Shenmue 3 gamescom gameplay trailer

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Dear God, that dialogue...
 

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Hawki said:
Dear God, that dialogue...
I take it you're not into Dreamcast era voice acting?

Though, aside from the graphical upgrades, I'm getting quite a few other "early 2000's game"vibes from this. Not sure whether that's intentional or not, i.e. Shenmue 3 is a direct continuation of the franchise in more ways than just narratively.
 

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Chimpzy said:
Hawki said:
Dear God, that dialogue...
I take it you're not into Dreamcast era voice acting?
I played the Dreamcast back in the day, I don't remember dialogue being that bad.

You can argue that it's due to nostalgia/lack of sophistication, and fair enough, but it's the year 2019. I think you can make a sequel to games from that era without hanging onto 'heavier baggage,' so to speak.
 

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hello fellow, oh screw introductions! Here's the listicle;
1. The probability of the developer following the formula of the old games down to every tee (tea? no, tee. Or T?) is incredibly high, given that funding was achieved through cosy blind nostalgia. That. Formula. Has. Aged. Badly.

2. Mr Ryu Protagonist is the absolute epitome of dull stock videogame protagonist where writers think that making them mind-numbingly stoic is a pretty handy excuse for not having to write any actual character. People seem to fall for it too, but not me! Assholes. Project onto him at your own peril. If there were any levity made of it, like Yakuza, it wouldn't be so soporific. But this is Shenmue, sooo...

3. No humour, no levity to juxtapose mister dry biscuit's endless cold blank stare. If there was any humour intended, I hadn't noticed while engaging in some casual self-harm.

4. Where the fuck is the magic shown at the end of the second game? Is that going to factor into anything whatsoever? Like story, gameplay, fighting or anything? I'm not saying I expect to be able to summon ghost armies of cat spirits, but, well...what the hell else was the magic there for?? A sparkly party trick?

5. There had better be subs and original language options to mitigate the god-awful dialogue acting. Sorry, that wasn't technically a reason, just a thought I had halfway through typing this pointless crap.

6. QTEs.

7. Yakuza exists now, in many forms.

8. Nostalgia bait has been proven by leading scientists to lead to early onset dementia and probably cancer too.

9. If point 1 is true, anyone who wasn't there for the original is going to have a bad time. Don't recommend this to the later generations if you don't want them hating you forever. Tell your kids how amazing this game is and prepare to lose their trust for good. If there is any there to begin with of course.

10. The story was bad. Ok, I was there as a Dreamcast owner, who knew nothing of good stories told well, so predictably it seemed alright to that pitifully uncultured mind at the time, after the shock of being able to open all the drawers eventually wore off. Years have not been kind to the narrative, so as a sort of Shenmue ex-fan, the original excitement of where it was leading has dissipated to fine ethereal mist as reality slowly took hold.

I'm not telling you what to buy though, just warning to temper the hype. And to stop enjoying things. Stop. Just stop it! Agh! Why is everyone so happy??

I mean...it's probably alright. Go ahead. Don't mind me, rambling all over your cereal with a level of respect for personal boundaries shared only by parasitic tapeworm. It'll be fiiiine! Anyway, even it it's not successful, it's still a success, right? Win win for everyone!
 

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Yakuza is waaay too edgy compare to shenmue. didnot liked yakuza and i tried it on PC.

shenmue is ambitious game where shop open and close at time, combat like pure martial arts instead of batman one button. you learn the move in order to implement it.
 

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Hawki said:
Chimpzy said:
Hawki said:
Dear God, that dialogue...
I take it you're not into Dreamcast era voice acting?
I played the Dreamcast back in the day, I don't remember dialogue being that bad.

You can argue that it's due to nostalgia/lack of sophistication, and fair enough, but it's the year 2019. I think you can make a sequel to games from that era without hanging onto 'heavier baggage,' so to speak.
No, it does sound like the dialogue from the first two games. Which is not a good thing.

Honestly, I never felt like the Shenmue series needed a sequel. A lot of its ideas found their way into the DNA of games that have been made since, there's no doubt about it, there is some Shenmue in Zelda Majoras Mask with its quests based around characters daily schedules, in the Yakuza series with their focus on mini games and side activities, even in Red Dead Redemption 2 with its weird little pieces of random interactivity. But by themselves Yakuza 1 and 2 don't really hold up as games anymore and I'm not sure if you can modernize the formula in a way that makes it feel both fresh and actually engaging.
 

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Wow that looks ganky as fuck. If you told me that was a mod from like...2006 I'd fully believe you. Also whats the Yahtzee quote, 'Deliberately boring is still boring.'?
 

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Shenmue 1 and 2 were quite possibly my two favourite Fully Reactive Eyes Entertainment[sup]TM[/sup] games, so I'll be sure to check this one out.

To the naysayers: yes, it's a direct sequel to an almost 20 year old game. Similar to most remasters and remakes, it's likely to only really appeal to nostalgic fans of the original (and not even all of them) - c'est la vie. Go back to unboxing Fortnite skins or something, you darn Zoomers.
 

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Batou667 said:
Go back to unboxing Fortnite skins or something, you darn Zoomers.
Zoomers? Is that some name for Gen Z?

Got to remember that - all the "Zoomers" I'm around (or Gen Alpha I guess) are playing Shellshockers these days.
 

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Hawki said:
Dear God, that dialogue...
This was my biggest concern about the game and I'm glad to see they are going to be living up to the Shenmue standards! Ren's voice actor is different though :/
 

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Neurotic Void Melody said:
hello fellow, oh screw introductions! Here's the listicle;
1. The probability of the developer following the formula of the old games down to every tee (tea? no, tee. Or T?) is incredibly high, given that funding was achieved through cosy blind nostalgia. That. Formula. Has. Aged. Badly.

2. Mr Ryu Protagonist is the absolute epitome of dull stock videogame protagonist where writers think that making them mind-numbingly stoic is a pretty handy excuse for not having to write any actual character. People seem to fall for it too, but not me! Assholes. Project onto him at your own peril. If there were any levity made of it, like Yakuza, it wouldn't be so soporific. But this is Shenmue, sooo...

3. No humour, no levity to juxtapose mister dry biscuit's endless cold blank stare. If there was any humour intended, I hadn't noticed while engaging in some casual self-harm.

4. Where the fuck is the magic shown at the end of the second game? Is that going to factor into anything whatsoever? Like story, gameplay, fighting or anything? I'm not saying I expect to be able to summon ghost armies of cat spirits, but, well...what the hell else was the magic there for?? A sparkly party trick?

5. There had better be subs and original language options to mitigate the god-awful dialogue acting. Sorry, that wasn't technically a reason, just a thought I had halfway through typing this pointless crap.

6. QTEs.

7. Yakuza exists now, in many forms.

8. Nostalgia bait has been proven by leading scientists to lead to early onset dementia and probably cancer too.

9. If point 1 is true, anyone who wasn't there for the original is going to have a bad time. Don't recommend this to the later generations if you don't want them hating you forever. Tell your kids how amazing this game is and prepare to lose their trust for good. If there is any there to begin with of course.

10. The story was bad. Ok, I was there as a Dreamcast owner, who knew nothing of good stories told well, so predictably it seemed alright to that pitifully uncultured mind at the time, after the shock of being able to open all the drawers eventually wore off. Years have not been kind to the narrative, so as a sort of Shenmue ex-fan, the original excitement of where it was leading has dissipated to fine ethereal mist as reality slowly took hold.

I'm not telling you what to buy though, just warning to temper the hype. And to stop enjoying things. Stop. Just stop it! Agh! Why is everyone so happy??

I mean...it's probably alright. Go ahead. Don't mind me, rambling all over your cereal with a level of respect for personal boundaries shared only by parasitic tapeworm. It'll be fiiiine! Anyway, even it it's not successful, it's still a success, right? Win win for everyone!
Shenmue is terrible, but that's what makes it so good. It's like Garzey's Wing. My biggest worry is that the game will be too good and end up being simply mediocre instead of hilariously bad.
 

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I don't see the appeal. Despite having a PS2 as I was growing up, somehow I never got the chance to play it. But I did try Shenmue recently when they released the old ones on the PC and they are absolutely terrible. I guess I understand why old fans who were kids back in the PS2 days would like it. Nostalgia can be a powerful thing. But without that, it's just a terrible, terrible gaming experience. Horrific game design all around.
 

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B-Cell said:
Yakuza is waaay too edgy compare to shenmue. didnot liked yakuza and i tried it on PC.

shenmue is ambitious game where shop open and close at time, combat like pure martial arts instead of batman one button. you learn the move in order to implement it.
Yakuza is "edgy?"

I don't think you understand the meaning of that word.
 

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Batou667 said:
Adam Jensen said:
Despite having a PS2 as I was growing up, somehow I never got the chance to play it.
I can think of at least one explanation...
Oh, right. I just assumed because that Sony exec plugged Shenmue III a few years back. I didn't know that it wasn't available for the PS2 :)