]

Good job America.

Now you can join the rest of the First World

I still can't quite grasp how this is even an issue, do people really have nothing better to do than concern themselves about which gender other people find attractive?

Just barely...

5-4?

Really?

It's bad when nearly half your "highest court" is apparently brain damaged.

Great. Now permit polygamy so I can stop worrying about whether Archie picks Betty or Veronica, incest so I can stop feeling awkward watching Luke and Leia in those earlier Star Wars movies, and bestiality so I can stop trying to justify Roger and Jessica Rabbit's union as okay because they're just "drawn" that way...

If Polygamy is every legalized the entirety of Anime drama and most popular television drama would suddenly lose their bite.

I'm constantly amused that literally the only trials in shows these days is keeping oneself to one person. "I must make a choice!" they agonize. "Why?" the audience may respond. "Because that's the rule."

Ah. Ok, fairly arbitrary I suppose. Good luck?

 

[1337mokro]

Good job America.

Now you can join the rest of the First World

I still can't quite grasp how this is even an issue, do people really have nothing better to do than concern themselves about which gender other people find attractive?

France just made gay marriage legal this year.

As much crap as America gets not every first world country can be as progressive as the Netherlands, it's just to high a bar

 

[Imp_Emissary]

Good job America.

Now you can join the rest of the First World

I still can't quite grasp how this is even an issue, do people really have nothing better to do than concern themselves about which gender other people find attractive?

Oh this ain't all the dumb shit we get to deal with over here:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/25/19140887-texas-abortion-bill-fails-to-pass-after-epic-filibuster
Sen. Wendy Davis managed to keep up the filibuster up until the session expired. Now Pro-lifers know what it feels like to be "late".

I honestly hate the fact that "talking too long about absolutely nothing" is a viable tactic of our government.


I still hate the bill that was trying to be passed, but the only reason it failed wasn't by popular vote, she simply talked until it was too late for a vast majority of politicians to vote.

I would of rather it get voted down due to opinion, not forcing people to be unable to vote.

Actually to Filibuster a bill now, apparently all you really have to do is say that you wish to filibuster it, and sit back down on you hands.

People who want to talk during them can like what Rand Paul did a bit ago, but you don't have to actually DO anything to keep it going.

Yes, that is as stupid as it sounds, and no, I have no idea how they allowed that to become a thing.

 

[LordLundar]

Actually to Filibuster a bill now, apparently all you really have to do is say that you wish to filibuster it, and sit back down on you hands.

People who want to talk during them can like what Rand Paul did a bit ago, but you don't have to actually DO anything to keep it going.

Yes, that is as stupid as it sounds, and no, I have no idea how they allowed that to become a thing.

Texas Filibuster laws are much more strict as listed earlier on in this thread and was set up that way specifically to prevent filibusters (which would have most likely come from democrats. the GOP doesn't like it when their toys are used against them). It's landmark because in the past no one trying to filibuster has gone the distance.

This should be a wake up call for the GOP. In what has to be on of their home base states (largely due to excessive gerrymandering), they still had to lie and cheat to try and get their way and they still lost. Between that and what happened today they need to realize that they need to change or be insignificant in the future.

The title is a bit misleading as overturning DOMA has not lifted a ban on same sex marriage. All it's done is prevent the federal government from denying marital benefits to gay couples married in places where gay marriage is legal. It's a step in the right direction, but the actual effect it has is a bit overblown in this article.

Not really. A large number of state anti-gay marriage laws (and a number of anti-gay laws in general) practically relied on DOMA as their backbone. Without being able to rely on it anymore those laws lose a lot of their bite and can lead to future turnovers.

 

[Spacefrog]

I know the government need to know what constitutes a marriage to decide who get what benefits, but the wording of the whole debate still kind of weirds me out
What right does any government have to decide who can get married and who can marry
I mean if a church/religion decides that they will not marry a certain group, the state should not have any power to say otherwise or force them to marry those couples.
It's part of the whole separation of church and state, if the church does not get to influence how the state thinks, the state should not have any say in how the church thinks or pronounce a married couple.

And by that notion, when the state decides what couples constitutes a marriage they should ignore any notion coming from any religion.
The state should NEVER discriminate because of sexual preference and I am quite appalled by the fact that 4/9 where for a ban