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Skutch

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Amnestic said:
it's no different than something like a suicide prevention hotline or a support group for people trying to shake their addictions to narcotics
Did you just honestly equate gaming 'addiction' to drug abuse?

No, I equated an issue being addressed from a mental health & addiction standpoint to an example of a service for those possibly suffering from a mental health problem and another for those suffering an addiction problem. The actual nature of the addiction in the example is irrelevant. Would gambling addiction offend your tender sensibilities less? Or how about porn? There are support groups for porn addicts too, ya know.
 

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Pro tip: You'd be addicted to something else if it wasn't WoW. Just be glad it's not hard drugs or alcohol.

My RL job is, in part, to look out for sexual predators in an on-line environment. I'm now wondering how one would tell the difference between a psychiatrist probing for details of a child's life and a run of the mill paedophile? :)
A psychiatrist won't ask what the child is wearing.
Neither would the paedo. :)

It's all seemingly harmless getting to know them, getting them to trust you questions, they save the truly gross questions till they have a private means of communication and are sure the kid isn't going to run straight to his parents.

So targeting the lonely, private, kids who don't like to share things....forgotten whether I'm talking about the predators or doctors now.

To be fair to Skutch, you did say an addictive personality is the issue. So it's not much of a leap to say an addiction to WoW could be treated the same way as a drug addiction.
 

etherlance

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well I could care less what one women thinks about gaming and gamers.

personally if the world smacks down restrictions and what have you against young people playing games, they can go right ahead.

I say this because I'm 20 years old and I'm now out of their reach forever because I'm classed as an adult even if i have the mind set of a 2 year old chipmunk with a split personality disorder.
other people agree with me too, such as:
Me, Myself and I
 

quiet_samurai

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I would totally just put "LOL" as my rsponse to this, but we are not allowed, so I won't.

This lady obviously has never played or done any research about this game, and most like ly only bases her jusgements off of what she see in the media or online support groups. There is nothing wrong with trying to help addiction, but at least know what the fuck you are talking abut befor you set out on a crusade. And i don't believe in an addiction gene or that some people are more sustible to addiction because of some psychical or mental handicap. These people just lack discipline and have no idea of the term moderation.
 

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Amnestic said:
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Casual Shinji said:
WoW addiction IS a problem.
No it's not. Having an addictive personality is a problem. WoW doesn't factor into that at all. Addiction is a problem is what you should say.

Insanum said:
WoW addiction is a serious problem for some people.
See above.

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such as wizards, dwarves, and warriors,
1) Mages, not Wizards.
2) 'Dwarf' isn't a class.

If you're going to write an article, do your research first. Thanks.

all battling it out in an epic landscape to hunt for gold.
Factually incorrect. See above. As a Warcraft player myself I am of course biased, but my god people if you don't even do basic research on the game don't write an article about it. It just makes you look stupid.

I fully support parents in regulating their children's time on the Internet
Well Blizzard are helping you out because you can put Parental Controls on a WoW account to only let it be played for a certain amount of time/during a certain time period.

I also encourage schools to become more aggressive in educating children about time management and why monitoring time spent on video games is healthy.
Can we include 'in front of the TV'? Because that seems to be just as bad. I've heard of people who go home and spend 6 hours sat in front of the TV before eating dinner, watch some more TV and then go to bed.

Explain how that's an any better than a video game, please.

If you're 'addicted' to WoW, you have an addictive personality. That's an underlying problem not related to World of Warcraft at all.

Please stop trying to ruin my game experience just because you're incapable of growing a pair of testicles and facing reality with two feet on the ground rather than two eyes glued to your screen.

Pro tip: You'd be addicted to something else if it wasn't WoW. Just be glad it's not hard drugs or alcohol.

I'd also like to point out that a) Blizzard have made WoW so casual friendly over the years it's frankly amusing from where I'm sat. It's actually difficult to be addicted to WoW. It really is. There's not enough to do anymore and b) With eleven million active accounts worldwide, it's not surprising they get more reports like this. Larger numbers=more reports.

Duh?

My RL job is, in part, to look out for sexual predators in an on-line environment. I'm now wondering how one would tell the difference between a psychiatrist probing for details of a child's life and a run of the mill paedophile? :)
A psychiatrist won't ask what the child is wearing.

am I the only one who found this article perfectly sensible, tame, and unoffensive?
There's nothing sensible about encouraging poor/sensationalist journalism.[/spoiler]
Ok, addiction is a strong word. The question is what defines an addiction. Some players become hooked, Always thinking about where too go next, and thinking about the game when theyre not at the PC. If thousands of people play the game and become like this (which is reasonable considering 11,000,000 people play) it may be a small amount, But they're still addicted.

Personally all of my friends that play this game do become addicted. They havent got 'addictive personalities' As you put it.

Im just saying (after playing it myself) that its something too bear in mind, In moderation.
 

Amnestic

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Skutch said:
Would gambling addiction offend your tender sensibilities less? Or how about porn? There are support groups for porn addicts too, ya know.
Wow. Tender sensibilities.

That's...wow. Yeah.

Anyway, gambling=mental. Porn=mental. Drugs=chemical. I do hope this isn't a revelation to you.

To be fair to Skutch, you did say an addictive personality is the issue. So it's not much of a leap to say an addiction to WoW could be treated the same way as a drug addiction.
Most drugs (though admittedly not all) have a chemical component as well as a mental one, as I stated above. WoW 'addiction' - I cannot stress how loathe I am to use that term - would be solely mental, which was why I objected.

So targeting the lonely, private, kids who don't like to share things....forgotten whether I'm talking about the predators or doctors now.
Yeah, I can see how this could cause problems. Blizzard do monitor logs so if something like this was brought to their attention (which is easy enough to do), the wrong impression could be taken.

They tend to take threats to their customers very seriously. If a psychiatrist gets reported as a possible paedophile, he might find his local police unit on his doorstep. It wouldn't be the first time Blizzard have contacted the authorities to keep their users safe.

Ok, addiction is a strong word. The question is what defines an addiction. Some players become hooked, Always thinking about where too go next, and thinking about the game when theyre not at the PC. If thousands of people play the game and become like this (which is reasonable considering 11,000,000 people play) it may be a small amount, But they're still addicted.
Are they? You yourself stated that 'the question is what defines addiction'. Is it playing one hour a day? Three? Five?

When do your grains of sand become a heap?

Personally all of my friends that play this game do become addicted.
See above. Define addiction for me.

Im just saying (after playing it myself) that its something too bear in mind, In moderation.
Everything in moderation, even World of Warcraft is a rough paraphrasing of one of the tips you get during a loading screen.
 

Haydyn

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She's entitled too her opinion.
Cop-out. She's stereotyping gamers as a whole. No one is entitled to be prejudice.

This is just another case of a parent being too lazy to be a parent, so they have to get everyone else involved to get her kids to stop playing WoW. A WoW-A, so now we are being treated like alcoholics because we play a video game. And in the game itself, that's like having an AA meeting down at your favorite bar.

Hopefully WoW will be taken down eventually. All it seems to do to me is make me angry, even after I stopped playing.
 

Skutch

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Amnestic said:
Skutch said:
Would gambling addiction offend your tender sensibilities less? Or how about porn? There are support groups for porn addicts too, ya know.
Wow. Tender sensibilities.

That's...wow. Yeah.

Anyway, gambling=mental. Porn=mental. Drugs=chemical. I do hope this isn't a revelation to you.
Yeah, except that "addiction" as it is used in the article, and as it is commonly used, makes no distinction between chemical and psychological dependency. So an action undertaken compulsively without regard for potential consequences, such as flunking out of school because you're too busy playing WoW, constitutes an addiction.
 

Skutch

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ad⋅dic⋅tion
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the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.
 

Amnestic

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Skutch said:
ad⋅dic⋅tion
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the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.
In 2001, the American Medical Association rejected video game addiction as a legitimate mental disorder 2012.
Also, use the edit function in future. Double posts=Bad. Edit post=Good!

I'm willing to stick with the actually medically trained professionals on this rather than a dictionary definition.
 

Dogstile

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you're overreacting

the columnist bashed the psychiatrists more than they bashed wow :p
 

etherlance

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I actually played the game for about 1-2 hours and got bored with it then got rid of it and cancelled my subsciption because i thought the game was lame.

that said it was just my opinion, but if a game has 11 million people on it, it must be doing something right..

maybe thats what these people are afraid of, a world ruled over by WOW.
 

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Again, I wonder.

WHERE ARE THE PARENTS?!

If there are so many children spending far too much time playing World of Warcraft, why isn't anyone trying to reach out to the PARENTS of these children? WoW has parental controls to limit the amount of time a player can spend on the game. (Of course, that requires the parent to learn about the game, or do investigation more stringent than looking at the box to make sure it doesn't have tits on the cover.) But even if it didn't, there's always the original parental controls: Taking the computer away from the child and making him/her go do something else. That's too much work, though, especially for parents who use the computer as a babysitter while they go watch reality TV for hours on end.

Parents are THE gatekeepers when it comes to childrens' behavior. If the parents will not control their children, there is little the rest of us can do.

If I were to write a letter to this woman, it would proceed as such.

"Dear Sharma Howard:

I would suggest that, if you are having so much difficulty making your children spend less time playing World of Warcraft, then the fault lies not with the game, but with your own lack of parenting skills."
 

Skutch

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Amnestic said:
Skutch said:
ad⋅dic⋅tion
?noun
the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.
In 2001, the American Medical Association rejected video game addiction as a legitimate mental disorder 2012.
Also, use the edit function in future. Double posts=Bad. Edit post=Good!

I'm willing to stick with the actually medically trained professionals on this rather than a dictionary definition.

2007 - "Studies have been conducted at Stanford University School of Medicine related to video game play. Researchers found evidence that video games do have addictive characteristics. An MRI study found that the part of the brain that generates rewarding feelings is more activated in men than women during video-game play."

Hey look, medically trained professionals. And it's more recent.
 

avelmen1889

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Bored Tomatoe said:
I care what some uninformed Mom thinks because....


My thoughts exactly im just so mad she did this just to pretty much flip off people with this being her final column