I don't think it should go ahead, Sherlock was one of the few good programmes on television recently, and in my opinion Benedict Cumberbatch is better than Robert Downey Jr, it should not be spoiled by some Americanised rubbish made to make money.
Sherlock Creators Not Pleased About CBS's New Show
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Dwarfman said:
Back here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/7.339905.13761614Palademon said:
It's...possibly worse than you might think.
ZeroMachine said:
I'll say it for you in a proper thick Welsh accent: "BOH-LUCKS!!"
But yeah, on topic; this is probably going to be really bad. Not so much that Americans can't make a clever thriller series (they obviously can), but because this particular story won't translate well to a US setting.
It's going to be a modern US, in which case it's basically going to be House with epaulettes, or it's going to be set in the past, in which case he'll be a really smart cowboy. I don't meant to disparage either of those settings (I like both House and Westerns), but I can't see it working for Sherlock Holmes.
As long as it's not Downey Jr. poisoning the characterization of Holmes...I'll be fine. And by the way, the real "Sherlock Creator" is dead. That's the same as claiming King Arthur or any other fictional character just because you so happen to be making movies about them.
That...wasn't too bad.The_root_of_all_evil said:
At least it's not the American Top Gear, which manages to be basically the same and yet not funny at all...except this massively abuses the laugh track, and I'm a person who can deal with the Big Bang Theory's supposed overuse of it.
They changed characters a bit. The thing I'm most confused about was why they brought Kryton back for the remake...they might as well have just SHOWN the original series.
TBH I think we all know how this will turn out..
1) Its set in America, probalby a big city like NY or Washington so the intro is going to be a big flyby of all the landmarks of the city with some uncensored glory added needlessly..
2) The called the title Elementary.. you find me one original Sherlock Holmes case written by Doyle where Holmes actually says the bloody word.. I see more misconceptions coming up..
3) Its set in the USA, sorry you're a great country and that but, he's a distinctly English character who drinks tea, plays the violin, smokes a pipe, etc..
I get the feeling this new one will be a highstrung coffee adict who wears a fitted business suit and tie, his friend is a retired medic from the 1st Marine Corps and his new instrument is a drum set in his suburban garage..
Although as I don't get CBS or whatever channels its on cus I live over the pond I'm quite happy for you to have this (probably) terrible tv show..
1) Its set in America, probalby a big city like NY or Washington so the intro is going to be a big flyby of all the landmarks of the city with some uncensored glory added needlessly..
2) The called the title Elementary.. you find me one original Sherlock Holmes case written by Doyle where Holmes actually says the bloody word.. I see more misconceptions coming up..
3) Its set in the USA, sorry you're a great country and that but, he's a distinctly English character who drinks tea, plays the violin, smokes a pipe, etc..
I get the feeling this new one will be a highstrung coffee adict who wears a fitted business suit and tie, his friend is a retired medic from the 1st Marine Corps and his new instrument is a drum set in his suburban garage..
Although as I don't get CBS or whatever channels its on cus I live over the pond I'm quite happy for you to have this (probably) terrible tv show..
Can Britain have nothing to itself? From what I hear the current Sherlock is dong pretty well in America we don't need an identical one, especially if it happens to be another cheesy crime drama set in America, because just a thought but we might have enough of them by now!
Also there is something a bit wrong about the idea of a Sherlock Holmes set in America, its like making a version of The Wire set in British counsel housing it just feel disrespectful in some explainable way. Also uncreative, and unwanted, and boring.
Don't get me wrong im not bashing on America it just gets on my nipples that their TV networks seem to think their audience cant handle other cultures or something, TV seems to think its audience are so utterly against the idea of anything made overseas they will switch off the telley until all the elements of the program are replaced by something more recognizable that wont make their brain hurt. This is what your entertainment thinks of you, are you not insulted?
Also there is something a bit wrong about the idea of a Sherlock Holmes set in America, its like making a version of The Wire set in British counsel housing it just feel disrespectful in some explainable way. Also uncreative, and unwanted, and boring.
Don't get me wrong im not bashing on America it just gets on my nipples that their TV networks seem to think their audience cant handle other cultures or something, TV seems to think its audience are so utterly against the idea of anything made overseas they will switch off the telley until all the elements of the program are replaced by something more recognizable that wont make their brain hurt. This is what your entertainment thinks of you, are you not insulted?
...I can't help but feel...[optimism]that some of these posts can be more thought out and less prone to an impulsive narrow perspective.[/optimism]
We have Breaking Bad - let them keep their Sherlock. If we do decide to make a modern Sherlock, then let us hope they don't copy obvious Sherlock trademarks. Because if they do, I will stand behind them on seeking legal action on their material based on another man's material.
If it completely *throws* your mind for a loop why someone has the right to at least complain, just look at it from a composer's perspective: If I remake a song from Chopin (Public domain), and I make my own twists and unique theme for that remix, I have the right to sell and copyright it. And I will go after you all the same if you steal that blatantly. It's the same situation here,
except some people stopped at "Complaining about public domain?! D< ", somehow.
We have Breaking Bad - let them keep their Sherlock. If we do decide to make a modern Sherlock, then let us hope they don't copy obvious Sherlock trademarks. Because if they do, I will stand behind them on seeking legal action on their material based on another man's material.
If it completely *throws* your mind for a loop why someone has the right to at least complain, just look at it from a composer's perspective: If I remake a song from Chopin (Public domain), and I make my own twists and unique theme for that remix, I have the right to sell and copyright it. And I will go after you all the same if you steal that blatantly. It's the same situation here,
except some people stopped at "Complaining about public domain?! D< ", somehow.
The first one was all I needed to see to decide I didnt want to watch anymore, I was pretty nonplussed as it went on then when the crosscut chase scene (which would have been more appropriate for a kids show) started I basically lost the will to live. I toughed it out to the end but putting something so childish in the show broke what little immersion i had and killed it for me.Woodsey said:
Fine, believe what you will, personally I'm sick and tired of the 'lowest common denominator' crap the BBC churns out with money stolen from the pockets of License payers.Olrod said:
You really think i need to subject myself to more episodes of that rubbish just to confirm what sort of rubbish it is? I honestly have better things to do with my time, besides the whole point of a Pilot episode is to show viewers what they have to expect from the series, and what i had to expect was dull mediocrity jazzed up with fancy camera crosscuts.
Go watch the Jeremy Brett series and then try to keep a straight face while you tell me Sherlock is a worthy contribution to the the property.