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If you don't read these in Yahtzee's voice, you're not getting the full experience.

As a bonus I like to play the Zero Punctuation theme in my head after the last word.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
But doesn't this mean Yahtzee, that you're an idiot as well? (Given that you've already condemned your own game making [which I rather liked, although that saltbag was a bit of a cop-out])

As such, ironically, wouldn't Scribblenauts be perfect for you, if you could blend LBP's level's design and Scribblenaut's creativity. Almost like Gamemaker 7 and a word processor blended in.

Less like a game, more like a tool.
That's when you break out 3ds Max or a similar program and start making a different game.
 

Teh_Doomage

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Very very very good article.

And the final comment about ODST....awesome.

I think creativity is this whole casual trend really.
 

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Disclaimer: I was unable to read the entire article. My opinion is based on the last few ZP's and EP's as well as the first few paragraphs of the current one.

Now then, to business. As I have been saying more and more often of late, Yahtzee is using the escapist as a vent for his bitterness. He vents about idiocy, going as far as mocking his own demographic, does a poor job of what he is supposed to be doing, and even worse, it is getting worse by the week.

I used to love ZP, it was full of wit and the occasional uncalled for jokes here and there. It was fun, informative, useful, and was great. Now ever since around the latest E3 edition of ZP, the quality of the videos has plummeted. There is now nearly no real wit in the reviews, absolutely no useful advice on whether to purchase a game or its qualities/faults, and just a general sense of negativity and pessimism. And now with EP, these faults have skyrocketed. Yahtzee now has been using this article to vent at his loss of ability to have fun with games, to make even more idiotic unorigional penis jokes, and conveys just a general feeling of hate towards developers.

In that regard, I would like to see Yahtzee create a game like Red Faction or Wolfenstien, or anything even close to them. Now you will be saying "but wait a second, he doesn't have that kind of money or manpower!" And to that I respond, "At one point, neither did they." They went out, made damn good games that got attention and respect, and with it, a bigger budget. They worked their way up, to be able to hire as many as they do and use such large budgets. Yahtzee has made nothing in this regard, sure he has made games, however, none have ever caught any publishers' attention, or even other developers' attention. Possibly its time for Yahtzee to do so, and actually work on something that he puts his heart into, and makes some money to invest in another slightly larger project. Maybe its time for him to realise that he needs to understand how a large scale game project actually runs and what they do to keep afloat. Maybe for once he can actually be empathetic with the developers on why their game came out the way it did, and maybe spend some time pointing out what came right, like he used to.

I can go on and on, however anything past this point would only be restating the obvious and flaming. I will end on the same note I always do, and that is: I used to hit refresh every minute of Wednesday to see the new ZP, now I cringe and hope that maybe this one will be like the old ones. I now outright shudder when I see EP, thinking of what poor sop he is trolling this time. Bring back the old ZP, lose the EP, and get your mind out of the sewer. The internet doesn't care about your problems or opinions on humanity. We come to you for witty reviews and a few good laughs. Until then, you will keep losing more and more people to your trolling, and eventually you will be left with nothing but those that you despise most: fanboys and idiots.

Bring back the old ZP
 

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If people want to play real sandbox games, with a variety of character choices that allow them to reflect on a character that they wish to be with no completely linear storyline-

tell them to get a fucking pen, paper, and go play some DND. And if they want no linear story at all, well they can kick the DM out of the game, and collect acorns and feed them to squirrels.

P&P games are a hell of alot of fun, because they allow you to do anything. Assuming it isn't some fucked up fetish crap that one of your friends secretly gets off to.
 

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PodX140 said:
Disclaimer: I was unable to read the entire article. My opinion is based on the last few ZP's and EP's as well as the first few paragraphs of the current one.

Now then, to business. As I have been saying more and more often of late, Yahtzee is using the escapist as a vent for his bitterness. He vents about idiocy, going as far as mocking his own demographic, does a poor job of what he is supposed to be doing, and even worse, it is getting worse by the week.

I used to love ZP, it was full of wit and the occasional uncalled for jokes here and there. It was fun, informative, useful, and was great. Now ever since around the latest E3 edition of ZP, the quality of the videos has plummeted. There is now nearly no real wit in the reviews, absolutely no useful advice on whether to purchase a game or its qualities/faults, and just a general sense of negativity and pessimism. And now with EP, these faults have skyrocketed. Yahtzee now has been using this article to vent at his loss of ability to have fun with games, to make even more idiotic unorigional penis jokes, and conveys just a general feeling of hate towards developers.

In that regard, I would like to see Yahtzee create a game like Red Faction or Wolfenstien, or anything even close to them. Now you will be saying "but wait a second, he doesn't have that kind of money or manpower!" And to that I respond, "At one point, neither did they." They went out, made damn good games that got attention and respect, and with it, a bigger budget. They worked their way up, to be able to hire as many as they do and use such large budgets. Yahtzee has made nothing in this regard, sure he has made games, however, none have ever caught any publishers' attention, or even other developers' attention. Possibly its time for Yahtzee to do so, and actually work on something that he puts his heart into, and makes some money to invest in another slightly larger project. Maybe its time for him to realise that he needs to understand how a large scale game project actually runs and what they do to keep afloat. Maybe for once he can actually be empathetic with the developers on why their game came out the way it did, and maybe spend some time pointing out what came right, like he used to.

I can go on and on, however anything past this point would only be restating the obvious and flaming. I will end on the same note I always do, and that is: I used to hit refresh every minute of Wednesday to see the new ZP, now I cringe and hope that maybe this one will be like the old ones. I now outright shudder when I see EP, thinking of what poor sop he is trolling this time. Bring back the old ZP, lose the EP, and get your mind out of the sewer. The internet doesn't care about your problems or opinions on humanity. We come to you for witty reviews and a few good laughs. Until then, you will keep losing more and more people to your trolling, and eventually you will be left with nothing but those that you despise most: fanboys and idiots.

Bring back the old ZP

maybe he has "evolved"? maybe into a direction you don´t like but thats how things work.
look at starwars, Indy or any famous rock band-sooner or later most of the "good stuff" we all loved is lost and our former heroes become parodies of themselves :(
 

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I am fairly amazed at this.

Personally my theory is people who take offence to being called an 'idiot' by someone they've never met are really just upset because of a niggling doubt that there might be some truth in it, even if there isn't, and subsequently post long winded replies to cover up such things. I know I've done it. But that's not really where the amazement comes from, forums are for discussion if nothing else and you can't have a discussion if everybody feels the same way about something.

Why am I amazed? Because he's already done this before! *looks it up* The 2nd Annual E3 Hype Massacre is the video's title. He calls everybody in the world shit, even displaying the 'equation' PEOPLE = SHIT. And no one has mentioned it yet! It's almost totally recycled for the Scribblenaughts Extra Punctuation, Though he does take time to pointedly call himself shit in video.

Now I think about it, the fact that you didn't get your knickers in a twist over being called worthless on all levels instead of just having your IQ questioned brings further weight to the my first paragraph...or it just points out you can't really tell the way someone's saying things when it's written without 'says sarcastically' or what not.

MeX

PS - As I'm new here, let me clarify my views on Yahtzee to avoid being bashed as a fanboy. I enjoy his reviews very much even though they do waver in quality a fair amount and I fairly often disagree with him - I have no issue with JRPGs, Retro games or Fighting Games in fact I enjoy all three a great deal. I enjoyed my time with Soul Calibur 4 and the original Siren, as well as the bosses in Arkham Asylum (which kind of rhymes) but I enjoy his reviewing style and appreciate people can differ in opinions and still be fecking funny (Richard Pryor comes to mind as an example) and his use of British colloquialisms which I find there to be a great deficit of on the 'net. I still think he could do with a slap ?round the back of the head from time to time.
 

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Edzor said:
Disaster Button said:
Snowalker said:
But wait, Dear Yathzee, by making these videos and articles, does that not make you an idiot too? Your assuming that people are interested in your thoughts aswell, just like the idiots you mentioned.
He could always counter you with "I do it for the money."
So, that would mean that Yahtzee is being an idiot for the money?

Kind of like how a whore is a whore for the money, right?

But let's face it, we all love whores, and Yahtzee, just not in the same way XD
Well, someone did beat you to all 3 points but you're still right. Something makes me tihnk Yahtzee would be proud to be called a whore though.
 

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dwitefry said:
I am fairly amazed at this.

Personally my theory is people who take offence to being called an 'idiot' by someone they've never met are really just upset because of a niggling doubt that there might be some truth in it, even if there isn't, and subsequently post long winded replies to cover up such things. I know I've done it. But that's not really where the amazement comes from, forums are for discussion if nothing else and you can't have a discussion if everybody feels the same way about something.

Why am I amazed? Because he's already done this before! *looks it up* The 2nd Annual E3 Hype Massacre is the video's title. He calls everybody in the world shit, even displaying the 'equation' PEOPLE = SHIT. And no one has mentioned it yet! It's almost totally recycled for the Scribblenaughts Extra Punctuation, Though he does take time to pointedly call himself shit in video.
it's because that part of that video seemed totally hyperbolic-- on the surface of it you can't call people much worse, and also what you said, he included himself, he didn't this time-- but really for my thoughts on it you can just read my last post in this thread
 

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Dark Templar said:
Deshara said:
Yahtzee Croshaw said:
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ha. Ha.

No.
That's exactly what I said when I read what the changes were in ODST, or rather, the lack of changes between Halo 3 and ODST.
Did you actually play it?

Allot changed. I hated halo 3 but ODST is fun.
I'm surprised Yathzee hasn't mentioned ODST as it brings back the idea of health bars, something he has asked for in a number of videos.
 

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Has Yahtzee done anything since, I dunno, ZP video 6 that has not had someone saying "This is getting old, you used to be awesome, now you suck, blah blah blah."? Just cause, you know, those are really important opinions that need to be shared.
 

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All I can say is "Choose Your Own Adventure" book series would be an apt example of the scribblenauts/sandbox game style.

When you read your first one, they are limited fun, but fun.

By about the third, they cease to be fun because the character no longer has a consistent definition. I wonder if this is what is happening here.
 

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PodX140 said:
Disclaimer: I was unable to read the entire article. My opinion is based on the last few ZP's and EP's as well as the first few paragraphs of the current one.

Now then, to business. As I have been saying more and more often of late, Yahtzee is using the escapist as a vent for his bitterness. He vents about idiocy, going as far as mocking his own demographic, does a poor job of what he is supposed to be doing, and even worse, it is getting worse by the week.

I used to love ZP, it was full of wit and the occasional uncalled for jokes here and there. It was fun, informative, useful, and was great. Now ever since around the latest E3 edition of ZP, the quality of the videos has plummeted. There is now nearly no real wit in the reviews, absolutely no useful advice on whether to purchase a game or its qualities/faults, and just a general sense of negativity and pessimism. And now with EP, these faults have skyrocketed. Yahtzee now has been using this article to vent at his loss of ability to have fun with games, to make even more idiotic unorigional penis jokes, and conveys just a general feeling of hate towards developers.

In that regard, I would like to see Yahtzee create a game like Red Faction or Wolfenstien, or anything even close to them. Now you will be saying "but wait a second, he doesn't have that kind of money or manpower!" And to that I respond, "At one point, neither did they." They went out, made damn good games that got attention and respect, and with it, a bigger budget. They worked their way up, to be able to hire as many as they do and use such large budgets. Yahtzee has made nothing in this regard, sure he has made games, however, none have ever caught any publishers' attention, or even other developers' attention. Possibly its time for Yahtzee to do so, and actually work on something that he puts his heart into, and makes some money to invest in another slightly larger project. Maybe its time for him to realise that he needs to understand how a large scale game project actually runs and what they do to keep afloat. Maybe for once he can actually be empathetic with the developers on why their game came out the way it did, and maybe spend some time pointing out what came right, like he used to.

I can go on and on, however anything past this point would only be restating the obvious and flaming. I will end on the same note I always do, and that is: I used to hit refresh every minute of Wednesday to see the new ZP, now I cringe and hope that maybe this one will be like the old ones. I now outright shudder when I see EP, thinking of what poor sop he is trolling this time. Bring back the old ZP, lose the EP, and get your mind out of the sewer. The internet doesn't care about your problems or opinions on humanity. We come to you for witty reviews and a few good laughs. Until then, you will keep losing more and more people to your trolling, and eventually you will be left with nothing but those that you despise most: fanboys and idiots.

Bring back the old ZP
TL:DR

going to look at pictures of cats
 

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Yahtzee Croshaw said:
...non-linear stories don't and will never exist no matter what anyone tells you...
Wrong.

It is indeed theoretically possible and desirable to have emergent contextual procedurally-generated narratives that are thematically coherent and are goal-directed towards a cathartic closure that elucidates the emotional journey and character growth undertaken by your avatar.

Simple, really...

;-)
 

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General Vagueness said:
it's because that part of that video seemed totally hyperbolic-- on the surface of it you can't call people much worse, and also what you said, he included himself, he didn't this time-- but really for my thoughts on it you can just read my last post in this thread
dwitefry said:
or it just points out you can't really tell the way someone's saying things when it's written without 'says sarcastically' or what not.
See I already acknolwedged that :) cool them heels.

MeX
 

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Mantonio said:
Well, someone's very bitter today, aren't they?

"Yes, you see, I'm saying you're an idiot, too. I felt I should make that clearer because you're an idiot."

At least I don't own a stupid hat.
Feel free to burn yahzee all you want, but if you ever make fun of a Trilby again I will hunt you down, remove your scalp, and hot glue one to your skull

*pant pant* don't make fun of Trilbies!
 

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PodX140 said:
Disclaimer: I was unable to read the entire article. My opinion is based on the last few ZP's and EP's as well as the first few paragraphs of the current one.

Now then, to business. As I have been saying more and more often of late, Yahtzee is using the escapist as a vent for his bitterness. He vents about idiocy, going as far as mocking his own demographic, does a poor job of what he is supposed to be doing, and even worse, it is getting worse by the week.

I used to love ZP, it was full of wit and the occasional uncalled for jokes here and there. It was fun, informative, useful, and was great. Now ever since around the latest E3 edition of ZP, the quality of the videos has plummeted. There is now nearly no real wit in the reviews, absolutely no useful advice on whether to purchase a game or its qualities/faults, and just a general sense of negativity and pessimism. And now with EP, these faults have skyrocketed. Yahtzee now has been using this article to vent at his loss of ability to have fun with games, to make even more idiotic unorigional penis jokes, and conveys just a general feeling of hate towards developers.

In that regard, I would like to see Yahtzee create a game like Red Faction or Wolfenstien, or anything even close to them. Now you will be saying "but wait a second, he doesn't have that kind of money or manpower!" And to that I respond, "At one point, neither did they." They went out, made damn good games that got attention and respect, and with it, a bigger budget. They worked their way up, to be able to hire as many as they do and use such large budgets. Yahtzee has made nothing in this regard, sure he has made games, however, none have ever caught any publishers' attention, or even other developers' attention. Possibly its time for Yahtzee to do so, and actually work on something that he puts his heart into, and makes some money to invest in another slightly larger project. Maybe its time for him to realise that he needs to understand how a large scale game project actually runs and what they do to keep afloat. Maybe for once he can actually be empathetic with the developers on why their game came out the way it did, and maybe spend some time pointing out what came right, like he used to.

I can go on and on, however anything past this point would only be restating the obvious and flaming. I will end on the same note I always do, and that is: I used to hit refresh every minute of Wednesday to see the new ZP, now I cringe and hope that maybe this one will be like the old ones. I now outright shudder when I see EP, thinking of what poor sop he is trolling this time. Bring back the old ZP, lose the EP, and get your mind out of the sewer. The internet doesn't care about your problems or opinions on humanity. We come to you for witty reviews and a few good laughs. Until then, you will keep losing more and more people to your trolling, and eventually you will be left with nothing but those that you despise most: fanboys and idiots.

Bring back the old ZP
Allow me to translate for those who TL;DR'd:

Yahtzee made fun of a game I liked/said something that struck a little too close to home. He is now bad. The End.

"Remember when /b was good?" "/b was never good".
 

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People, you're defending yourselves against a man who reviews games, has a gimmick that revolves around (as he mentions in his "Wet" review) confusing swearing with wit and called you the equivalent of a 4 year olds worst swear word.

I agree with him, people are idiots. A lot of people think I'm an idiot. Commenting in this thread to defend yourself makes you an idiot. Commenting in this thread to point out that people are being idiots by defending themselves for being called idiots instead of just letting it drop makes me an idiot.

The furor generated by someone with slightly more e-fame than forum trolls insulting you in a completely indirect fashion really does make me laugh though. Mr Croshaw is certainly the master of trolling. And I'll keep reading and watching, because of that and many other things!